Patterns Game 1.0

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Postby JPF » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:31 pm

Next move :

Code: Select all
 1 . . | . . . | . . 2
 . . . | 3 . 4 | . . .
 . . 2 | . . . | 5 . .
-------+-------+-------
 . 3 . | . 1 . | . 6 .
 . . . | 7 . 8 | . . .
 . 6 . | . 3 . | . 4 .
-------+-------+-------
 . . 8 | . . . | 1 . .
 . . . | 6 . 9 | . . .
 5 . . | . . . | . . 8      ER=9.1


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Postby ravel » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:37 pm

This was quick to my last one for the moment:
Code: Select all
 +-------------------+
 | 1 . . . . . . . 9 |
 | . . . 8 . 5 . . . |
 | . . 4 . . . 2 . . |
 | . 5 . . 1 . . 8 . |
 | . . . 2 . 3 . . . |
 | . 8 . . 4 . . 7 . |
 | . . 9 . . . 4 . . |
 | . . . 7 . 6 . . . |
 | 2 . . . . . . . 3 |
 +-------------------+ ER 9.2
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Postby TTHsieh » Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:24 am

to fill gap.
Code: Select all
1 . . | . . . | . . 9
. . . | 3 . 8 | . . .
. . 4 | . . . | 1 . .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. 8 . | . 2 . | . 3 .
. . . | 6 . 1 | . . .
. 3 . | . 9 . | . 7 .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. . 8 | . . . | 6 . .
. . . | 7 . 5 | . . .
9 . . | . . . | . . 4   ER = 7.0


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Postby ravel » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:48 am

Very nice puzzle with x-,xy-wings,strong links, UR and 2 of my new favorite semi-remote naked pairs (also y-wing or W-wing) - if you ignore the 7.0 bidirectional cycle.
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Postby TTHsieh » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:06 pm

to fill another gap, it's not easy.
Code: Select all
1 . . | . . . | . . 9
. . . | 9 . 3 | . . .
. . 6 | . . . | 2 . .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. 9 . | . 7 . | . 5 .
. . . | 2 . 4 | . . .
. 3 . | . 1 . | . 7 .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. . 2 | . . . | 6 . .
. . . | 3 . 7 | . . .
4 . . | . . . | . . 1   ER = 8.7


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Postby TTHsieh » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:14 am

any other ER? I can't find any more. Here is my collection (25,936 puzzles) and analysis.
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1.5 = 2299,  8.86%      7.0 =    3,  0.01%
1.7 =   39,  0.15%      7.1 = 2728, 10.52%
2.0 = 1891,  7.29%      7.2 = 2084,  8.04%
2.3 =  564,  2.17%      7.3 = 1258,  4.85%
2.5 =  172,  0.66%      7.4 =  144,  0.56%
2.6 =  634,  2.44%      7.6 =   10,  0.04%
2.8 =  344,  1.33%      7.7 =   71,  0.27%
3.0 =   45,  0.17%      7.8 =  305,  1.18%
3.2 =  191,  0.74%      8.2 =   61,  0.24%
3.4 =  283,  1.09%      8.3 = 1504,  5.80%
3.6 =   10,  0.04%      8.4 = 2469,  9.52%
4.2 =  172,  0.66%      8.5 = 1095,  4.22%
4.4 = 1140,  4.40%      8.6 =  298,  1.15%
4.5 =  554,  2.14%      8.7 =    3,  0.01%
4.6 =   45,  0.17%      8.8 =   66,  0.25%
5.6 =   34,  0.13%      8.9 =  803,  3.10%
6.6 = 1692,  6.52%      9.0 = 1741,  6.71%
6.7 =  466,  1.80%      9.1 =  308,  1.19%
6.8 =  201,  0.77%      9.2 =  209,  0.81%   Total 25,936
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Postby ravel » Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:51 am

Impressive work.

Note that - due to the strong symmetries - only 1284 of the puzzles are non isomorphic. Since the evaluation of the ER ratings is very slow, i use gsf's program to canonicalize them (see here) and sort and uniq to remove duplicates, before i evaluate the ratings. But i dont have an easy way to reconstruct one original to all non isomorphic puzzles (if i need one, i just look for the first line number, where it appears in the canonicalized file).

I did not find any puzzles with new rating. Over the weekend i had 636, but ratings 7.6 and 8.7 are still missing in my collection.

This is my proposal for the new challenge (but there are some hours left for JPF's).
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 +-------------------+
 | . . . . . . . . 3 |
 | . 4 5 . . . . 9 . |
 | 7 . . 8 . . 2 . . |
 | . 3 7 . . 6 . . . |
 | . . . . . . . . . |
 | . . . 2 . . 1 5 . |
 | . . 1 . . 7 . . 5 |
 | . 6 . . . . 8 1 . |
 | 2 . . . . . . . . |
 +-------------------+ ER 1.5
I hope, its not too hard to make some progress.
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Postby JPF » Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:08 am

ravel wrote:Impressive work.

