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Postby champagne » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:16 am

Pat wrote:[list]
(9d0h) 178 puzzles -122 trumped = 56 ratings


the furious trumping
is perhaps partly due to the bonus for "rarities",
but is mostly due to the difficulty of finding any "diamonds" in this particular clue-pattern

Hi apt,

I am to young in that game to comment on the "best strategy". What is for sure is that without the bonus for rarity, it is dangerous to open a new ER to early.

Even with the bonus rarity, if the pattern is supposed to generate Diamonds, the rarity strategy can pay only at the start of the game (say as long as the bonus for a trumped rarity is higher that the ordinal of the submission), preferably in low ER's. But still, it can push to nicer fights.

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Postby g.r.emlin » Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:01 pm

::: game 0094 start LIGHTNING at 2009-11-08+07:00:00-0000 :::
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candidate patterns (via private message to g.r.emlin)

   1 coloin           16 JPF              87 g.r.emlin

past patterns

   1 claudiarabia      1 pseudocoup        3 g.r.emlin        11 Pat              17 JPF
   1 draco             1 ravel             9 gsf              14 coloin           19 tarek
   1 Eioru             1 wintder          10 m_b_metcalf      16 Mauricio         19 TTHsieh
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Postby g.r.emlin » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:00 am

::: game 0094 open LIGHTNING 2009-11-08+07:00:10-0000 dealer coloin 21 clues pi rotational (180 degrees) symmetry :::
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. . . . . . 7 . 4
. 1 . . . 2 . 3 .
. . 2 . 8 . . . .
. . . 2 . . . 6 .
. . 8 . 5 . 1 . .
. 6 . . . 7 . . .
. . . . 9 . 8 . .
. 2 . 4 . . . 7 .
5 . 4 . . . . . .  ED=1.5/1.2/1.2
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Postby m_b_metcalf » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:12 am

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 . . . . . . 1 . 2
 . 1 . . . 3 . 4 .
 . . 5 . 6 . . . .
 . . . 4 . . . 1 .
 . . 6 . 7 . 8 . .
 . 7 . . . 9 . . .
 . . . . 2 . 6 . .
 . 4 . 5 . . . 9 .
 8 . 7 . . . . . .  ED=3.8/3.8/3.8

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Postby coloin » Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:55 pm

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+---+---+---+
|...|...|4.8|
|.1.|..2|.6.|
|..6|.5.|...|
+---+---+---+
|...|8..|.1.|
|..7|.9.|5..|
|.6.|..3|...|
+---+---+---+
|...|.4.|7..|
|.3.|1..|.2.|
|9.5|...|...|
+---+---+---+ ED=9.3/6.7/2.6


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Postby m_b_metcalf » Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:15 pm

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 . . . . . . 1 . 2
 . 3 . . . 4 . 5 .
 . . 6 . 7 . . . .
 . . . 8 . . . 3 .
 . . 7 . 1 . 9 . .
 . 5 . . . 9 . . .
 . . . . 2 . 6 . .
 . 4 . 5 . . . 8 .
 9 . 1 . . . . . .   ED=9.3/9.3/2.6

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Postby coloin » Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:29 pm

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+---+---+---+
|...|...|5.7|
|.1.|..2|.3.|
|..5|.6.|...|
+---+---+---+
|...|3..|.8.|
|..6|.9.|4..|
|.5.|..8|...|
+---+---+---+
|...|.4.|8..|
|.3.|1..|.2.|
|7.9|...|...|
+---+---+---+ ED=9.0/9.0/2.6

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Postby m_b_metcalf » Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:36 pm

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 . . . . . . 1 . 2
 . 2 . . . 3 . 4 .
 . . 5 . 6 . . . .
 . . . 4 . . . 1 .
 . . 6 . 7 . 8 . .
 . 7 . . . 9 . . .
 . . . . 3 . 6 . .
 . 4 . 5 . . . 9 .
 1 . 8 . . . . . .   ED=9.0/9.0/3.8

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Postby gsf » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:03 pm

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. . . . . . 8 . 9
. 4 . . . 2 . 3 .
. . 5 . 9 . . . .
. . . 1 . . . 6 .
. . 8 . 4 . 5 . .
. 9 . . . 3 . . .
. . . . 8 . 7 . .
. 2 . 5 . . . 1 .
6 . 3 . . . . . .  ED=6.7/6.7/6.7
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Postby Pat » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:30 pm

    is it the 9.3 ratings which are slowing down g.r.emlin ?
      the Results only show the first 2 puzzles,
      i.e. 95 minutes late---
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Postby g.r.emlin » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:37 pm

::: rarity :::
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2009-11-08+12:55:00-0000 9.3/6.7/2.6 coloin rare ED not seen before
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Postby coloin » Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:17 pm

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+---+---+---+
|...|...|4.6|
|.1.|..9|.3.|
|..3|.7.|...|
+---+---+---+
|...|9..|.1.|
|..7|.5.|8..|
|.3.|..2|...|
+---+---+---+
|...|.8.|5..|
|.9.|6..|.2.|
|5.4|...|...|
+---+---+---+ ED=9.7/1.2/1.2
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Postby gsf » Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:20 pm

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. . . . . . 9 . 1
. 1 . . . 2 . 3 .
. . 5 . 8 . . . .
. . . 7 . . . 9 .
. . 4 . 6 . 5 . .
. 9 . . . 3 . . .
. . . . 5 . 7 . .
. 3 . 4 . . . 1 .
2 . 1 . . . . . .  ED=2.8/2.8/2.8
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Postby m_b_metcalf » Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:30 pm

Code: Select all
 . . . . . . 1 . 2
 . 3 . . . 4 . 5 .
 . . 6 . 7 . . . .
 . . . 5 . . . 3 .
 . . 1 . 6 . 8 . .
 . 7 . . . 8 . . .
 . . . . 3 . 6 . .
 . 5 . 9 . . . 7 .
 2 . 8 . . . . . .   ED=10.1/10.1/2.6

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Postby g.r.emlin » Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:34 pm

::: game 0094 status LIGHTNING 2009-11-08+17:34:02-0000 :::
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game 0094 2009-11-08+07:00:00-0000 LIGHTNING duration 10h30m dealer coloin page 353 (open) 3 players
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    1.5/1.2/1.2 coloin         3.8/3.8/3.8 m_b_metcalf    9.0/9.0/3.8 m_b_metcalf    9.7/1.2/1.2 coloin
    2.8/2.8/2.8 gsf            6.7/6.7/6.7 gsf            9.3/9.3/2.6 m_b_metcalf  10.1/10.1/2.6 m_b_metcalf
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    open ratings : 1.2 1.7 2.0 2.3 2.5 2.6 3.0 3.2 3.4 3.6 4.0 4.2 4.4-5.2 5.4 5.6-6.2 6.5 6.6 6.8-8.9 9.1 9.2 9.4-9.6 9.8-10.0 10.2-11.4

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
          coloin        2     19     1h43m  rare-0,dealer
             gsf        2     90    14m59s  diamond*2
     m_b_metcalf        4    323     1h12m  rare-2,diamond,pearl*3,highest-rating=36,last-entry=18
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               3        8    432            rare-0,rare-2,diamond*3,pearl*3
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