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[RW]

Got it! The answer must be 4!

Well done! That is correct!!

Looking backwards from the post where I posted the riddle, the previous posters in this thread were udosuk, JPF, RW, coloin, Bigtone53, JPF, ... The numbers correspond to the posters' position on the memberlist of the forums, sorted by total posts.

Your turn udosuk!

RW

[JPF]

Got it! The answer must be 4!

Well done! That is correct!!

Congrats udosuk
I have a feeling of deja vu

JPF

[RW]

I have a feeling of deja vu

JPF

Heh, I was a bit short on inspiration and decided to recycle an old concept in a new adaptation... The number sequence was so beautiful I just had to use it!

For those who don't know, the clue to look for in the past was this riddle that should lead you on the right track... Of course, I understand that new members couldn't know about that riddle and thus suffer a severe disadvantage, so I'll try to avoid riddles like this in the future!

RW

[udosuk]

I probably had too much of an advantage there, considering I was the last one to post a riddle along that line!

A short and quick one to pass the baton to the next great riddler:

Which is the odd one out of the following 4:

Canterbury
Liverpool
Manchester
Newcastle

[Glyn]

Canterbury has just one cathedral.

[tarek]

Bury, Lancashire
Pool, Yorkshire or Poole, Dorset
Chester, Cheshire
Castle, ???

tarek

[JPF]

Manchester is the only city not in the state of New South Wales, Australia

JPF

[udosuk]

This situation leaves me speechless. Anyone else?

A piece of irrelevance to the riddle:

The prefix of the 4 names can form these sentences:

New man can live.

- or -

Man can't live new.

- or -

Man, new liver can!

[tarek]

We had to answer in this fashion because a Football related answer would be too obvious

tarek

[udosuk]

We had to answer in this fashion because a Football related answer would be too obvious

But even a football related answer can't be unique...

It can be either the only place without a team in the Premier League or the only place with 2 teams in the Premier League or the only place with a team which has won the Premier League championship (in its current format).

So it's not the obvious football related answer that you think...

[Bigtone53]

We had to answer in this fashion because a Football related answer would be too obvious

Not United / City? Come on!

Are we in the world of county towns? Despite being the oldest substantial town in Kent, Canterbury is not the country town of Kent.

[tarek]

How about demonyms & therefore Newcastle would be out

tarek

[Glyn]

Another go.

Canterbury Crusaders(NZ) are Rugby Union Fooball Super-14 champions.
Manchester United have just clinched the Premiership title in England.
Newcastle United Jets FC are reigning A-League soccer champions in Australia.

Odd one out Liverpool

[udosuk]

Odd one out Liverpool

Okay don't want to drag this on too much so I'll declare Glyn the winner for getting the answer in my mind, albeit for the wrong reasons.

Canterbury Crusaders won the championship in 2006, last year's champion were the Pretoria Bulls of South Africa. This year the Crusaders finished the regular season as the #1 seed, but I surely don't want to see them winning it all in the playoffs at the expense of my local team, the NSW Waratahs who finished #2 in the ladder.

And don't forget Liverpool FC did win the UEFA Champions League in 2005 which can surely parry the Crusaders' Super 14 title.

If you consider the places/cities you are likely to find heaps of reasons for each of them to be exceptional. So instead I focus on the names themselves.

Reason 1: I said "odd one out". Each of these words start with an 'o'. Liverpool is the only name with o's in it.

Reason 2: Liverpool is the only name with double letters ("oo").

Reason 3: Liverpool is the only name with 4 vowel letters while all other three have 3.

Reason 4: Liverpool is the only name which starts and ends with the same letter.

Reason 5: If you get rid of all the common letters (letters which appear in 2 or more names) you're left with:

buy
ivpoo
mh
w

ivpoo is obviously standing out.

Reason 6: Liverpool is the only name which when spelt in reverse has a decent pronunciation (google "looprevil" and see how many hits there are).

How about demonyms & therefore Newcastle would be out

From this page:

Liverpool -> Liverpudlian
Manchester -> Mancunian
Newcastle -> Novocastrian

And I don't rule out "Canterbury -> Canterburian" so not much conclusion from there.

Glyn, over to you.

PS: As a matter of fact I'm not a Liverpool FC fan. I support Chelsea and wish them stop Man U winning the double this Wednesday. Go Chelsea!

[tarek]

Liverpool -> Liverpudlian
Manchester -> Mancunian
Newcastle -> Novocastrian

And I don't rule out "Canterbury -> Canterburian" so not much conclusion from there.

It's Cantabrian....
3 adjectives share the exact 1st syllable with the city except the beloved Novocastrians (Geordies).

tarek