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by **tarek** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:47 am

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m_b_metcalf wrote:::: comment :::
tarek wrote:My opinion about this still remains the same: Biggest bonus for last entry, lesser bonuses for anything else.

I disagree entirely. The Holy Grail of the Game has always been, and should remain, gigantic Diamonds, and these should be rewarded above all else. It's absurd that a puny 6.2 should be better rewarded just because someone had more patience.

Currently, only a handful of players are capable of generating diamonds. I can understand your point if so many players are capable of that and are actively participating. I favour the change aiming to attract more players to participate with a chance of winning regardless of their fire power :idea:

tarek

by **JPF** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:57 pm

Code: Select all: 1 . 2 | . . . | 3 . . . 4 . | . . . | . 5 . 3 . . | . . 6 | 1 . 7 -------+-------+------- . . . | 1 . 2 | 8 . . . . . | . . . | . . . . . 6 | 9 . 7 | . . . -------+-------+------- 2 . 1 | 5 . . | . . 9 . 9 . | . . . | . 6 . . . 7 | . . . | 2 . 3 ED=4.6/4.6/2.6

JPF

by **gsf** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:00 pm

Code: Select all: 1 . 2 . . . 4 . . . 8 . . . . . 6 . 4 . . . . 9 2 . 1 . . . 3 . 4 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 9 . 5 . . . 7 . 3 8 . . . . 2 . 5 . . . . . 9 . . . 4 . . . 3 . 7 ED=7.0/7.0/2.6

by **JPF** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:16 pm

Code: Select all: 1 . 2 | . . . | 3 . . . 4 . | . . . | . 5 . 6 . . | . . 7 | 1 . 2 -------+-------+------- . . . | 5 . 1 | 8 . . . . . | . . . | . . . . . 3 | 6 . 2 | . . . -------+-------+------- 5 . 1 | 4 . . | . . 3 . 2 . | . . . | . 7 . . . 8 | . . . | 9 . 5 ED=5.6/4.7/3.4

JPF

by **m_b_metcalf** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:26 pm

Code: Select all: 1 . 2 . . . 3 . . . 4 . . . . . 5 . 6 . . . . 7 2 . 8 . . . 8 . 2 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 7 . 5 . . . 9 . 1 4 . . . . 2 . 6 . . . . . 7 . . . 8 . . . 6 . 9 ED=7.5/7.5/6.6

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

by **gsf** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:55 pm

Code: Select all: 1 . 8 . . . 3 . . . 4 . . . . . 5 . 6 . . . . 7 8 . 1 . . . 8 . 3 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 1 . 6 . . . 5 . 3 4 . . . . 8 . 1 . . . . . 9 . . . 6 . . . 7 . 5 ED=5.0/5.0/3.4

by **JPF** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:58 pm

Code: Select all: 1 . 2 | . . . | 3 . . . 4 . | . . . | . 1 . 5 . . | . . 6 | 7 . 2 -------+-------+------- . . . | 8 . 9 | 4 . . . . . | . . . | . . . . . 6 | 5 . 7 | . . . -------+-------+------- 7 . 5 | 3 . . | . . 8 . 9 . | . . . | . 5 . . . 8 | . . . | 1 . 7 ED=9.4/9.4/6.6

JPF

by **m_b_metcalf** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:00 pm

Code: Select all: 1 . 2 . . . 3 . . . 4 . . . . . 5 . 3 . . . . 6 7 . 2 . . . 3 . 7 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 4 . 2 . . . 7 . 6 9 . . . . 3 . 2 . . . . . 8 . . . 1 . . . 6 . 5 ED=7.7/7.7/4.0

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

by **g.r.emlin** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:02 pm

::: game 0089 status 2009-09-09+14:02:18-0000 :::

