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[g.r.emlin]

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2010-01-16+14:10:00-0000 7.0/6.6/6.6 gsf rare ED not seen before


[JPF]

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 . . 1 | . . 2 | . . 3
 . 4 . | . 5 . | . 1 .
 6 . . | 1 . . | 7 . .
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 . . 4 | . . 8 | . . 6
 . 9 . | . 7 . | . 8 .
 8 . . | 2 . 9 | 5 . .
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 . . 8 | . . 5 | . . 1
 . 3 . | . 8 . | . 6 .
 9 . . | 4 . . | 8 . .       ED=8.7/8.7/8.4



JPF

[gsf]

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. . 5 . . 6 . . 9
. 6 . . 2 . . 4 .
1 . . 3 . . 2 . .
. . 6 . . 3 . . 1
. 1 . . 5 . . 9 .
9 . . 2 . 1 3 . .
. . 2 . . 7 . . 4
. 4 . . 3 . . 7 .
6 . . 4 . . 9 . .  ED=6.7/6.6/6.6

[g.r.emlin]

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2010-01-16+14:55:00-0000 6.7/6.6/6.6 gsf rare ED seen 2 times before


[JPF]

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 . . 1 | . . 2 | . . 3
 . 3 . | . 4 . | . 5 .
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 . . 7 | . . 8 | . . 1
 . 8 . | . 5 . | . 7 .
 1 . . | 7 . 4 | 5 . .
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 . . 2 | . . 9 | . . 5
 . 1 . | . 2 . | . 9 .
 9 . . | 6 . . | 8 . .       ED=9.6/9.6/3.8



JPF

[g.r.emlin]

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2010-01-16+15:20:00-0000 9.6/9.6/3.8 JPF rare ED seen 2 times before


[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0098 idle LIGHTNING 2010-01-17+14:23:20-0000 -- with no further entries the game will close at 2010-01-17+17:00:00-0000 :::

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game 0098 2010-01-13+14:00:00-0000 LIGHTNING duration 3d01h dealer Pat pages 401-412 (open) 6 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 joel64         4.5/4.5/3.4 champagne      7.4/7.4/7.4 m_b_metcalf    8.9/8.9/8.9 champagne
    1.5/1.2/1.2 JPF            4.6/3.4/3.4 champagne      7.5/7.5/7.5 champagne      9.0/9.0/9.0 champagne
    1.7/1.2/1.2 JPF            4.7/2.0/2.0 gsf            7.6/7.6/7.6 gsf            9.1/9.1/9.1 m_b_metcalf
    2.0/2.0/2.0 champagne      5.6/3.8/3.8 champagne      7.7/7.7/3.8 JPF            9.2/9.2/9.2 m_b_metcalf
    2.3/2.3/2.3 gsf            5.7/3.8/3.8 JPF            7.8/7.8/3.4 gsf            9.3/9.3/9.3 champagne
    2.5/2.5/2.5 champagne      6.2/3.8/3.6 gsf            7.9/7.9/7.2 champagne      9.4/9.4/9.4 JPF
    2.6/2.6/2.6 joel64         6.5/3.8/3.6 champagne      8.0/1.2/1.2 gsf            9.5/9.5/9.5 JPF
    2.8/2.8/2.8 gsf            6.6/6.6/6.6 champagne      8.1/1.2/1.2 gsf            9.6/9.6/3.8 JPF
    3.0/3.0/3.0 champagne      6.7/6.6/6.6 gsf            8.2/8.2/8.2 champagne      9.7/9.7/9.3 JPF
    3.2/3.2/2.8 gsf            6.8/4.5/3.4 JPF            8.3/8.3/8.3 gsf            9.8/9.8/9.8 gsf
    3.4/3.4/3.4 champagne      6.9/3.8/3.2 gsf            8.4/8.4/8.4 gsf            9.9/9.9/9.3 JPF
    3.6/3.6/3.6 m_b_metcalf    7.0/6.6/6.6 gsf            8.5/8.5/8.5 champagne     10.0/1.2/1.2 JPF
    3.8/3.8/3.8 m_b_metcalf    7.1/7.1/7.1 m_b_metcalf    8.6/8.6/8.4 gsf
    4.2/4.2/3.8 champagne      7.2/7.2/7.2 gsf            8.7/8.7/8.4 JPF
    4.4/4.4/3.0 JPF            7.3/7.3/7.3 m_b_metcalf    8.8/8.8/8.8 gsf
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 4.0 4.8-5.2 5.4 5.8-6.1 10.1-11.4

