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[champagne]

BTW the game is still open !!!!!

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0169 idle 2012-03-14+15:24:07-0000 -- with no further entries the game will close at 2012-03-14+18:00:00-0000 :::

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game 0169 2012-03-10+10:00:00-0000 duration 1d00h dealer m_b_metcalf pages 1264-1268 (open) 5 players
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    1.5/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    8.4/7.2/3.4 joel64         9.4/9.4/3.4 Patrice       10.5/1.2/1.2 champagne
    2.3/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    8.8/1.2/1.2 champagne      9.5/9.5/3.4 champagne    10.6/10.6/3.4 champagne
    4.4/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    9.0/9.0/3.4 joel64         9.6/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf  10.7/10.7/3.4 Patrice
    6.6/1.2/1.2 Patrice        9.1/9.1/3.4 champagne      9.8/1.2/1.2 Patrice      10.8/10.8/3.4 champagne
    7.1/1.2/1.2 champagne      9.2/9.2/3.4 champagne     10.3/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf  11.6/11.6/3.4 champagne
    8.3/1.2/1.2 Patrice        9.3/9.3/3.4 Patrice       10.4/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf  11.8/11.8/3.4 gsf
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    rare ratings : 11.6 11.8

    open ratings : 1.2 1.7 2.0 2.5 2.6 2.8 3.0 3.2 3.4 3.6 3.8 4.0 4.2 4.5-5.2 5.4 5.6-6.2 6.5 6.7-7.0 7.2-8.2 8.5-8.7 8.9 9.7 9.9-10.2 10.9-11.4

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
     m_b_metcalf        6     61    20m47s  dealer
             gsf        1    165     2h13m  rare-0,pearl,highest-rating=25
          joel64        2    184     2h08m  rare-1,pearl
         Patrice        6    315     1h01m  pearl*3,last-entry=59
       champagne        9    555     1h07m  rare-0,rare-2,pearl*6,dup-puzzle-tie
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               5       24   1280            rare-0*2,rare-1,rare-2,pearl*11


[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0169 closed (idle for 3d07h) -- preliminary results :::

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game 0169 2012-03-10+10:00:00-0000 duration 1d00h dealer m_b_metcalf pages 1264-1269 (final) 5 players
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    1.5/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    8.4/7.2/3.4 joel64         9.4/9.4/3.4 Patrice       10.5/1.2/1.2 champagne
    2.3/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    8.8/1.2/1.2 champagne      9.5/9.5/3.4 champagne    10.6/10.6/3.4 champagne
    4.4/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    9.0/9.0/3.4 joel64         9.6/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf  10.7/10.7/3.4 Patrice
    6.6/1.2/1.2 Patrice        9.1/9.1/3.4 champagne      9.8/1.2/1.2 Patrice      10.8/10.8/3.4 champagne
    7.1/1.2/1.2 champagne      9.2/9.2/3.4 champagne     10.3/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf  11.6/11.6/3.4 champagne
    8.3/1.2/1.2 Patrice        9.3/9.3/3.4 Patrice       10.4/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf  11.8/11.8/3.4 gsf
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    rare ratings : 11.6 11.8

    open ratings : 1.2 1.7 2.0 2.5 2.6 2.8 3.0 3.2 3.4 3.6 3.8 4.0 4.2 4.5-5.2 5.4 5.6-6.2 6.5 6.7-7.0 7.2-8.2 8.5-8.7 8.9 9.7 9.9-10.2 10.9-11.4

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
     m_b_metcalf        6     61    20m47s  dealer
             gsf        1    165     2h13m  rare-0,pearl,highest-rating=25
          joel64        2    184     2h08m  rare-1,pearl
         Patrice        6    315     1h01m  pearl*3,last-entry=59
       champagne        9    555     1h07m  rare-0,rare-2,pearl*6,dup-puzzle-tie
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               5       24   1280            rare-0*2,rare-1,rare-2,pearl*11


[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0170 start LIGHTNING at 2012-03-18+03:00:00-0000 :::

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dealer status

candidate patterns (via private message to g.r.emlin)

   1 coloin            1 m_b_metcalf      26 tarek            87 g.r.emlin

past patterns

   1 claudiarabia      1 ravel             6 ronk             20 m_b_metcalf      33 JPF
   1 draco             1 wintder           9 gsf              20 Pat
   1 Eioru             3 g.r.emlin        19 coloin           27 Mauricio
   1 pseudocoup        6 champagne        19 TTHsieh          32 tarek


[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0170 start LIGHTNING at 2012-03-18+19:00:00-0000 :::

