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Postby JPF » Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:17 pm

Code: Select all
 1 . . | . . . | . . 2
 . . . | 3 . 4 | . . .
 . . 5 | . . . | 1 . .
-------+-------+-------
 . 3 . | . 6 . | . 7 .
 . . . | 2 . 5 | . . .
 . 7 . | . 8 . | . 9 .
-------+-------+-------
 . . 6 | . . . | 8 . .
 . . . | 7 . 9 | . . .
 2 . . | . . . | . . 5     ER=6.6


I got no puzzle with 4.6<ER<5.6 and 5.6<ER<6.6

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Postby re'born » Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:36 pm

Mauricio wrote:Let chains begin.
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1 . .|. . .|. . 2
. . .|3 . 4|. . .
. . 2|. . .|5 . .
-----+-----+-----
. 3 .|. 1 .|. 6 .
. . .|2 . 7|. . .
. 8 .|. 5 .|. 4 .
-----+-----+-----
. . 5|. . .|1 . .
. . .|9 . 3|. . .
4 . .|. . .|. . 7     ER 5.6


This should qualify for one of those effortless extreme threads, or the like. It reduces painlessly to a BUG+3 grid (well, if you consider naked quads painless), at which point it is easy to see that r1c3<>3, solving the puzzle. Nicely done, Mauricio.
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Postby Mauricio » Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:46 pm

re'born wrote:This should qualify for one of those effortless extreme threads, or the like. It reduces painlessly to a BUG+3 grid (well, if you consider naked quads painless), at which point it is easy to see that r1c3<>3, solving the puzzle. Nicely done, Mauricio.


Thanks, re'born.
Code: Select all
1 . .|. . .|. . 2
. . .|3 . 4|. . .
. . 2|. . .|5 . .
-----+-----+-----
. 3 .|. 1 .|. 6 .
. . .|5 . 2|. . .
. 7 .|. 4 .|. 3 .
-----+-----+-----
. . 8|. . .|9 . .
. . .|7 . 6|. . .
5 . .|. . .|. . 1      ER 6.7
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Postby ab » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:08 pm

here's a 7.1:
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 3 . . | . . . | . . 6
 . . . | 8 . 1 | . . .
 . . 9 | . . . | 8 . .
 ------+-------+------
 . 7 . | . 9 . | . 5 .
 . . . | 6 . 2 | . . .
 . 8 . | . 3 . | . 7 .
 ------+-------+------
 . . 2 | . . . | 1 . .
 . . . | 3 . 5 | . . .
 9 . . | . . . | . . 2


and to fill in the gaps a 6.6:
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 1 . . | . . . | . . 5
 . . . | 9 . 7 | . . .
 . . 3 | . . . | 4 . .
 ------+-------+------
 . 9 . | . 8 . | . 4 .
 . . . | 6 . 2 | . . .
 . 7 . | . 5 . | . 3 .
 ------+-------+------
 . . 1 | . . . | 8 . .
 . . . | 4 . 8 | . . .
 5 . . | . . . | . . 1


I do have a 7.2 but i think JPF should be given a chance to post it:!:
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Postby JPF » Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:53 am

ab wrote:here's a 7.1 ...
and to fill in the gaps a 6.6 ...
I do have a 7.2 but i think JPF should be given a chance to post it:!:

Thanks ab, here is my 7.2, as agreed:)

Code: Select all
 1 . . | . . . | . . 2
 . . . | 3 . 4 | . . .
 . . 5 | . . . | 6 . .
-------+-------+-------
 . 3 . | . 2 . | . 7 .
 . . . | 8 . 6 | . . .
 . 4 . | . 1 . | . 8 .
-------+-------+-------
 . . 6 | . . . | 1 . .
 . . . | 7 . 3 | . . .
 8 . . | . . . | . . 5     ER=7.2


but :
1. a 6.6 has already been posted
2. what about this wonderful 6.8 ?
Code: Select all
 +-----------+
 |1..|...|..2|
 |...|3.4|...|
 |..5|...|6..|
 |---+---+---|
 |.7.|.6.|.8.|
 |...|1.5|...|
 |.8.|.9.|.4.|
 |---+---+---|
 |..3|...|5..|
 |...|8.7|...|
 |6..|...|..1|
 +-----------+        ER=6.8

