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Re: re: diagonality

Postby tarek » Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:48 pm

champagne wrote:
Pat wrote:
    my problem is that tarek expects his pattern to produce high diamonds,
    where i suspect it won't even produce a plain 10.x/1.2/1.2

    how can we settle this question?


tarek could bring some examples of such diamonds:D:D

chgampagne
I think I fell into this trap as soon as I posted that pattern the 1st time .... I'll see what I can do:)

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Postby m_b_metcalf » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:41 pm

Here are some non-minimal puzzles:
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 1 . 2 . . 3 . . 4
 . 5 . . 2 . . 1 .
 6 . 3 7 . . 2 . .
 . . 7 8 . 2 . . 6
 . 8 . . 9 . . 2 .
 2 . . 3 . 7 5 . .
 . . 5 . . 6 4 . 2
 . 2 . . 7 . . 3 .
 4 . . 2 . . 8 . 1   ED=3.8/3.8/2.6

 1 . 2 . . 3 . . 4
 . 3 . . 5 . . 6 .
 7 . 5 4 . . 8 . .
 . . 1 3 . 4 . . 2
 . 2 . . 1 . . 4 .
 6 . . 7 . 2 3 . .
 . . 8 . . 9 1 . 6
 . 1 . . 4 . . 8 .
 2 . . 1 . . 4 . 9   ED=4.4/3.0/2.6

 1 . 2 . . 3 . . 4
 . 4 . . 2 . . 5 .
 6 . 5 4 . . 2 . .
 . . 6 7 . 4 . . 8
 . 8 . . 9 . . 4 .
 4 . . 8 . 1 9 . .
 . . 4 . . 7 8 . 1
 . 6 . . 4 . . 7 .
 7 . . 9 . . 4 . 6   ED=6.6/3.6/2.6

 1 . 2 . . 3 . . 4
 . 4 . . 2 . . 3 .
 3 . 5 4 . . 2 . .
 . . 1 5 . 4 . . 3
 . 5 . . 3 . . 6 .
 7 . . 2 . 6 4 . .
 . . 7 . . 2 1 . 6
 . 1 . . 4 . . 8 .
 8 . . 1 . . 3 . 7   ED=7.1/3.2/3.2

 1 . 2 . . 3 . . 4
 . 5 . . 1 . . 3 .
 6 . 3 4 . . 1 . .
 . . 6 7 . 4 . . 5
 . 4 . . 8 . . 6 .
 9 . . 6 . 1 4 . .
 . . 9 . . 7 2 . 6
 . 6 . . 2 . . 4 .
 2 . . 5 . . 7 . 8   ED=7.1/4.2/2.6

 1 . 2 . . 3 . . 4
 . 5 . . 2 . . 1 .
 6 . 3 1 . . 2 . .
 . . 5 7 . 8 . . 9
 . 6 . . 3 . . 8 .
 8 . . 9 . 5 4 . .
 . . 4 . . 7 1 . 2
 . 7 . . 9 . . 4 .
 5 . . 3 . . 8 . 7   ED=7.1/6.6/2.6

 1 . 2 . . 3 . . 4
 . 4 . . 2 . . 1 .
 5 . 6 4 . . 3 . .
 . . 5 3 . 7 . . 1
 . 1 . . 8 . . 9 .
 2 . . 1 . 9 4 . .
 . . 8 . . 6 1 . 5
 . 5 . . 3 . . 6 .
 6 . . 5 . . 8 . 9   ED=7.2/3.6/2.6

 1 . 2 . . 3 . . 4
 . 5 . . 6 . . 7 .
 6 . 8 4 . . 1 . .
 . . 7 2 . 5 . . 6
 . 6 . . 1 . . 4 .
 8 . . 6 . 4 5 . .
 . . 6 . . 7 4 . 3
 . 8 . . 4 . . 2 .
 7 . . 5 . . 9 . 1   ED=7.2/7.2/2.6

 1 . 2 . . 3 . . 4
 . 5 . . 2 . . 6 .
 6 . 7 8 . . 2 . .
 . . 9 3 . 1 . . 5
 . 1 . . 7 . . 3 .
 3 . . 2 . 5 1 . .
 . . 1 . . 6 4 . 8
 . 6 . . 4 . . 9 .
 7 . . 9 . . 5 . 6   ED=7.3/7.3/2.6

 1 . 2 . . 3 . . 4
 . 5 . . 6 . . 1 .
 7 . 6 1 . . 8 . .
 . . 7 2 . 4 . . 9
 . 2 . . 8 . . 3 .
 9 . . 7 . 6 4 . .
 . . 8 . . 5 9 . 1
 . 7 . . 9 . . 4 .
 5 . . 6 . . 3 . 8   ED=8.3/7.1/2.6

Regards,

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Postby g.r.emlin » Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:00 pm