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
             Pat        0     40     7m44s  rare-1*2,dealer
          joel64        2    111    24m31s  rare-0*2,rare-1,rare-2,diamond,dup-puzzle
     m_b_metcalf        7    849    16m23s  rare-0*5,rare-1*2,diamond*7
       champagne       17   1883    16m13s  rare-0*5,rare-1*2,rare-2,diamond*10,pearl*3
             gsf       18   2691     1h14m  rare-0*6,rare-1,rare-2,diamond*7,pearl*3
             JPF       13   3770    57m36s  rare-0*3,rare-1*2,rare-2*2,diamond*2,pearl*6,highest-rating=757,last-entry=408
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               6       57   9344            rare-0*21,rare-1*10,rare-2*5,diamond*27,pearl*12


[Pat]

28 clues could be almost-entirely-diagonal,
which would be expected to produce some very high ratings

so we reached 10.0
( and i was hoping for even higher--- )

[tarek]

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28 clues could be almost-entirely-diagonal,
which would be expected to produce some very high ratings

so we reached 10.0
( and i was hoping for even higher--- )

I'm hoping that something like this would generate minimal puzzles with high diamonds

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 X . X | . . X | . . X
 . X . | . X . | . X .
 X . X | X . . | X . .
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 . . X | X . X | . . X
 . X . | . X . | . X .
 X . . | X . X | X . .
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 . . X | . . X | X . X
 . X . | . X . | . X .
 X . . | X . . | X . X

33 clues

tarek

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0098 closed LIGHTNING (idle for 1d02h) -- preliminary results :::

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game 0098 2010-01-13+14:00:00-0000 LIGHTNING duration 3d01h dealer Pat pages 401-412 (final) 6 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 joel64         4.5/4.5/3.4 champagne      7.4/7.4/7.4 m_b_metcalf    8.9/8.9/8.9 champagne
    1.5/1.2/1.2 JPF            4.6/3.4/3.4 champagne      7.5/7.5/7.5 champagne      9.0/9.0/9.0 champagne
    1.7/1.2/1.2 JPF            4.7/2.0/2.0 gsf            7.6/7.6/7.6 gsf            9.1/9.1/9.1 m_b_metcalf
    2.0/2.0/2.0 champagne      5.6/3.8/3.8 champagne      7.7/7.7/3.8 JPF            9.2/9.2/9.2 m_b_metcalf
    2.3/2.3/2.3 gsf            5.7/3.8/3.8 JPF            7.8/7.8/3.4 gsf            9.3/9.3/9.3 champagne
    2.5/2.5/2.5 champagne      6.2/3.8/3.6 gsf            7.9/7.9/7.2 champagne      9.4/9.4/9.4 JPF
    2.6/2.6/2.6 joel64         6.5/3.8/3.6 champagne      8.0/1.2/1.2 gsf            9.5/9.5/9.5 JPF
    2.8/2.8/2.8 gsf            6.6/6.6/6.6 champagne      8.1/1.2/1.2 gsf            9.6/9.6/3.8 JPF
    3.0/3.0/3.0 champagne      6.7/6.6/6.6 gsf            8.2/8.2/8.2 champagne      9.7/9.7/9.3 JPF
    3.2/3.2/2.8 gsf            6.8/4.5/3.4 JPF            8.3/8.3/8.3 gsf            9.8/9.8/9.8 gsf
    3.4/3.4/3.4 champagne      6.9/3.8/3.2 gsf            8.4/8.4/8.4 gsf            9.9/9.9/9.3 JPF
    3.6/3.6/3.6 m_b_metcalf    7.0/6.6/6.6 gsf            8.5/8.5/8.5 champagne     10.0/1.2/1.2 JPF
    3.8/3.8/3.8 m_b_metcalf    7.1/7.1/7.1 m_b_metcalf    8.6/8.6/8.4 gsf
    4.2/4.2/3.8 champagne      7.2/7.2/7.2 gsf            8.7/8.7/8.4 JPF
    4.4/4.4/3.0 JPF            7.3/7.3/7.3 m_b_metcalf    8.8/8.8/8.8 gsf
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 4.0 4.8-5.2 5.4 5.8-6.1 10.1-11.4

