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[Cec]

Hurray, at last

As Luna as succinctly put it - It's the twelve times table

Clue: 1
1 x 12 = 12
2 x 12 = 24
3 x 12 = 36
4 x 12 = 48
5 x 12 = 60
6 x 12 = 72
7 x 12 = 84
8 x 12 = 96
9 x 12 = 108
10 x 12 = 120
11 x 12 = 132
12 x 12 = 144

Now you know it's the twelve times table can you complete the rest of the clue - and it's nothing to do with line eight yet.

OK .. I'll try another hunch. The 12th line should read 12 x 12= 144 which "completes the rest of the clue". This has filled in x meaning "time" between 12 and 12 which "sounds busy"
edited by Cec 12.35am one time in total

Cec

[MCC]

Looks like the answer could be reached via 2 different routes. I'll leave the Twelve Times Table route for luna & others to follow, and focus on the classical music route...

That is true.

Are concept such as symphony or orchestra relevant?

Yes, but neither of these two.

Job title of former taxi-drivers? Like ex-taxi-drivers (ecstasy something ) or ex-cab-drivers, ex-cabbies if there is such a word?

It was a job title use in the 19th century i.e., the 1800's.

I cannot see the connection between classical music to that first sentence... Putting them together, "Classical music sounds busy to former taxi-drivers"... Doesn't make sense to me... (I did mention I tend to think things over too simply...)

The first sentence:
The first part relates to a composer.
The second part is a composition of the composer.

Oh, did I forget to mention I've absolutely no expert knowledge in classical music or generally any music (unlike RW )...

If your not too familiar with clasical composers you could try wikipedia for example.

PS: Sorry, just got some insight into the Twelve Times Table concept, and will share it for others to follow up...

Now, Times Table sounds like Timetable, which relates to time and with the 8th line - does it have something to do with 8 o'clock? Probably another red herring, but anything's worth a try...

You're right, it's a dead end.

PS2: Just occured to me that former taxi-drivers could also mean people who transported passengers around in ancient times... What were they called? Horsemen?

See answer above. But you're not far off.

OK .. I'll try another hunch. The 12th line should read 12 x 12= 144 which "completes the rest of the clue". This has filled in x meaning "time" between 12 and 12 which "sounds busy"

If something is not there, it's '_ _ _ _ _'.

And what is '_ _ _ _ _'


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[underquark]

Anything to do with Bizet, Carmen?

[udosuk]

Bizet - Carmen is probably what the first sentence relates to. So what word does it give you? E.g. Carment, Opera, Gypsy, French, Libretto...

And then we need to get the 1st word out of "it's a bad thing"... Still looks like a daunting task to me...

If something is not there, it's '_ _ _ _ _'.
And what is '_ _ _ _ _'

If something is not there, it's 't i m e s'.
And what is 't i m e s'

If something is not there, it's 'c r o s s'.
And what is 'c r o s s'

If something is not there, it's 'w h i t e'.
And what is 'w h i t e'

You see, ambiguity is sometimes a bad thing too...

[underquark]

Bizet Carmen = acne zit berm; huge pustulous zits the size of ice walls. Sounds like a bad thing to me (or Hemingway).

Bizet's Carmen was also a tragedy and that's a bad thing.

[udosuk]

Okay, I will post the first try but you all know who has solved the bulk of this: Tragedy Opera...

[MCC]

Carmen is the second word.

Sounds busy - Bizet - was a hint for the second part of the first sentence.

First past the first hurdle is Underquark with Carmen.

If there were any bonus points for an alternate answer it would got to Udosuk with - Tragedy Opera.


The twelve times table:

Slight confusion with this hint.

If something is not there, it's '_ _ _ _ _'.
And what is '_ _ _ _ _'

It's not 'what' is not there (well, it is in a way,see below), but the 'act' of it not being there.

Whilst you think about the above, bear this by Udosuk in mind.

If something is not there, it's 't i m e s'.
And what is 't i m e s'.

Remember this route will give you the whole thing.(This is not a hint)


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[udosuk]

If something is not there, it's 'e m p t y'.
And what is 'e m p t y'

The operation? The relation?

How about Opera Carmen or Tragic Carmen?

[MCC]

How about this.

A bottle of milk with no milk in it, is empty.
A bottle of milk that's not there, is '_ _ _ _ _'.

Or.

Something that should be there but isn't, is ' _ _ _ _ _'.

The number of _ _ _'s does not necessarily indicate the lenght of the word.


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[lunababy_moonchild]

How about this.

A bottle of milk with no milk in it, is empty.
A bottle of milk that's not there, is '_ _ _ _ _'.

Or.

Something that should be there but isn't, is ' _ _ _ _ _'.

Missing. Or absent.

Luna

[MCC]

Ok Luna, missing is the word you're after

So - We have the twelve times table and something is missing, what is missing

What are you left with Try wikiing it.


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[Cec]

So - We have the twelve times table and something is missing, what is missing .

Clue: 1
1 x 12 = 12
2 x 12 = 24
3 x 12 = 36
4 x 12 = 48
5 x 12 = 60
6 x 12 = 72
7 x 12 = 84
8 x 12 = 96
9 x 12 = 108
10 x 12 = 120
11 x 12 = 132
12 x 12 = 144
Now you know it's the twelve times table can you complete the rest of the clue - and it's nothing to do with line eight yet.

In the 12th line the x is missing.

Cec

[lunababy_moonchild]

The twelfth times is missing.

Luna

[MCC]

So, We have the twelve times table and the times is missing.

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[lunababy_moonchild]

Twelve table

Luna