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Postby coloin » Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:27 pm

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+---+---+---+
|...|..4|5..|
|.6.|.9.|.3.|
|...|8..|..1|
+---+---+---+
|..7|5..|...|
|.2.|..6|...|
|3..|.2.|.9.|
+---+---+---+
|5..|...|7..|
|.4.|..3|.6.|
|..1|...|..8|
+---+---+---+  ED=11.4/11.4/3.4


:::comment:::
The puzzle is isomorphic to this one posted here by ququeman
here
so I cant really take any credit -

Might it be remote from other [hard] puzzles - explaining why no one found it. ?

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Postby g.r.emlin » Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:17 am

::: game 0087 start at 2009-08-01+23:00:00-0000 :::
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   1 gsf               1 tarek            88 g.r.emlin

past patterns

   1 claudiarabia      1 pseudocoup        2 g.r.emlin        10 Pat              16 Mauricio
   1 draco             1 ravel             8 gsf              13 coloin           18 tarek
   1 Eioru             1 wintder           9 m_b_metcalf      16 JPF              19 TTHsieh
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Postby g.r.emlin » Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:56 am

::: game 0087 open 2009-08-02+05:56:48-0000 dealer gsf 23 clues pi rotational (180 degrees) symmetry :::
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. . . 7 . 3 . . .
. . 1 . 5 . 6 . .
. 2 . 8 . . . . 3
. . 7 . . . . 9 8
. . . . 4 . . . .
6 4 . . . . 7 . .
8 . . . . 1 . 2 .
. . 4 . 6 . 9 . .
. . . 2 . 9 . . .  ED=1.2/1.2/1.2
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re: game 86 -- 11.4

Postby Pat » Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:12 pm

::: comment :::
coloin wrote:
    .....45...6..9..3....8....1..75......2...6...3...2..9.5.....7...4...3.6...1.....8 11.4/11.4/3.4
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 . . . | . . 4 | 5 . .
 . 6 . | . 9 . | . 3 .
 . . . | 8 . . | . . 1
-------+-------+------
 . . 7 | 5 . . | . . .
 . 2 . | . . 6 | . . .
 3 . . | . 2 . | . 9 .
-------+-------+------
 5 . . | . . . | 7 . .
 . 4 . | . . 3 | . 6 .
 . . 1 | . . . | . . 8


The puzzle is isomorphic to this one posted by ququman (2009.May.14)
so I cant really take any credit

too late now --
but would've been better to post it as "more"
(even if you wish no credit for the puzzle)
just so it gets into the list in the "Results" Topic
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Postby 999_Springs » Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:03 pm

gsf wrote:I may have time to add the extra highest bonus for the next game

A fifty per cent highest rating bonus?

At the moment, "50% of the total score" is negative... so your score is currently -26 instead of -17...
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Postby gsf » Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:01 pm

::: comment :::
999_Springs wrote:
gsf wrote:I may have time to add the extra highest bonus for the next game

A fifty per cent highest rating bonus?

At the moment, "50% of the total score" is negative... so your score is currently -26 instead of -17...

right, I decided not to monkey with that until some feedback after this game
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re: bonuses

Postby Pat » Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:48 pm

    gsf, would you consider these minimal changes --
      bonus for last entry
        5 x submission ordinal
      bonus for highest rating
        = bonus for last entry ( not 5 x submission ordinal )
    -- if 5 seems inadequate,
    next make it 10 or whatever
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Postby tarek » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:14 pm

::: comment :::

bonus for last entry should make it possible for people with less powerful machines/software to win the game .... Therefore a percentage of the highest score is a good choice. It is an incentive for searching & posting more puzzles.

The highest rated puzzle should have a higher bonus but shouldn't be as high as the last entry bonus. "2x current bonus" my suggestion.

If the highest rated puzzle bonus is similar to the last entry bonus then that will put off some people from targeting the last entry bonus if they joined later in the game or becuase the person who submitted the highest entry is well ahead.

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Postby gsf » Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:49 am

::: comment :::

some good comments on the highest and last entry bonuses
I think a percentage of the current total score for both would be good

we can use a few games to see what looks good

the initial percentages starting this game are:
highest 25%
last 50%

percentage bonuses only applied if the total score is positive
we can tweak the percentages as the game progresses

this won't be documented until it converges
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Postby JPF » Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:17 am

::: comment :::
The new game 0087 must be posted here too, not only in the Patterns Game Results thread.

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Postby gsf » Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:49 am

::: comment :::
JPF wrote:The new game 0087 must be posted here too, not only in the Patterns Game Results thread.

it has been -- 8 posts back
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Postby JPF » Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:25 am

Oops !:(
Thanks.

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Postby JPF » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:49 am

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 . . . | 1 . 2 | . . .
 . . 1 | . 3 . | 4 . .
 . 5 . | 6 . . | . . 2
-------+-------+-------
 . . 3 | . . . | . 7 5
 . . . | . 8 . | . . .
 1 4 . | . . . | 8 . .
-------+-------+-------
 6 . . | . . 5 | . 9 .
 . . 4 | . 1 . | 7 . .
 . . . | 3 . 9 | . . .       ED=9.2/9.2/2.6


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Postby gsf » Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:01 pm

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. . . 7 . 3 . . .
. . 1 . 5 . 7 . .
. 5 . 8 . . . . 3
. . 9 . . . . 7 5
. . . . 3 . . . .
2 1 . . . . 4 . .
8 . . . . 2 . 1 .
. . 4 . 7 . 9 . .
. . . 3 . 6 . . .  ED=6.6/6.6/6.6
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Postby JPF » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:06 pm

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 . . . | 1 . 2 | . . .
 . . 1 | . 3 . | 4 . .
 . 5 . | 6 . . | . . 2
-------+-------+-------
 . . 7 | . . . | . 8 9
 . . . | . 7 . | . . .
 3 4 . | . . . | 7 . .
-------+-------+-------
 7 . . | . . 1 | . 6 .
 . . 4 | . 9 . | 8 . .
 . . . | 5 . 8 | . . .       ED=9.5/9.5/2.6


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