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by **gsf** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:26 pm

::: comment :::

Pat wrote:hey g.r.emlin, when you announce a "rarity", you're still expected to update the status (in the other Topic)

ouch
there is a minimum time between posts imposed by the forum
the referee will have to queue up the rarities ...

by **JPF** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:07 pm

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These rarity bonuses for any x/y/z don't make any sense.
Who cares about a rating like 7.2/4.5/2.6 ?

The game is becoming a kind of lottery.

JPF

by **gsf** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:18 pm

JPF wrote:::: comment :::

These rarity bonuses for any x/y/z don't make any sense.
Who cares about a rating like 7.2/4.5/2.6 ?

The game is becoming a kind of lottery.

JPF

ok, i (we) don't want that to happen

I didn't expect the retooling to be perfect
but some was required because for past retoolings
either the high rollers or the low rollers were not having fun

lets let this game play out and then weed out the bad parts
I don't know of any better way to tweak than to do it with a live game

also, I though one of the (possibly hidden) goals of the game was to
produce a rich catalog of ER/RP/ED ratings
without some form of recognition some of the rare ones may never get played
hopefully the solution here will be to simply lower the rarity bonus

by **gsf** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:20 pm

Code: Select all: . 6 . . . . . 1 . . 4 . 5 . 7 . 8 . 3 . 5 . . . 7 . 2 . . . 9 . 8 . . . . . 8 . . . 4 . . . . . 7 . 6 . . . 1 . 3 . . . 6 . 9 . 9 . 1 . 3 . 2 . . 2 . . . . . 3 . ED=9.1/9.1/2.6

by **m_b_metcalf** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:25 pm

Code: Select all: . 1 . . . . . 2 . . 3 . 4 . 5 . 6 . 7 . 5 . . . 4 . 3 . . . 5 . 8 . . . . . 8 . . . 6 . . . . . 9 . 7 . . . 2 . 3 . . . 1 . 6 . 6 . 2 . 1 . 8 . . 9 . . . . . 5 . ED=9.0/9.0/2.6

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

by **gsf** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:59 pm

::: comment :::
the human puzzle cache is exhausted
so this game is from g.r.emlin's machine generated cache
and it doesn't look like its algorithm is good for diamonds
time for some more dealer submissions ...

by **gsf** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:04 pm

Code: Select all: . 6 . . . . . 2 . . 4 . 5 . 7 . 8 . 7 . 3 . . . 5 . 1 . . . 7 . 8 . . . . . 6 . . . 4 . . . . . 9 . 6 . . . 1 . 2 . . . 6 . 9 . 9 . 2 . 1 . 5 . . 3 . . . . . 1 . ED=9.2/9.2/2.6

by **m_b_metcalf** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:27 pm

Code: Select all: . 1 . . . . . 2 . . 3 . 4 . 5 . 6 . 7 . 4 . . . 5 . 8 . . . 2 . 1 . . . . . 9 . . . 7 . . . . . 3 . 7 . . . 4 . 1 . . . 6 . 3 . 2 . 6 . 3 . 4 . . 5 . . . . . 7 . ED=8.9/8.9/2.6

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

by **gsf** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:49 pm

Code: Select all: . 6 . . . . . 9 . . 4 . 5 . 7 . 8 . 3 . 8 . . . 4 . 5 . . . 3 . 2 . . . . . 2 . . . 1 . . . . . 7 . 4 . . . 9 . 7 . . . 6 . 8 . 8 . 9 . 5 . 4 . . 2 . . . . . 3 . ED=8.8/8.8/2.6

by **m_b_metcalf** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:56 pm

Code: Select all: . 1 . . . . . 2 . . 3 . 4 . 5 . 6 . 6 . 5 . . . 7 . 3 . . . 6 . 2 . . . . . 8 . . . 6 . . . . . 9 . 3 . . . 7 . 3 . . . 2 . 4 . 5 . 8 . 7 . 1 . . 9 . . . . . 7 . ED=8.7/8.7/2.6

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

by **gsf** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:33 pm

Code: Select all: . 6 . . . . . 1 . . 4 . 5 . 7 . 8 . 3 . 5 . . . 7 . 2 . . . 7 . 4 . . . . . 8 . . . 6 . . . . . 9 . 6 . . . 5 . 3 . . . 1 . 9 . 9 . 1 . 3 . 2 . . 2 . . . . . 3 . ED=8.5/8.5/2.6

by **JPF** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:23 pm

Code: Select all: . 1 . | . . . | . 2 . . 3 . | 4 . 5 | . 6 . 6 . 7 | . . . | 8 . 5 -------+-------+------- . . . | 1 . 3 | . . . . . 4 | . . . | 6 . . . . . | 6 . 2 | . . . -------+-------+------- 9 . 1 | . . . | 5 . 3 . 2 . | 3 . 4 | . 9 . . 7 . | . . . | . 8 . ED=8.3/8.3/2.6

JPF

by **gsf** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:24 pm

Code: Select all: . 6 . . . . . 5 . . 4 . 5 . 7 . 8 . 5 . 8 . . . 4 . 9 . . . 3 . 2 . . . . . 1 . . . 7 . . . . . 4 . 5 . . . 2 . 6 . . . 3 . 8 . 8 . 6 . 3 . 2 . . 3 . . . . . 9 . ED=8.4/8.4/2.6

by **g.r.emlin** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:29 pm

::: game 0090 status LIGHTNING 2009-09-17+18:29:07-0000 :::

Code: Select all: game 0090 2009-09-16+23:00:00-0000 LIGHTNING duration 19h24m dealer g.r.emlin pages 297-299 (open) 3 players ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 1.2/1.2/1.2 gsf 2.8/2.8/2.8 gsf 8.4/8.4/2.6 gsf 9.0/9.0/2.6 m_b_metcalf 1.5/1.5/1.5 gsf 6.9/2.8/2.6 m_b_metcalf 8.5/8.5/2.6 gsf 9.1/9.1/2.6 gsf 2.0/2.0/2.0 JPF 7.1/3.0/2.6 m_b_metcalf 8.7/8.7/2.6 m_b_metcalf 9.2/9.2/2.6 gsf 2.3/2.3/2.3 gsf 7.2/4.5/2.6 m_b_metcalf 8.8/8.8/2.6 gsf 2.6/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf 8.3/8.3/2.6 JPF 8.9/8.9/2.6 m_b_metcalf ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ open ratings : 1.7 2.5 3.0 3.2 3.4 3.6 3.8 4.0 4.2 4.4-5.2 5.4 5.6-6.2 6.5-6.8 7.0 7.3-8.2 8.6 9.3-11.4 submitter entries score response notes ----------- ------- ----- -------- ----- JPF 2 58 2h03m pearl gsf 9 720 56m45s diamond,pearl*5,highest-rating=269,last-entry=127 m_b_metcalf 7 2161 50m44s rare-0*3,diamond,pearl*3 ----------- ------- ----- ----- 3 18 2939 rare-0*3,diamond*2,pearl*9

by **JPF** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:32 pm

Code: Select all: . 1 . | . . . | . 2 . . 3 . | 4 . 5 | . 1 . 6 . 7 | . . . | 8 . 4 -------+-------+------- . . . | 3 . 4 | . . . . . 9 | . . . | 2 . . . . . | 6 . 2 | . . . -------+-------+------- 2 . 3 | . . . | 1 . 8 . 4 . | 7 . 8 | . 3 . . 9 . | . . . | . 6 . ED=7.2/7.2/2.6

JPF

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