ab, I can't resist giving you this 24 steps inferior puzzle
Code: Select all
 +-----------+
 |1..|...|..2|
 |...|3.2|...|
 |..4|...|5..|
 |---+---+---|
 |.6.|.4.|.3.|
 |...|7.8|...|
 |.9.|.1.|.7.|
 |---+---+---|
 |..8|...|4..|
 |...|6.9|...|
 |2..|...|..1|
 +-----------+
2,1,1,1,3,3,2,1,3,4,1,2,1,1,2,4,3,3,2,3,4,6,4,4

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Postby ab » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:08 pm

hmm not what i expected! the reason I deferred to you JPF was that my 7.2 was directly derived from your 4.2 puzzle by changing one clue:
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1.......2
...3.4...
..4...5..
.9..6..7.
...8.2...
.3..1..4.
..8...6..
...7.3...
2.......8

You can also switch the 9 and 5 in r4c3 and r3c7 for another 7.2.
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Postby JPF » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:14 pm

ab wrote:hmm not what i expected!
Sorry for that:)

a bit less easy :
Code: Select all
 1 . . | . . . | . . 2
 . . . | 3 . 4 | . . .
 . . 5 | . . . | 6 . .
-------+-------+-------
 . 3 . | . 5 . | . 7 .
 . . . | 1 . 6 | . . .
 . 7 . | . 2 . | . 4 .
-------+-------+-------
 . . 2 | . . . | 5 . .
 . . . | 7 . 8 | . . .
 6 . . | . . . | . . 9       ER=7.3


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Postby ravel » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:37 am

Have nothing for the gap:
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 +-------------------+
 | 3 . . . . . . . 9 |
 | . . . 8 . 5 . . . |
 | . . 2 . . . 4 . . |
 | . 5 . . 1 . . 8 . |
 | . . . 2 . 3 . . . |
 | . 8 . . 4 . . 7 . |
 | . . 1 . . . 3 . . |
 | . . . 7 . 6 . . . |
 | 6 . . . . . . . 4 |
 +-------------------+ ER 7.8
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Postby JPF » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:46 pm

ravel wrote:Have nothing for the gap

to fill the gap (except 7.5) :
Code: Select all
 +-----------+
 |1..|...|..2|
 |...|3.4|...|
 |..5|...|6..|
 |---+---+---|
 |.4.|.5.|.7.|
 |...|2.1|...|
 |.7.|.6.|.8.|
 |---+---+---|
 |..3|...|5..|
 |...|7.8|...|
 |6..|...|..1|
 +-----------+     ER=7.4

 +-----------+
 |1..|...|..2|
 |...|3.4|...|
 |..5|...|6..|
 |---+---+---|
 |.7.|.6.|.3.|
 |...|8.3|...|
 |.2.|.5.|.9.|
 |---+---+---|
 |..8|...|5..|
 |...|2.6|...|
 |6..|...|..8|
 +-----------+     ER=7.6

 +-----------+
 |1..|...|..2|
 |...|3.4|...|
 |..5|...|6..|
 |---+---+---|
 |.3.|.4.|.7.|
 |...|6.1|...|
 |.8.|.5.|.9.|
 |---+---+---|
 |..2|...|5..|
 |...|7.9|...|
 |4..|...|..1|
 +-----------+     ER=7.7
 

an other gap :
Code: Select all
 1 . . | . . . | . . 2
 . . . | 3 . 4 | . . .
 . . 5 | . . . | 6 . .
-------+-------+-------
 . 7 . | . 6 . | . 4 .
 . . . | 8 . 9 | . . .
 . 2 . | . 5 . | . 7 .
-------+-------+-------
 . . 8 | . . . | 5 . .
 . . . | 2 . 7 | . . .
 6 . . | . . . | . . 8     ER=8.2


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Postby ravel » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:14 am