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dealer status

candidate patterns (via private message to g.r.emlin)

   1 m_b_metcalf      26 tarek            87 g.r.emlin

past patterns

   1 claudiarabia      1 ravel             6 ronk             20 m_b_metcalf      33 JPF
   1 draco             1 wintder           9 gsf              20 Pat
   1 Eioru             3 g.r.emlin        19 TTHsieh          27 Mauricio
   1 pseudocoup        6 champagne        20 coloin           32 tarek


[m_b_metcalf]

::: game 0170 start LIGHTNING at 2012-03-18+03:00:00-0000 :::

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dealer status

candidate patterns (via private message to g.r.emlin)

   1 coloin            1 m_b_metcalf      26 tarek            87 g.r.emlin

past patterns

   1 claudiarabia      1 ravel             6 ronk             20 m_b_metcalf      33 JPF
   1 draco             1 wintder           9 gsf              20 Pat
   1 Eioru             3 g.r.emlin        19 coloin           27 Mauricio
   1 pseudocoup        6 champagne        19 TTHsieh          32 tarek


What's happening? coloin's puzzle has moved from 'candidate' to 'past' without a game having taken place!

::: game 0170 start LIGHTNING at 2012-03-18+19:00:00-0000 :::

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dealer status

candidate patterns (via private message to g.r.emlin)

   1 m_b_metcalf      26 tarek            87 g.r.emlin

past patterns

   1 claudiarabia      1 ravel             6 ronk             20 m_b_metcalf      33 JPF
   1 draco             1 wintder           9 gsf              20 Pat
   1 Eioru             3 g.r.emlin        19 TTHsieh          27 Mauricio
   1 pseudocoup        6 champagne        20 coloin           32 tarek


Regards,

Mike Metcalf

[ronk]

::: comment :::

What's happening? coloin's puzzle has moved from 'candidate' to 'past' without a game having taken place!

A couple of possibilities come to mind. First, weekend restart of the host computer seems to be a common event. Second, maybe coloin's submission didn't meet the game's requirements and "filtering" at game start is different than at pattern submission.

[gsf]

::: cpmment :::

What's happening? coloin's puzzle has moved from 'candidate' to 'past' without a game having taken place!

ronk's latter guess was correct
although puzzles are vetted when read from g.r.emlin's inbox
the vetting is only against games already played
not against other entries in the submission queue
so duplicate pattern/puzzle is checked again because of games played between submission and game start

it took a while for me to find it though, so the referee logs need some tweaking
the log should have had something like this (duplicate-pattern was the specific problem with the submission)

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2012-03-14 22:04 ........X.....X.X...X...XX...X..X.X..X..X....X..X.......X..XX...X.X.....X...X.... coloin DUPLICATE-PATTERN


this state change hasn't been hit before so we'll see today how robust that part of the referee is

[coloin]

So possibly m_b_metcalf's and my submission were the same. ok.
C

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0170 start LIGHTNING at 2012-03-19+11:00:00-0000 :::

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dealer status

candidate patterns (via private message to g.r.emlin)

   1 m_b_metcalf      25 tarek            87 g.r.emlin

past patterns

   1 claudiarabia      1 ravel             6 ronk             20 m_b_metcalf      33 tarek
   1 draco             1 wintder           9 gsf              20 Pat
   1 Eioru             3 g.r.emlin        19 TTHsieh          27 Mauricio
   1 pseudocoup        6 champagne        20 coloin           33 JPF


[tarek]

:::comment:::
The change also affected one of my candidate submission. They are now down by 1 while the past submissions are up by 1

[ronk]

:::comment:::

The change also affected one of my candidate submission. They are now down by 1 while the past submissions are up by 1

g.r.emlin just tried to start a game with your pattern. Strange coincidence if true, but maybe it duplicated someone else's pattern which was played after your submission, just like coloin's.

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0170 start LIGHTNING at 2012-03-20+03:00:00-0000 :::

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dealer status

candidate patterns (via private message to g.r.emlin)

  25 tarek            87 g.r.emlin

past patterns

   1 claudiarabia      1 ravel             6 ronk             20 Pat              33 tarek
   1 draco             1 wintder           9 gsf              21 m_b_metcalf
   1 Eioru             3 g.r.emlin        19 TTHsieh          27 Mauricio
   1 pseudocoup        6 champagne        20 coloin           33 JPF


[champagne]

I guess glenn is suffering a lot
good luck

champagne

[m_b_metcalf]

I guess glenn is suffering a lot
good luck

... and it's my pattern that's gone down the tubes!

Mike