Code: Select all: game 0089 2009-09-06+03:00:00-0000 duration 3d11h dealer tarek pages 289-294 (open) 4 players ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 1.2/1.2/1.2 JPF 4.0/4.0/4.0 JPF 7.0/7.0/2.6 gsf 8.3/8.3/8.2 tarek 1.5/1.5/1.5 JPF 4.2/4.2/3.4 JPF 7.1/7.1/7.1 gsf 8.4/8.4/8.4 gsf 1.7/1.5/1.5 JPF 4.4/4.4/4.4 m_b_metcalf 7.2/7.2/7.2 gsf 8.5/8.5/8.3 gsf 2.0/2.0/2.0 JPF 4.5/4.5/3.4 JPF 7.3/7.3/7.3 gsf 8.6/8.6/7.8 gsf 2.3/2.3/2.3 JPF 4.6/4.6/2.6 JPF 7.4/7.4/7.1 m_b_metcalf 8.7/8.7/7.8 gsf 2.5/2.5/2.5 m_b_metcalf 4.7/4.7/3.4 JPF 7.5/7.5/6.6 m_b_metcalf 8.8/8.8/8.4 gsf 2.6/2.6/2.6 gsf 5.0/5.0/3.4 gsf 7.6/7.6/4.0 gsf 8.9/8.9/8.9 m_b_metcalf 2.8/2.8/2.8 gsf 5.6/4.7/3.4 JPF 7.7/7.7/4.0 m_b_metcalf 9.0/9.0/9.0 m_b_metcalf 3.0/3.0/3.0 tarek 6.2/6.2/6.2 m_b_metcalf 7.8/7.8/7.8 gsf 9.1/9.1/9.0 m_b_metcalf 3.4/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf 6.6/6.6/6.6 m_b_metcalf 7.9/7.9/6.6 gsf 9.2/9.2/9.0 m_b_metcalf 3.6/3.6/3.6 gsf 6.7/6.7/6.6 m_b_metcalf 8.0/8.0/6.6 m_b_metcalf 9.3/9.3/6.6 JPF 3.8/3.8/3.8 gsf 6.8/6.8/6.6 m_b_metcalf 8.2/8.2/8.2 gsf 9.4/9.4/6.6 JPF ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ open ratings : 3.2 4.8 5.1 5.2 5.4 5.7-6.1 6.5 6.9 8.1 9.5-10.7 submitter entries score response notes ----------- ------- ----- -------- ----- tarek 2 136 3h12m diamond,pearl,dealer gsf 18 1509 1h13m diamond*10,pearl*8,edited,resigned-entry JPF 13 1706 1h30m diamond,pearl*6,highest-rating=931 m_b_metcalf 15 2335 1h17m diamond*7,pearl*8,last-entry=951 ----------- ------- ----- ----- 4 48 5686 diamond*19,pearl*23

by **gsf** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:05 pm

Code: Select all: 6 . 1 . . . 2 . . . 8 . . . . . 9 . 5 . . . . 4 8 . 6 . . . 2 . 5 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 7 . 6 . . . 4 . 5 3 . . . . 2 . 2 . . . . . 7 . . . 6 . . . 9 . 5 ED=8.3/8.3/8.3

by **m_b_metcalf** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:11 pm

Code: Select all: 1 . 2 . . . 3 . . . 4 . . . . . 5 . 6 . . . . 2 7 . 8 . . . 8 . 7 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 3 . 6 . . . 2 . 6 5 . . . . 3 . 3 . . . . . 6 . . . 4 . . . 5 . 9 ED=3.2/3.0/3.0

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

by **gsf** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:00 pm

Code: Select all: 1 . 9 . . . 3 . . . 4 . . . . . 6 . 6 . . . . 7 2 . 1 . . . 1 . 3 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 7 . 9 . . . 3 . 1 4 . . . . 7 . 9 . . . . . 2 . . . 2 . . . 6 . 8 ED=5.4/5.4/3.0

by **m_b_metcalf** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:12 pm

Code: Select all: 1 . 2 . . . 3 . . . 4 . . . . . 1 . 5 . . . . 6 2 . 7 . . . 8 . 2 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 5 . 7 . . . 6 . 5 3 . . . . 2 . 8 . . . . . 9 . . . 7 . . . 8 . 6 ED=6.9/6.8/6.6

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

by **m_b_metcalf** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:14 pm

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The previous post is a new rating.

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

by **gsf** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:17 pm

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m_b_metcalf wrote:
The previous post is a new rating.

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

part of the discussion before possibly retooling the next game should be entries like this
and maybe allowing a bonus for new/rare ratings even if they get trumped
I have code in place that keeps a histogram of all ratings in all of previous games
a bonus could be computed from the counts

like Mike alluded to in a previous post, one of the original goals for the game is to produce a nice catalog of puzzles,
and rules should support those goals while still making the game interesting for all players

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