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[g.r.emlin]

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2009-10-31+19:29:00-0000 8.2/8.2/7.6 gsf rare ED not seen before


[gsf]

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. 7 . . . . . 2 .
3 . 4 . . . 5 . 1
. 5 . 3 . 6 . 4 .
. . 7 . 6 . 9 . .
. . . 7 . 9 . . .
. . 1 . 8 . 2 . .
. 4 . 9 . 5 . 8 .
2 . 8 . . . 4 . 5
. 1 . . . . . 3 .  ED=8.9/8.9/8.3

[champagne]

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.9.....8.
7.6...5.9
.3.2.9.1.
..3.6.2..
...5.8...
..5.3.7..
.5.3.4.6.
3.9...1.4
.6.....7.  ED=6.5/2.6/2.6

[tarek]

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Hello everyone ...

Just to remind you of posting - if possible -what you generate with an ER=5.2 (Jellyfish) on the Pure Jellyfish Collection thread. What you post is easily gleaned from the forums .... However, the ones that you generate but don't post are the ones that I'm interested in.

The relative rarity of ER=5.2 compared to to ER=3.8 (Swordfish) is why I'm not directly asking for you to do the same with the Pure Swordfish Collection thread ... But obviously you are most welcome to post puzzles on that thread as well.

tarek

[champagne]

::: comment :::

::: comment :::
Just to remind you of posting - if possible -what you generate with an ER=5.2 (Jellyfish) on the Pure Jellyfish Collection thread. What you post is easily gleaned from the forums .... However, the ones that you generate but don't post are the ones that I'm interested in.

The relative rarity of ER=5.2 compared to to ER=3.8 (Swordfish) is why I'm not directly asking for you to do the same with the Pure Swordfish Collection thread ... But obviously you are most welcome to post puzzles on that thread as well.

tarek

Hi tarek,

Good to know that.

As far as I am concerned, I only found in that game the triplet 5.2 2.6 2.6 and I keep only one puzzle per triplet found.

So I have nothing to add, but I'll check in the next batches (likely not so many, we are close to the end)

champagne

EDIT: if you are interested for any other reason, I can send you via PM the entire collection of triplets I got in the game

[JPF]

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 . 1 . | . . . | . 2 .
 3 . 4 | . . . | 5 . 6
 . 2 . | 7 . 3 | . 8 .
-------+-------+-------
 . . 1 | . 9 . | 6 . .
 . . . | 8 . 7 | . . .
 . . 5 | . 2 . | 7 . .
-------+-------+-------
 . 6 . | 9 . 1 | . 5 .
 1 . 8 | . . . | 4 . 9
 . 5 . | . . . | . 6 .       ED=3.8/3.2/2.6



JPF

[champagne]

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.9.....8.
7.6...5.9
.3.5.9.6.
..2.6.8..
...4.1...
..9.8.4..
.5.3.7.1.
6.7...3.8
.2.....4.  ED=5.8/2.6/2.6

[g.r.emlin]

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2009-11-02+06:31:00-0000 5.8/2.6/2.6 champagne rare ED seen 2 times before


[JPF]

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 . 1 . | . . . | . 2 .
 2 . 3 | . . . | 4 . 5
 . 6 . | 2 . 7 | . 3 .
-------+-------+-------
 . . 4 | . 7 . | 5 . .
 . . . | 6 . 8 | . . .
 . . 1 | . 9 . | 7 . .
-------+-------+-------
 . 9 . | 8 . 3 | . 4 .
 3 . 6 | . . . | 8 . 1
 . 4 . | . . . | . 5 .       ED=8.4/8.4/7.8



JPF

[champagne]

:::comment:::

A question to gsf.

Last entry is supposed to receive a bonus of

5% of the total score
the ordinal of the entry

which is now more or less 800 points.

this seems to affect the count, but what appears in the table is

last entry=550

can you comment


champagne

[champagne]

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.9.....8.
7.6...5.4
.3.2.4.6.
..2.9.6..
...5.6...
..7.2.8..
.4.1.5.9.
1.9...3.8
.7.....1.  ED=7.8/7.8/7.2

[g.r.emlin]

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2009-11-02+14:04:00-0000 7.8/7.8/7.2 champagne rare ED seen 2 times before


[gsf]

:::comment:::

A question to gsf.

Last entry is supposed to receive a bonus of

5% of the total score
the ordinal of the entry

which is now more or less 800 points.

this seems to affect the count, but what appears in the table is

last entry=550

can you comment

the % bonuses are computed on the total raw score (without any % bonuses) at time of submission
the current score is

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    open ratings : 4.8 4.9 5.1 5.4 6.0 6.1 9.5-11.4

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
       ---------  -------  -----  --------  -----
             Pat        1     35     4h17m  rare-0,dealer
             JPF       17   3116    57m55s  rare-0*10,rare-1*4,rare-2*4,diamond,pearl*11
             gsf       18   3220    47m04s  rare-0*12,rare-1*7,rare-2*3,diamond*3,pearl*9
       champagne       20   6150    58m40s  rare-0*18,rare-1*9,rare-2*4,diamond*3,pearl*9,highest-rating=787,last-entry=558
       ---------  -------  -----            -----
               4       56  12521            rare-0*41,rare-1*20,rare-2*11,diamond*7,pearl*29


so the current last entry % bonus is

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12521 - ( 787 + 558 ) ) * 0.05 = 558.8

the highest entry bonus is more elusive because you need the total raw score at the time the highest was entered
that can be computed by

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787 / 0.10 = 7870

[champagne]

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Hi gsf,

I think I got your point, but it does not explain the moves in positions.

May be the best example can be shown out of the last shot of jpf, killing one of your positions.

Status before

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      submitter  entries  score  response  notes
       ---------  -------  -----  --------  -----
             Pat        1     35     4h17m  rare-0,dealer
             JPF       17   3014    54m27s  rare-0*10,rare-1*4,rare-2*4,diamond,pearl*11
             gsf       19   3437    47m04s  rare-0*12,rare-1*7,rare-2*3,diamond*3,pearl*10
       champagne       19   5817    56m16s  rare-0*18,rare-1*9,rare-2*3,diamond*3,pearl*8,highest-rating=787,last-entry=548
       ---------  -------  -----            -----
               4       56  12303            rare-0*41,rare-1*20,rare-2*10,diamond*7,pearl*29

Status after

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       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
       ---------  -------  -----  --------  -----
             Pat        1     35     4h17m  rare-0,dealer
             gsf       18   3220    47m04s  rare-0*12,rare-1*7,rare-2*3,diamond*3,pearl*9
             JPF       18   3986    57m55s  rare-0*10,rare-1*4,rare-2*4,diamond,pearl*12,last-entry=550
       champagne       19   5102    56m16s  rare-0*18,rare-1*9,rare-2*3,diamond*3,pearl*8,highest-rating=787
       ---------  -------  -----            -----
               4       56  12343            rare-0*41,rare-1*20,rare-2*10,diamond*7,pearl*29

In that change, I only lost the "last entry" score
The loss is about 720 points (I think some "rarity" was added, not included in my first table).
Anyway far above the last entry bonus shown of 548 points.



I got back the total later, but with a new position, so I prefer to give this very simple example.

Nothing vital, but I would like to understand

champagne

[m_b_metcalf]

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 . 5 . 7 . 6 . 1 .
 . . 7 . 4 . 8 . .
 . . . 5 . 7 . . .
 . . 3 . 9 . 2 . .
 . 2 . 8 . 9 . 3 .
 8 . 5 . . . 9 . 2
 . 3 . . . . . 8 .   ED=8.0/7.3/2.6

Regards,

Mike Metcalf