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by **tarek** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:11 pm

coloin wrote:.
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WBA
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You must be joking.

I think you're right with Aston Villa. They really have a good manager.

Man City with the departure of SGE Will transform into the Sean Connery Pronunciation

tarek

by **999_Springs** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:36 pm

coloin wrote:someone devise a scoring system....

Spearman's rank correlation coefficient.
What else IS there that compares two ranked lists...?

by **999_Springs** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:38 pm

Here is my list:

1. Man Utd
2. Arsenal
3. Chelsea
4. Liverpool
5. Portsmouth
6. A Villa
7. Everton
8. Tottenham
9. Blackburn
10. Man City
11. Bolton
12. Middlesbrough
13. West Ham
14. Newcastle
15. Sunderland
16. Wigan
17. Fulham
18. West Brom
19. Stoke
20. Hull

I will make the deadline to submit entries the end of this month, as the table is completely meaningless for the first few weeks.

by **Glyn** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:17 pm

Didn't Kendall come up with a ranking system, not sure if it was Howard though.

by **999_Springs** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:05 pm

This is what we have so far...

Code: Select all: rs = 1-(6 sum(d²)/(20(20²-1))) = 1-(sum(d²)/1330) coloin d² Man U 81 Chelsea 1 Liverpool 36 Arsenal 16 Aston Villa 9 Spurs 64 Everton 25 Man City 100 WBA 64 Newcastle 1 double sum(d²) for coloin because only 10 teams were submitted sum(d²) for coloin = 794 rs = [edited: AAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH! I am NEVER AGAIN going to use Windows's built-in calculator! EVER!] 0.403 999_Springs d² 1. Man Utd 81 2. Arsenal 36 3. Chelsea 4 4. Liverpool 25 5. Portsmouth 225 6. A Villa 16 7. Everton 25 8. Tottenham 36 9. Blackburn 25 10. Man City 64 11. Bolton 64 12. Middlesbrough 36 13. West Ham 36 14. Newcastle 9 15. Sunderland 1 16. Wigan 1 17. Fulham 16 18. West Brom 1 19. Stoke 0 20. Hull 225 sum(d²) for 999_Springs = 926 rs = 0.304

Rats.

Hull are SO annoying. I would have been leading if it weren't for them. But then again, the table is meaningless at this stage of the season.

If we don't get more entries I will have to pinch predictions from newspapers. But then again, evaluating rs is extremely tedious.

by **tarek** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:09 pm

My list:

Code: Select all: Tarek's Premiership 08/09 predictions: 1. Man Utd 2. Arsenal 3. Chelsea 4. A Villa 5. Liverpool 6. Everton 7. Portsmouth 8. Tottenham 9. West Ham 10. Man City 11. Newcastle 12. Blackburn 13. Bolton 14. Middlesbrough 15. Fulham 16. Sunderland 17. Wigan 18. West Brom 19. Stoke 20. Hull

tarek

by **ttt** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:31 am

My list : I like the Gunner…

Code: Select all: ttt's Premiership 08/09 predictions: 1. Arsenal 2. Chelsea 3. Man Utd 4. Liverpool 5. A Villa 6. Tottenham 7. Portsmouth 8. Everton 9. West Ham 10. Man City 11. Newcastle 12. Blackburn 13. Bolton 14. Middlesbrough 15. Fulham 16. Sunderland 17. West Brom 18. Wigan 19. Stoke 20. Hull

ttt

by **coloin** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:39 am

My full list - come on West Brom !

Code: Select all: Man U Chelsea Liverpool Arsenal Aston Villa Spurs Everton Man City WBA Newcastle Portsmouth Middlesbourough West Ham Sunderland Hull Bolton Blackburn Stoke City Fulham Wigan

C

by **Bigtone53** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:31 pm

Come on. Reading!

by **999_Springs** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:14 pm

Bigtone53 wrote:Come on. Reading!

Which one?
This one...

The Coca-Cola Football League Championship wrote:1 Coventry
2 Preston
3 Birmingham
4 Wolverhampton
5 Reading
6 Cardiff
7 Bristol City
8 Doncaster
9 Watford
10 Ipswich
11 Sheff Utd
12 Charlton
13 Sheff Wed
14 Swansea
15 QPR
16 Blackpool
17 Derby
18 Plymouth
19 Norwich
20 Nottm Forest
21 Crystal Palace
22 Barnsley
23 Southampton
24 Burnley

Or this one?