Code: Select all
 +-------------------+
 | 1 . . . . . . . 9 |
 | . . . 8 . 5 . . . |
 | . . 9 . . . 3 . . |
 | . 5 . . 1 . . 8 . |
 | . . . 2 . 3 . . . |
 | . 8 . . 4 . . 7 . |
 | . . 3 . . . 2 . . |
 | . . . 7 . 6 . . . |
 | 4 . . . . . . . 1 |
 +-------------------+ ER 8.3
The next one should be easier, no one to join in ?
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Postby JPF » Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:22 pm

ravel wrote:The next one should be easier, no one to join in ?

really easy:)
Code: Select all
 1 . . | . . . | . . 2
 . . . | 3 . 4 | . . .
 . . 5 | . . . | 6 . .
-------+-------+-------
 . 7 . | . 2 . | . 4 .
 . . . | 1 . 6 | . . .
 . 8 . | . 5 . | . 9 .
-------+-------+-------
 . . 3 | . . . | 5 . .
 . . . | 8 . 7 | . . .
 2 . . | . . . | . . 1    ER=8.4


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Postby TTHsieh » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:30 am

Code: Select all
1 . . | . . . | . . 9
. . . | 7 . 8 | . . .
. . 6 | . . . | 4 . .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. 3 . | . 6 . | . 7 .
. . . | 1 . 4 | . . .
. 7 . | . 9 . | . 5 .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. . 4 | . . . | 6 . .
. . . | 2 . 5 | . . .
9 . . | . . . | . . 8   ER = 8.5

1 . . | . . . | . . 9
. . . | 3 . 8 | . . .
. . 4 | . . . | 2 . .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. 8 . | . 1 . | . 3 .
. . . | 6 . 2 | . . .
. 3 . | . 4 . | . 7 .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. . 2 | . . . | 6 . .
. . . | 7 . 5 | . . .
9 . . | . . . | . . 4   ER = 8.6


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Postby JPF » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:56 am

TTHsieh wrote:
Code: Select all
1 . . | . . . | . . 9
. . . | 7 . 8 | . . .
. . 6 | . . . | 4 . .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. 3 . | . 6 . | . 7 .
. . . | 1 . 4 | . . .
. 7 . | . 9 . | . 5 .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. . 4 | . . . | 6 . .
. . . | 2 . 5 | . . .
9 . . | . . . | . . 8   ER = 8.5

1 . . | . . . | . . 9
. . . | 3 . 8 | . . .
. . 4 | . . . | 2 . .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. 8 . | . 1 . | . 3 .
. . . | 6 . 2 | . . .
. 3 . | . 4 . | . 7 .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. . 2 | . . . | 6 . .
. . . | 7 . 5 | . . .
9 . . | . . . | . . 4   ER = 8.6

Welcome to the forum TTHsieh
Nice first post !

making a gap, again :

Code: Select all
 1 . . | . . . | . . 2
 . . . | 2 . 3 | . . .
 . . 4 | . . . | 5 . .
-------+-------+-------
 . 6 . | . 7 . | . 3 .
 . . . | 5 . 8 | . . .
 . 9 . | . 1 . | . 6 .
-------+-------+-------
 . . 5 | . . . | 7 . .
 . . . | 9 . 6 | . . .
 8 . . | . . . | . . 1    ER=8.8


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Postby ravel » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:34 am

Nice to see a new player, TTHsieh.

The next one i have, but it seems that i have to search for more soon.
Code: Select all
 +-------------------+
 | 4 . . . . . . . 9 |
 | . . . 8 . 5 . . . |
 | . . 1 . . . 3 . . |
 | . 5 . . 1 . . 8 . |
 | . . . 2 . 3 . . . |
 | . 6 . . 4 . . 7 . |
 | . . 3 . . . 8 . . |
 | . . . 5 . 7 . . . |
 | 9 . . . . . . . 4 |
 +-------------------+ ER 8.9
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Postby TTHsieh » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:11 pm

Thanks, my 2nd post.
Code: Select all
1 . . | . . . | . . 9
. . . | 3 . 8 | . . .
. . 6 | . . . | 4 . .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. 8 . | . 6 . | . 3 .
. . . | 1 . 4 | . . .
. 3 . | . 9 . | . 7 .
- - - + - - - + - - -
. . 4 | . . . | 1 . .
. . . | 7 . 5 | . . .
9 . . | . . . | . . 2   ER = 9.0


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