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
             Pat        0     40     7m44s  rare-1*2,dealer
          joel64        2    111    24m31s  rare-0*2,rare-1,rare-2,diamond,dup-puzzle
     m_b_metcalf        7    849    16m23s  rare-0*5,rare-1*2,diamond*7
       champagne       17   1883    16m13s  rare-0*5,rare-1*2,rare-2,diamond*10,pearl*3
             gsf       18   2691     1h14m  rare-0*6,rare-1,rare-2,diamond*7,pearl*3
             JPF       13   3770    57m36s  rare-0*3,rare-1*2,rare-2*2,diamond*2,pearl*6,highest-rating=757,last-entry=408
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               6       57   9344            rare-0*21,rare-1*10,rare-2*5,diamond*27,pearl*12


[gsf]

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006002007010070080700800500001005009050090010900201300005006003060020090200400800 3.2/3.2/3.2
009004006020090080700600900001007002050040010900201300008006003040030060300400700 7.0/7.0/3.8


[JPF]

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001002003020010040500600100007006004050040070400708200005007009030060080800900500   10.4/10.4/8.3
001002003040010050600300100006007008080020070700809300002001005060070030900200400   9.7/9.7/9.4
001002003030010020200400500005004006040020070700608900008001009050080060100300800   8.6/8.6/8.5
001002003030040050200300400006007008010050070300809500005004001060020090100900800   8.0/8.0/3.4
001002003040050010600100200006007005070030080400508700009005002030020090100300800   7.0/7.0/6.6
001002003040030050600500700002008006010050080800204900008003009060080070100700800   6.9/3.8/3.8
001002003040010050600300200005007002060050030700806500006004008010080070900100300   5.8/1.2/1.2
001002003040050020600300400007003008010070090800205700004006009060020050100500800   4.4/4.4/3.2
001002003020040050400300200006007005010030070700504800009001007060090080100400600   3.2/3.2/3.2

JPF

[Pat]

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..1..2..3.2..1..4.5..6..1....7..6..4.5..4..7.4..7.82....5..7..9.3..6..8.8..9..5..   10.4/10.4/8.3



so we reached 10.4
( as i was hoping )
-- and how typical that JPF is the one who found it!!

[Pat]

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I'm hoping that something like this would generate minimal puzzles with high diamonds

33 clues

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 . X . | . X . | . X .
 X . X | X . . | X . .
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 . . X | X . X | . . X
 . X . | . X . | . X .
 X . . | X . X | X . .
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 . . X | . . X | X . X
 . X . | . X . | . X .
 X . . | X . . | X . X



• 29 is the maximum for the game
  
  i'm willing to raise this limit
  
  
  but finding any minimal puzzles is quite difficult
  when the pattern has so many clues
  
  ( Mauricio showed great expertese in such tasks )
• your pattern of 33 does have 6 boxes of diagonal clues,
  but the other 3 boxes are not
  ( many pairs of clues share box and line ),
  and i doubt there will be any 10.x
  ( not even speaking of diamonds, just any plain 10.x/1.2/1.2 )

[champagne]

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