FA Cup results Extra Preliminary Round 2008-09 wrote:Erith & Belvedere FC 4 - 2 Lancing FC
Pickering Town FC 4 - 1 Liversedge FC
Bishop Auckland FC 3 - 2 Darlington Railway Athletic FC
Ramsbottom United FC 2 - 0 Hallam FC
Runcorn Linnets FC 3 - 2 Rossington Main FC
Kentish Town FC 1 - 1 Wellingborough Town FC
Brimsdown Rovers FC 0 - 2 Hatfield Town FC
Sidley United FC 4 - 2 Farnham Town FC
Lingfield FC 0 - 3 Arundel FC
Glasshoughton Welfare FC 2 - 2 Billingham Synthonia FC
Romford FC 3 - 0 Biggleswade Town FC
Kingsbury London Tigers FC 1 - 0 Eton Manor FC
Bedlington Terriers FC 1 - 0 Chester-Le-Street Town FC
Consett FC 5 - 1 Pontefract Collieries FC
South Shields FC 5 - 1 Hebburn Town FC
Horden CW FC 1 - 3 Sunderland Nissan FC
Northallerton Town FC 1 - 3 Whitley Bay FC
Crook Town FC 6 - 1 North Shields FC
West Auckland Town FC 2 - 1 Hall Road Rangers FC
Jarrow Roofing Boldon CA FC 2 - 1 Spennymoor Town FC
Team Northumbria FC 4 - 1 Esh Winning FC
West Allotment Celtic FC 2 - 1 Sunderland RCA FC
Shildon FC 3 - 0 Leeds Carnegie FC
Armthorpe Welfare FC 5 - 0 Yorkshire Amateur FC
Marske United FC 0 - 1 Whickham FC
Billingham Town FC 2 - 2 Brandon United FC
Morpeth Town FC P - P Ryton FC
Washington FC 0 - 0 Stokesley SC FC
Seaham Red Star FC 1 - 3 Selby Town FC
Bridlington Town FC 3 - 2 Guisborough Town FC
Norton & Stockton Ancients FC 0 - 1 Newcastle Benfield FC
Ashington FC 1 - 0 Thackley FC
Thornaby FC 0 - 3 Tow Law Town FC
Dunston Federation FC 4 - 0 Tadcaster Albion FC
Cheadle Town FC 1 - 2 Newcastle Town FC
Leek CSOB FC 1 - 4 AFC Fylde
Maltby Main FC 3 - 4 Bottesford Town FC
Dinnington Town FC 1 - 2 Atherton LR FC
Parkgate FC 1 - 2 Norton United FC
Darwen FC 4 - 7 Penrith AFC
Holker Old Boys FC 2 - 2 St Helens Town FC
Formby FC 3 - 1 AFC Emley
Winsford United FC 3 - 3 Nostell MW FC
Bootle FC 5 - 1 Eccleshall FC
Abbey Hey FC 1 - 1 Flixton FC
Barton Town Old Boys FC 1 - 3 Winterton Rangers FC
Maine Road FC 2 - 1 Chadderton FC
Brodsworth MW FC 2 - 1 Ashton Town AFC
Oldham Town FC 2 - 0 Ashton Athletic FC
Congleton Town FC 2 - 2 AFC Blackpool
Alsager Town FC 0 - 1 Padiham FC
Colne FC 4 - 1 Daisy Hill FC
Atherton Collieries FC 1 - 2 Bacup Borough FC
Squires Gate FC 3 - 1 Biddulph Victoria FC
AFC Wulfrunians 1 - 1 Pilkington XXX FC
Arnold Town FC 1 - 2 Long Eaton United FC
Tipton Town FC 2 - 0 Teversal FC
Highgate United FC WO Brierley Hill & Withymoor FC
Racing Club Warwick FC 6 - 2 Cadbury Athletic FC
Westfields FC 7 - 1 Gedling MW FC
Stratford Town FC 2 - 0 Pershore Town FC
Shirebrook Town FC 3 - 2 Causeway United FC
Gedling Town FC WO Stapenhill FC
New Mills FC 1 - 2 Friar Lane & Epworth FC
Borrowash Victoria FC 2 - 4 Market Drayton Town FC
Coventry Sphinx FC 1 - 2 Barwell FC
Tividale FC 1 - 3 Coleshill Town FC
Wellington FC 1 - 4 Mickleover Sports FC
Dunkirk FC 1 - 4 Alvechurch FC
Heather St Johns FC 0 - 3 Cradley Town FC
Ledbury Town FC 2 - 3 Bromyard Town FC
Staveley MW FC 3 - 1 Bridgnorth Town FC
Goodrich FC 1 - 1 Meir KA FC
Pegasus Juniors FC 1 - 4 Glossop North End FC
Rocester FC 0 - 1 Nuneaton Griff FC
Southam United FC 3 - 1 Boldmere St Michaels FC
Hinckley Downes FC 4 - 2 Shawbury United FC
Heath Hayes FC 1 - 3 Shifnal Town FC
Oadby Town FC 0 - 3 Oldbury United FC
Ellesmere Rangers FC 4 - 0 Dudley Sports FC
Dudley Town FC 1 - 2 Rainworth MW FC
Brocton FC 1 - 1 Lye Town FC
Gornal Athletic FC 3 - 1 Pelsall Villa FC
GSA Sports FC 1 - 3 Coalville Town FC
Stone Dominoes FC 3 - 2 Walsall Wood FC
Bolehall Swifts FC 1 - 3 Studley FC
Castle Vale FC 0 - 2 Barrow Town FC
Yaxley FC 4 - 3 Lincoln Moorlands Railway FC
Sleaford Town FC 3 - 2 Ely City FC
Haverhill Rovers FC 2 - 2 March Town United FC
Stowmarket Town FC 2 - 2 Ipswich Wanderers FC
St Neots Town FC 7 - 1 Holbeach United FC
Mildenhall Town FC 8 - 0 Felixstowe & Walton United FC
Gorleston FC 3 - 5 Fakenham Town FC
Woodbridge Town FC 1 - 0 Newmarket Town FC
Diss Town FC 1 - 2 Walsham Le Willows FC
Hadleigh United FC 0 - 1 Great Yarmouth Town FC
Whitton United FC 1 - 1 Cornard United FC
Leiston FC 2 - 1 Blackstones FC
Long Melford FC 2 - 5 Boston Town FC