Note that - due to the strong symmetries - only 1284 of the puzzles are non isomorphic.

It's exactly what i was about to post.
I got the same ratings, except ER=7.0:(
Interesting to note that the maximum (9.2 ?) is easy to get, while much easier ones, like 7.0, need a lot of work.

ravel, it's OK for the new challenge.

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Postby ronk » Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:23 am

ravel wrote:This is my proposal for the new challenge (but there are some hours left for JPF's).

If anyone has already collected the submissions to JPF's challenge in line format, would you please post the collection?

TIA, Ron
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Postby TTHsieh » Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:47 pm

In order to speed up the game's tempo, I suggested changes the rule:
original rule from JPF wrote:nobody can post more than 5 puzzles within one week.

change to wrote:nobody can post more than 10 puzzles within one week.

Here is my post.
Code: Select all
. . . | . . . | . . 9
. 6 4 | . . . | . 5 .
7 . . | 8 . . | 4 . .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. 9 7 | . . 3 | . . .
. . . | . . . | . . .
. . . | 5 . . | 1 6 .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. . 2 | . . 7 | . . 4
. 3 . | . . . | 8 1 .
5 . . | . . . | . . .  ER = 3.0


to fill the gap.
Code: Select all
. . . | . . . | . . 9
. 5 7 | . . . | . 1 .
4 . . | 8 . . | 2 . .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. 1 4 | . . 9 | . . .
. . . | . . . | . . .
. . . | 2 . . | 6 7 .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. . 2 | . . 4 | . . 7
. 9 . | . . . | 8 5 .
6 . . | . . . | . . .  ER = 1.2

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Postby ravel » Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:28 pm

Whats the difference between 1.0, 1,2 and 1.5 (all have hidden singles only) ?

Ooh, this already is very quick. Some for the gap:
Code: Select all
 +-------------------+
 | . . . . . . . . 5 |
 | . 5 7 . . . . 4 . |
 | 1 . . 2 . . 3 . . |
 | . 4 6 . . 5 . . . |
 | . . . . . . . . . |
 | . . . 3 . . 2 1 . |
 | . . 9 . . 7 . . 4 |
 | . 6 . . . . 1 8 . |
 | 7 . . . . . . . . |
 +-------------------+ ER 1.7
 +-------------------+
 | . . . . . . . . 5 |
 | . 6 7 . . . . 4 . |
 | 1 . . 2 . . 3 . . |
 | . 5 6 . . 3 . . . |
 | . . . . . . . . . |
 | . . . 8 . . 1 9 . |
 | . . 4 . . 7 . . 6 |
 | . 8 . . . . 2 1 . |
 | 9 . . . . . . . . |
 +-------------------+ ER 2.0
 +-------------------+
 | . . . . . . . . 5 |
 | . 8 7 . . . . 4 . |
 | 1 . . 2 . . 3 . . |
 | . 9 4 . . 5 . . . |
 | . . . . . . . . . |
 | . . . 3 . . 6 1 . |
 | . . 5 . . 4 . . 9 |
 | . 1 . . . . 2 7 . |
 | 2 . . . . . . . . |
 +-------------------+ ER 2.3
 +-------------------+
 | . . . . . . . . 5 |
 | . 8 5 . . . . 4 . |
 | 1 . . 2 . . 3 . . |
 | . 6 8 . . 5 . . . |
 | . . . . . . . . . |
 | . . . 4 . . 2 1 . |
 | . . 9 . . 6 . . 8 |
 | . 5 . . . . 1 9 . |
 | 3 . . . . . . . . |
 +-------------------+ ER 2.6
And a next one.
Code: Select all
 +-------------------+
 | . . . . . . . . 5 |
 | . 9 8 . . . . 4 . |
 | 1 . . 2 . . 3 . . |
 | . 5 9 . . 6 . . . |
 | . . . . . . . . . |
 | . . . 4 . . 1 2 . |
 | . . 5 . . 7 . . 9 |
 | . 6 . . . . 4 1 . |
 | 4 . . . . . . . . |
 +-------------------+ ER 3.4
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Postby TTHsieh » Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:33 pm

my new post.
Code: Select all
. . . | . . . | . . 9
. 5 7 | . . . | . 4 .
4 . . | 3 . . | 2 . .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. 9 4 | . . 5 | . . .
. . . | . . . | . . .
. . . | 2 . . | 8 7 .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. . 5 | . . 4 | . . 7
. 1 . | . . . | 3 2 .
2 . . | . . . | . . .  ER = 4.6



and fill the gap.
Code: Select all
. . . | . . . | . . 9
. 6 4 | . . . | . 5 .
7 . . | 8 . . | 4 . .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. 9 7 | . . 3 | . . .
. . . | . . . | . . .
. . . | 5 . . | 1 6 .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. . 2 | . . 7 | . . 4
. 3 . | . . . | 8 1 .
5 . . | . . . | . . .  ER = 3.0


