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Re: Re:

Postby ronk » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:02 pm

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champagne wrote:So, the problem could show up again with another puzzle.

what would you suggest regarding that game??

The "bug" is not going to be fixed any time soon, so ... play on.
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Re: Re:

Postby gsf » Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:25 pm

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champagne wrote:I suspect that the floating point is not the problem.

I would more think of an uninitialized data with 2 different initial values.

se is coded in java
wikipedia wrote:Java does not have uninitialized variables. Fields of classes and objects that do not have an explicit initializer and elements of arrays are automatically initialized with the default value for their type (false for boolean, 0 for all numerical types, null for all reference types).[2] Local variables in Java must be definitely assigned to before they are accessed, or it is a compile error.
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Re: Re:

Postby champagne » Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:34 am

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champagne wrote:I suspect that the floating point is not the problem.

I would more think of an uninitialized data with 2 different initial values.

se is coded in java
wikipedia wrote:Java does not have uninitialized variables. Fields of classes and objects that do not have an explicit initializer and elements of arrays are automatically initialized with the default value for their type (false for boolean, 0 for all numerical types, null for all reference types).[2] Local variables in Java must be definitely assigned to before they are accessed, or it is a compile error.



ok that's the rule, but the use of floating point is so simple in that program that it remains for me the simply not credible to have an error due to a floating point routine.

lksudoku would likely have found the reason !!

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Re: Re:

Postby m_b_metcalf » Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:49 am

champagne wrote:ok that's the rule, but the use of floating point is so simple in that program that it remains for me the simply not credible to have an error due to a floating point routine.

Some of us will recall the (in)famous rating 6.69 that gsf managed to correct.

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re: bug

Postby Pat » Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:59 am

champagne wrote:lksudoku would likely have found the reason !!

probably fixed in his version 1.2.3.0
      lksudoku (2010.Oct.22) wrote:The bug is caused due to the uncertain ordering of a HashMap,
      a HashMap in java does not guarantee that the order of the keys will remain the same for every run
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Re: re: bug

Postby ronk » Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:03 am

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Pat wrote:probably fixed in his version 1.2.3.0
      lksudoku (2010.Oct.22) wrote:The bug is caused due to the uncertain ordering of a HashMap,
      a HashMap in java does not guarantee that the order of the keys will remain the same for every run

The current se-mismatch may indeed be due to 'HashMap ordering", but lksudoku's 1.2.3 (FIXED2) yields an ER/EP/ED rating of 10.1/10.1/10.0 rather than the lower 10.1/10.1/9.9 that g.r.emlin gets now. IOW it would be disappointing for the "fix" to arrive at a higher rating.

FWIW lksudoku's latest v1.2.9.0 (FIXED14) yields the same 10.1/10.1/10.0.
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby m_b_metcalf » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:22 pm

by champagne » Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:05 pm

The discussion has so bored g.r.emlin that she's gone to sleep.

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Is g.r.emlin there ???

Postby ronk » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:48 pm

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Re: Patterns Game

Postby gsf » Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:13 pm

m_b_metcalf wrote:
by champagne » Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:05 pm

The discussion has so bored g.r.emlin that she's gone to sleep.

not sure about gender
the referee was running
but I stopped and restarted it just in case it was stuck
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Postby gsf » Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:14 pm

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Re: Patterns Game

Postby champagne » Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:23 pm

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Postby ronk » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:06 pm

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Re: Patterns Game

Postby champagne » Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:56 pm

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another one ??

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Postby ronk » Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:40 pm

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Re: Patterns Game

Postby champagne » Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:46 pm

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