Debenham LC FC 0 - 1 Dereham Town FC
Lowestoft Town FC 2 - 1 St Ives Town FC
Wisbech Town FC 1 - 1 Norwich United FC
Deeping Rangers FC 3 - 0 Bourne Town FC
Wroxham FC 1 - 0 Kirkley & Pakefield FC
Raunds Town FC 2 - 2 Harwich & Parkeston FC
FC Clacton 2 - 0 St Margaretsbury FC
Rothwell Corinthians FC 2 - 3 Langford FC
Erith Town FC 7 - 1 Potton United FC
Clapton FC 0 - 3 Stewarts & Lloyds FC
Cockfosters FC 0 - 1 Ampthill Town FC
Tring Athletic FC 5 - 3 Berkhamsted Town FC
Desborough Town FC 4 - 4 Saffron Walden Town FC
Southend Manor FC 2 - 1 AFC Kempston Rovers
North Greenford United FC 0 - 1 Tiptree United FC
Tokyngton Manor FC 2 - 3 Biggleswade United FC
Cogenhoe United FC 0 - 1 Northampton Spencer FC
Stotfold FC 3 - 1 Colney Heath FC
Long Buckby FC 0 - 2 Broxbourne Borough V&E FC
Hanwell Town FC 3 - 2 Wootton Blue Cross FC
London Colney FC 1 - 1 Sporting Bengal United FC
Stanway Rovers FC 4 - 0 Welwyn Garden City FC
Halstead Town FC 4 - 1 London APSA FC
Haringey Borough FC 1 - 3 Bedfont FC
Wivenhoe Town FC 1 - 4 Barkingside FC
Hullbridge Sports FC 2 - 1 Leverstock Green FC
Oxhey Jets FC 5 - 0 Hertford Town FC
Hoddesdon Town FC 2 - 3 Stansted FC
Wembley FC 1 - 1 Royston Town FC
Bedfont Green FC 4 - 0 Barking FC
Bowers & Pitsea FC 1 - 2 Harefield United FC
Daventry United FC 0 - 0 Burnham Ramblers FC
Selsey FC 1 - 0 Egham Town FC
Three Bridges FC 2 - 3 VCD Athletic FC
Mile Oak FC 3 - 0 Bookham FC
Hailsham Town FC 1 - 0 Worthing United FC
Ash United FC 0 - 4 Sevenoaks Town FC
Westfield FC 0 - 3 East Preston FC
Banstead Athletic FC 0 - 2 Colliers Wood United FC
Hassocks FC 0 - 1 Shoreham FC
Slade Green FC 1 - 1 Tunbridge Wells FC
Ringmer FC 4 - 3 AET Rye United FC
Pagham FC 1 - 5 Hythe Town FC
Dorking FC 2 - 1 Chessington & Hook United FC
Littlehampton Town FC 2 - 5 Peacehaven & Telscombe FC
Whitehawk FC 0 - 0 Croydon FC
Eastbourne United FC 2 - 4 Epsom & Ewell FC
Crawley Down FC 2 - 2 Chichester City United FC
Cobham FC 1 - 1 Southwick FC
Wick FC 0 - 3 Molesey FC
Wealden FC 3 - 4 East Grinstead Town FC
Frimley Green FC 1 - 0 Guildford City FC
Faversham Town FC 0 - 2 Horsham YMCA FC
Redhill FC 1 - 2 Herne Bay FC
Camberley Town FC 1 - 1 Lordswood FC
Chertsey Town FC 2 - 2 Deal Town FC
Horley Town FC 2 - 2 Raynes Park Vale FC
Bournemouth FC 2 - 1 Fareham Town FC
New Milton Town 5 - 0 Amesbury Town FC
Westbury United FC 0 - 0 Hamble ASSC FC
Brockenhurst FC 2 - 1 Reading Town FC
Aylesbury Vale FC 4 - 2 AET Highworth Town FC
Kidlington FC 4 - 1 Sandhurst Town FC
Christchurch FC 2 - 1 Melksham Town FC
Witney United FC 2 - 0 Buckingham Town FC
Milton United FC 1 - 2 Lymington Town FC
Hartley Wintney FC 3 - 1 Cove FC
VT FC 0 - 2 Newport Pagnell Town FC
Hungerford Town FC 0 - 0 Marlow United FC
Devizes Town FC 2 - 2 Calne Town FC
Downton FC 2 - 0 Abingdon Town FC
Chalfont St Peter FC 4 - 3 Ardley United FC
Bicester Town FC 1 - 0 Bristol Manor Farm FC
Thame United FC 0 - 0 Bitton AFC
Bemerton Heath Harlequins FC 1 - 4 Almondsbury Town FC
Corsham Town FC 0 - 2 Moneyfields FC
Shortwood United FC 5 - 0 Henley Town FC
Harrow Hill FC 4 - 1 Alresford Town FC
Cowes Sports FC 4 - 3 Alton Town FC
Ringwood Town FC 1 - 0 Hallen FC
Carterton FC 2 - 1 Newport (IW) FC
Flackwell Heath FC 1 - 1 Wootton Bassett Town FC
Fairford Town FC 4 - 1 Shrivenham FC
Chard Town FC 2 - 2 Street FC
Elmore FC 0 - 4 Bodmin Town FC
Willand Rovers FC 6 - 0 Wadebridge Town FC
Welton Rovers FC 0 - 1 Poole Town FC
Launceston FC 3 - 0 Sherborne Town FC
Liskeard Athletic FC 0 - 5 Larkhall Athletic FC
Ilfracombe Town FC 1 - 4 Tavistock FC
Bideford FC 4 - 2 Keynsham Town FC
Shaftesbury FC 2 - 2 Falmouth Town AFC
Odd Down FC 2 - 1 Bishop Sutton FC
Gillingham Town FC 2 - 2 Saltash United FC
Radstock Town FC 1 - 2 Brislington FC
Bridport FC 2 - 1 Barnstaple Town FC
Dawlish Town FC 0 - 0 Wimborne Town FC
Minehead FC 0 - 3 Clevedon United FC
St Blazey FC 0 - 2 Hamworthy United FC
Frome Town FC 3 - 1 Shepton Mallet AFC FC
Silsden AFC 4 - 1 Eccleshill United FC
Thetford Town FC 0 - 1 Needham Market FC
Wantage Town FC 1 - 3 Brading Town FC