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Postby JPF » Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:28 pm

only to fill in the gaps :

Code: Select all
 *-----------*
 |...|...|..1|
 |.23|...|.4.|
 |5..|6..|2..|
 |---+---+---|
 |.37|..4|...|
 |...|...|...|
 |...|8..|65.|
 |---+---+---|
 |..9|..7|..3|
 |.4.|...|91.|
 |1..|...|...|
 *-----------*    ER=2.5

 *-----------*
 |...|...|..1|
 |.23|...|.4.|
 |5..|6..|2..|
 |---+---+---|
 |.71|..8|...|
 |...|...|...|
 |...|3..|65.|
 |---+---+---|
 |..9|..1|..7|
 |.3.|...|59.|
 |2..|...|...|
 *-----------*    ER=2.8

 *-----------*
 |...|...|..1|
 |.23|...|.4.|
 |5..|1..|6..|
 |---+---+---|
 |.37|..8|...|
 |...|...|...|
 |...|6..|15.|
 |---+---+---|
 |..5|..7|..3|
 |.8.|...|29.|
 |2..|...|...|
 *-----------*    ER=3.2

 *-----------*
 |...|...|..1|
 |.23|...|.4.|
 |4..|5..|2..|
 |---+---+---|
 |.36|..7|...|
 |...|...|...|
 |...|4..|52.|
 |---+---+---|
 |..8|..6|..3|
 |.1.|...|78.|
 |5..|...|...|
 *-----------*    ER=4.2

 *-----------*
 |...|...|..1|
 |.23|...|.4.|
 |5..|6..|7..|
 |---+---+---|
 |.38|..9|...|
 |...|...|...|
 |...|4..|65.|
 |---+---+---|
 |..6|..8|..3|
 |.9.|...|12.|
 |2..|...|...|
 *-----------*    ER=4.4

 *-----------*
 |...|...|..1|
 |.23|...|.4.|
 |5..|2..|6..|
 |---+---+---|
 |.37|..8|...|
 |...|...|...|
 |...|1..|25.|
 |---+---+---|
 |..8|..7|..3|
 |.4.|...|18.|
 |6..|...|...|
 *-----------*    ER=4.5



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Postby TTHsieh » Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:28 am

also to fill in the gaps :
Code: Select all
. . . | . . . | . . 9
. 4 7 | . . . | . 5 .
6 . . | 8 . . | 3 . .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. 7 1 | . . 5 | . . .
. . . | . . . | . . .
. . . | 3 . . | 4 6 .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. . 5 | . . 1 | . . 7
. 8 . | . . . | 2 9 .
4 . . | . . . | . . .  ER = 3.6


. . . | . . . | . . 9
. 5 7 | . . . | . 2 .
6 . . | 8 . . | 5 . .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. 7 1 | . . 4 | . . .
. . . | . . . | . . .
. . . | 5 . . | 2 6 .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. . 9 | . . 1 | . . 7
. 8 . | . . . | 6 3 .
5 . . | . . . | . . .  ER = 3.8



another new post.
Code: Select all
. . . | . . . | . . 9
. 4 5 | . . . | . 1 .
8 . . | 3 . . | 2 . .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. 9 1 | . . 4 | . . .
. . . | . . . | . . .
. . . | 8 . . | 3 7 .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. . 2 | . . 9 | . . 1
. 7 . | . . . | 8 3 .
4 . . | . . . | . . .  ER = 5.6

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Postby JPF » Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:19 pm

Difficult to find something between 4.6 and 5.6:(

Here is an other 5.6 :
Code: Select all
 *-----------*
 |...|...|..1|
 |.23|...|.4.|
 |5..|6..|7..|
 |---+---+---|
 |.14|..3|...|
 |...|...|...|
 |...|5..|68.|
 |---+---+---|
 |..1|..2|..4|
 |.9.|...|57.|
 |7..|...|...|
 *-----------*    ER=5.6


Next proposed move :
Code: Select all
 . . . | . . . | . . 1
 . 2 3 | . . . | . 4 .
 5 . . | 6 . . | 2 . .
-------+-------+-------
 . 7 1 | . . 4 | . . .
 . . . | . . . | . . .
 . . . | 2 . . | 6 5 .
-------+-------+-------
 . . 4 | . . 8 | . . 3
 . 9 . | . . . | 5 7 .
 7 . . | . . . | . . .    ER=5.7


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