::: game 0099 open 2010-01-21+19:00:14-0000 dealer JPF 24 clues diagonal and antidiagonal symmetry :::
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1 . 2 . . . 3 . .
. 4 . . . 5 . . .
5 . . . 6 . . . 7
. . . 8 . 9 . 1 .
. . 4 . . . 7 . .
. 2 . 3 . 4 . . .
2 . . . 5 . . . 3
. . . 1 . . . 2 .
. . 6 . . . 5 . 9  ED=1.5/1.2/1.2
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Postby joel64 » Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:29 pm

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1 . 2 . . . 3 . .
. 4 . . . 5 . . .
6 . . . 9 . . . 2
. . . 4 . 7 . 1 .
. . 5 . . . 6 . .
. 8 . 9 . 3 . . .
2 . . . 1 . . . 5
. . . 5 . . . 8 .
. . 3 . . . 4 . 1  ED=1.5/1.5/1.5
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Postby champagne » Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:31 pm

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9.8...7..
.6...5...
4...3...2
...1.2.3.
..5...1..
.4.8.6...
8...7...6
...9...8.
..2...9.1 ED=2.0/2.0/2.0
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Postby joel64 » Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:44 pm

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1 . 2 . . . 3 . .
. 4 . . . 5 . . .
9 . . . 7 . . . 4
. . . 6 . 8 . 2 .
. . 3 . . . 4 . .
. 2 . 9 . 3 . . .
3 . . . 8 . . . 9
. . . 1 . . . 8 .
. . 5 . . . 6 . 2  ED=1.2/1.2/1.2
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Postby champagne » Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:45 pm

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9.8...7..
.6...5...
4...3...2
...1.2.3.
..5...1..
.4.8.9...
6...9...1
...7...8.
..2...3.7 ED=2.6/2.6/2.6
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Postby joel64 » Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:55 pm

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1 . 2 . . . 3 . .
. 4 . . . 5 . . .
5 . . . 6 . . . 7
. . . 8 . 9 . 1 .
. . 7 . . . 4 . .
. 2 . 6 . 3 . . .
4 . . . 2 . . . 6
. . . 1 . . . 9 .
. . 3 . . . 5 . 1  ED=2.5/2.5/2.5
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Postby gsf » Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:01 pm

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9 . 8 . . . 7 . .
. 6 . . . 5 . . .
4 . . . 3 . . . 2
. . . 1 . 2 . 3 .
. . 5 . . . 6 . .
. 4 . 8 . 9 . . .
6 . . . 9 . . . 1
. . . 7 . . . 8 .
. . 2 . . . 3 . 7  ED=2.3/2.3/2.3
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Postby joel64 » Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:14 pm

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1 . 2 . . . 3 . .
. 4 . . . 5 . . .
5 . . . 6 . . . 7
. . . 8 . 9 . 1 .
. . 5 . . . 4 . .
. 8 . 3 . 4 . . .
2 . . . 9 . . . 6
. . . 2 . . . 3 .
. . 7 . . . 9 . 2  ED=9.1/9.1/2.6
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Postby champagne » Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:26 pm

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9.8...7..
.6...5...
4...3...2
...1.2.3.
..5...1..
.7.9.6...
7...2...8
...8...7.
..4...9.1 ED=9.2/9.2/2.6
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Postby joel64 » Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:29 pm

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1 . 2 . . . 3 . .
. 4 . . . 5 . . .
8 . . . 1 . . . 9
. . . 2 . 4 . 6 .
. . 6 . . . 8 . .
. 3 . 1 . 6 . . .
9 . . . 7 . . . 4
. . . 5 . . . 2 .
. . 5 . . . 7 . 8  ED=9.4/9.4/2.6

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Postby g.r.emlin » Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:32 pm

::: game 0099 status 2010-01-21+20:32:38-0000 :::
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game 0099 2010-01-21+19:00:00-0000 duration 1h29m dealer JPF page 414 (open) 4 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 joel64         2.3/2.3/2.3 gsf            9.1/9.1/2.6 joel64
    1.5/1.5/1.5 joel64         2.5/2.5/2.5 joel64         9.2/9.2/2.6 champagne
    2.0/2.0/2.0 champagne      2.6/2.6/2.6 champagne      9.4/9.4/2.6 joel64
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    open ratings : 1.7 2.8 3.0 3.2 3.4 3.6 3.8 4.0 4.2 4.4-5.2 5.4 5.6-6.2 6.5-9.0 9.3 9.5-11.4

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
       ---------  -------  -----  --------  -----
             JPF        0      0         0  dealer
             gsf        1      7     5m59s
       champagne        3     59     4m59s  diamond,pearl
          joel64        5    155    13m35s  diamond,pearl*2,highest-rating=18,last-entry=9
       ---------  -------  -----            -----
               4        9    221            diamond*2,pearl*3
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Postby champagne » Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:35 pm

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9.8...7..
.6...5...
4...3...2
...1.2.3.
..1...2..
.4.3.6...
8...9...6
...8...5.
..9...8.7  ED=1.7/1.7/1.7
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Postby g.r.emlin » Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:42 pm

::: rarity :::
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2010-01-21+20:35:00-0000 1.7/1.7/1.7 champagne rare ED seen 2 times before
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