by **999_Springs** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:05 pm

After the second Saturday of the season, the table has gone completely topsy-turvy with all these shock results, to such an extent that all of the rss are in danger of slipping into negative territory, implying that their own table is more accurate reversed!
(coloin should be grateful that Stoke won 3-2 instead of 4-2...)

Code: Select all: rank name d² rs 1st tarek 1218 0.084 2nd ttt 1226 0.078 3rd 999_Springs 1262 0.051 4th coloin 1316 0.011

These astonishingly low values of rs indicate that there is basically no correlation between any of the posted tables and the real table.

I don't understand why everyone puts Tottenham at about 6th/7th/8th when they did not enter the top half of the table a single time last season.

Anyone else willing to submit their table?

150th post!

by **tarek** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:28 am

Yesterday results were shocking & the Premiership table is even more shocking. I would leave it until mid-season for correlations.

tarek

by **Glyn** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:26 pm

Liverpool nearly had the opportunity to focus on the Premiership. Rafael Benitez must have been having kittens, 27th minutes of ET.

by **mikejapan** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:48 am

If you're all interested in footy, why don't you do the Guardian's Pick the Score competition? You could even start a friends' league and chat to each other on your own forum.

http://guardian.pickthescore.co.uk/

by **tarek** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:42 am

I'm glad that the Champions league is back on the BBC. I watched it yesterday on their Streaming service. Arsenal were just fantastic.

tarek

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