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[m_b_metcalf]

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Regards,

Mike Metcalf

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0049 status 2008-09-09+05:54:12-0000 :::

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game 0049 2008-09-07+06:04:00-0000 duration 1d23h dealer Pat pages 20-25 (open) 5 players
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    1.5/1.2/1.2 Pat            4.0/1.7/1.7 JPF            6.5/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.6/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf
    1.7/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    4.2/2.6/2.6 JPF            6.6/2.6/2.6 JPF            8.2/2.6/2.6 JPF
    2.0/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    4.4/1.7/1.7 JPF            6.7/2.3/2.3 JPF            8.3/2.6/2.6 JPF
    2.3/1.2/1.2 Pat            4.5/2.6/2.6 gsf            6.8/1.2/1.2 JPF            8.4/2.6/2.6 JPF
    2.5/1.2/1.2 Pat            4.6/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    6.9/1.7/1.7 JPF            8.5/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf
    2.6/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    4.7/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.0/2.3/2.3 m_b_metcalf    8.6/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf
    2.8/2.6/2.6 gsf            5.6/2.6/2.6 gsf            7.1/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    8.8/2.6/2.6 JPF
    3.0/2.6/2.6 JPF            5.7/2.6/2.6 gsf            7.2/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    8.9/2.6/2.6 JPF
    3.2/1.2/1.2 JPF            5.8/1.2/1.2 Pat            7.3/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    9.0/2.6/2.6 JPF
    3.4/2.6/2.6 JPF            5.9/2.6/2.6 gsf            7.4/2.6/2.6 JPF            9.1/1.2/1.2 JPF
    3.6/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    6.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.5/2.6/2.6 JPF
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 1.2 3.8 4.8 5.0-5.2 5.4 6.0 6.1 7.7-8.1 8.7 9.2-10.7

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
           tarek        0      0    32m59s
             Pat        4      0    53m33s  dealer
             gsf        5    258     2h12m
     m_b_metcalf       15    547    35m22s  diamond,last-entry
             JPF       19    657    58m33s  highest-rating
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               5       43   1462            diamond


[gsf]

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[m_b_metcalf]

::: comment :::

slip-up deleted

[g.r.emlin]

::: adjustment 2008-09-09+13:59:00-0000 m_b_metcalf bad-pattern -50 :::

[Pat]

and i was so happy to see a new rating---

anyway, once g.r.emlin saw it, the penalty is there

the belated editing
may substitute one penalty for another
(penalty for an edited post)

[m_b_metcalf]

::: comment :::

I have received notification of a PM but there is no new message in my Inbox. Could the sender please try again?

Thanks,

Mike Metcalf

P.S. So was I. Mixed up the current file with a test one.

[Pat]

the PM was from me,
trying to get you to quickly delete that 3.8 before the penalty

once g.r.emlin saw it,
it was too late,
so i cancelled the PM

[m_b_metcalf]

::: comment :::

the PM was from me,
trying to get you to quickly delete that 3.8 before the penalty

once g.r.emlin saw it,
it was too late,
so i cancelled the PM

That's very kind of you, trying to save me from my own foolishness.

Mike Metcalf

[Pat]

the odd thing is,
g.r.emlin has now edited the penalty

leaving me really confused

[m_b_metcalf]

::: status :::

[gsf]

::: comment :::

the odd thing is,
g.r.emlin has now edited the penalty

leaving me really confused

live debugging
the referee coding is interesting because the last page continually changes until it spills over to the next page
once it fills up the referee doesn't refresh
but until then it does refresh, so some edits may go undetected
the change to ::: adjustment ::: makes it easier for the referee to detect
edits that attempt to circumvent adjustments

the only workaround for a bad entry is to delete/edit the post before the referee notices
the referee wakeup cycle is 5 min
but unlucky mistakes could happen 4m59s into the cycle

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0049 status 2008-09-09+15:53:04-0000 :::

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game 0049 2008-09-07+06:07:00-0000 duration 2d06h dealer Pat pages 20-25 (open) 5 players
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    1.5/1.2/1.2 Pat            4.0/1.7/1.7 JPF            6.5/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.6/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf
    1.7/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    4.2/2.6/2.6 JPF            6.6/2.6/2.6 JPF            8.2/2.6/2.6 JPF
    2.0/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    4.4/1.7/1.7 JPF            6.7/2.3/2.3 JPF            8.3/2.6/2.6 JPF
    2.3/1.2/1.2 Pat            4.5/2.6/2.6 gsf            6.8/1.2/1.2 JPF            8.4/2.6/2.6 JPF
    2.5/1.2/1.2 Pat            4.6/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    6.9/1.7/1.7 JPF            8.5/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf
    2.6/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    4.7/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.0/2.3/2.3 m_b_metcalf    8.6/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf
    2.8/2.6/2.6 gsf            5.6/2.6/2.6 gsf            7.1/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    8.8/2.6/2.6 JPF
    3.0/2.6/2.6 JPF            5.7/2.6/2.6 gsf            7.2/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    8.9/2.6/2.6 JPF
    3.2/1.2/1.2 JPF            5.8/1.2/1.2 Pat            7.3/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    9.0/2.6/2.6 JPF
    3.4/2.6/2.6 JPF            5.9/2.6/2.6 gsf            7.4/2.6/2.6 JPF            9.1/2.6/2.6 gsf
    3.6/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    6.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.5/2.6/2.6 JPF
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 1.2 3.8 4.8 5.0-5.2 5.4 6.0 6.1 7.7-8.1 8.7 9.2-10.7

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
           tarek        0      0    32m59s
             Pat        4      0    53m33s  dealer
     m_b_metcalf       15    389    35m14s  diamond,bad-pattern,edited
             gsf        6    439     3h12m  highest-rating,last-entry
             JPF       18    649    58m33s
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               5       43   1477            diamond


[m_b_metcalf]

::: comment :::

the only workaround for a bad entry is to delete/edit the post before the referee notices
the referee wakeup cycle is 5 min
but unlucky mistakes could happen 4m59s into the cycle

But I now have a double penalty, that doesn't seem right. I just wanted to delete the entry to avoid further confusion!.

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

[gsf]

::: comment :::

the only workaround for a bad entry is to delete/edit the post before the referee notices
the referee wakeup cycle is 5 min
but unlucky mistakes could happen 4m59s into the cycle

But I now have a double penalty, that doesn't seem right. I just wanted to delete the entry to avoid further confusion!.

its a tough call because there's confusion no matter what is done with bad posts
its probably best to leave them alone so that the posts and adjustments can be paired off
the extra edited adjustment should encourage that