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Re: Patterns Game

Postby dobrichev » Sat May 12, 2018 11:39 am

No, I meant fixes in skfr, mentioned months ago.
Replacement of serate with a version with some bugs fixed is another matter. Maybe an entirely new generation of enthusiasts would manage to do it. I have no hope in reaching consensus now.

For the current game I am searching for 10.7+/*/*. Finding a 10.8+/1.2/1.2 sounds more realistic than a new high diamond.
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby champagne » Sat May 12, 2018 12:44 pm

dobrichev wrote:For the current game I am searching for 10.7+/*/*. Finding a 10.8+/1.2/1.2 sounds more realistic than a new high diamond.

I have 3 10.7/1.2/1.2 in hands, that's it

dobrichev wrote:No, I meant fixes in skfr, mentioned months ago.
Replacement of serate with a version with some bugs fixed is another matter. Maybe an entirely new generation of enthusiasts would manage to do it. I have no hope in reaching consensus now.


Oh I see.

I am convinced that nobody will change serate. I never tried to make changes in skfr either, but I changed my own solver to have it "in the mood of Sudoku Explainer". So I use first another clone of serate, faster than skfr and with special features fitting with the game needs (in the way I play).

Recently I started a reshaping of this new solver piling the experience of my recent work on the 17 clues search, but I am still in the low ratings (6.2 and below), I could reach this year something that I could share.
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby dobrichev » Sat May 12, 2018 1:12 pm

OK, then I misunderstood some your message regarding skfr.

Below is the count of my puzzles with serate 10+ from this game. Not all skfr 10.4 are passed trough serate.
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      2 10.0/10.0/9.8
      2 10.0/10.0/9.9
      2 10.0/10.0/10.0
      1 10.2/10.2/9.4
      1 10.2/10.2/9.6
      1 10.2/10.2/9.9
      1 10.2/10.2/10.0
      1 10.3/10.3/9.4
      1 10.3/10.3/9.5
      1 10.3/10.3/9.8
      1 10.3/10.3/9.9
      1 10.3/10.3/10.2
      2 10.3/10.3/10.3
     24 10.4/1.2/1.2
      2 10.4/10.4/3.4
      1 10.4/10.4/6.7
      1 10.4/10.4/7.8
      1 10.4/10.4/8.4
      1 10.4/10.4/9.6
      3 10.4/10.4/9.8
      5 10.4/10.4/9.9
      1 10.4/10.4/10.0
      1 10.4/10.4/10.1
      1 10.4/10.4/10.2
      2 10.4/10.4/10.3
      4 10.4/10.4/10.4
     32 10.5/1.2/1.2
      2 10.5/10.5/2.6
      2 10.5/10.5/6.6
      1 10.5/10.5/7.8
      1 10.5/10.5/8.8
      1 10.5/10.5/9.0
      1 10.5/10.5/9.2
      3 10.5/10.5/9.3
      2 10.5/10.5/9.4
      1 10.5/10.5/9.8
      2 10.5/10.5/9.9
      1 10.5/10.5/10.0
      2 10.5/10.5/10.3
      7 10.5/10.5/10.4
      8 10.5/10.5/10.5
     41 10.6/1.2/1.2
      1 10.6/1.5/1.5
      3 10.6/10.6/2.6
      3 10.6/10.6/6.6
      1 10.6/10.6/7.1
      1 10.6/10.6/7.8
      1 10.6/10.6/8.3
      1 10.6/10.6/8.9
      1 10.6/10.6/9.3
      5 10.6/10.6/9.4
      1 10.6/10.6/9.5
      1 10.6/10.6/9.6
      1 10.6/10.6/9.7
      1 10.6/10.6/9.9
      2 10.6/10.6/10.0
      1 10.6/10.6/10.1
      5 10.6/10.6/10.4
      1 10.6/10.6/10.5
      4 10.6/10.6/10.6
      4 10.7/1.2/1.2
      1 10.7/9.1/7.8
      2 10.7/10.7/3.4
      1 10.7/10.7/7.8
      1 10.7/10.7/9.4
      1 10.7/10.7/9.6
      1 10.7/10.7/10.5
      1 10.7/10.7/10.6
      1 11.1/11.1/10.7
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Postby g.r.emlin » Sat May 12, 2018 1:15 pm

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Re: Patterns Game

Postby champagne » Sat May 12, 2018 1:41 pm

::: comment :::
(to be safe)
difficult to compare the low ratings as I don't rate puzzles expecting to be lower than a known one unless they are in the area of "potential hardest"

my reults in the highest ratings

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9 5 10.6/10.6/9.4
1 1 10.6/10.6/9.5
2 1 10.6/10.6/9.6
2 1 10.6/10.6/9.7
2 1 10.6/10.6/9.9
10 2 10.6/10.6/10.0
0 1 10.6/10.6/10.1
4 5 10.6/10.6/10.4
7 1 10.6/10.6/10.5
6 4 10.6/10.6/10.6
3 4 10.7/1.2/1.2
1 1 10.7/9.1/7.8
2 2 10.7/10.7/3.4
1 0 10.7/10.7/6.6
1 1 10.7/10.7/7.8
1 1 10.7/10.7/9.4
1 1 10.7/10.7/9.6
2 1 10.7/10.7/10.5
1 1 10.7/10.7/10.6
1 1 11.1/11.1/10.7
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby champagne » Sat May 12, 2018 1:52 pm

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....4.5..
..61...7.
4.7.1...8
.3.6..9..
.....8...
.2..3.8..
..9....6.
5..8....9 ED=4.8/2.0/2.0
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby dobrichev » Sat May 12, 2018 6:30 pm

Congratulations for your last submission.
In your table of high rated counts the first column is your count and the second is mine, right?

More from me tomorrow.
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby champagne » Sat May 12, 2018 6:39 pm

yes for the count
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby dobrichev » Sun May 13, 2018 10:18 am

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..26...4.
6.1.7...8
.7.9..1..
.....2...
.3..9.7..
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8..5....6 ED=6.2/6.2/3.8
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Postby g.r.emlin » Mon May 14, 2018 8:18 am

::: game 0312 idle LIGHTNING 2018-05-14+08:18:11-0000 -- with no further entries the game will close at 2018-05-14+11:00:00-0000 :::
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game 0312 2018-05-08+00:00:00-0000 LIGHTNING duration 5d10h dealer papy999 pages 2453-2462 (open) 4 players
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    1.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    4.7/4.7/3.4 dobrichev      7.3/7.3/7.3 dobrichev      9.1/9.1/9.1 m_b_metcalf
    1.5/1.5/1.5 m_b_metcalf    4.8/2.0/2.0 champagne      7.4/7.4/7.4 dobrichev      9.2/9.2/9.2 m_b_metcalf
    1.7/1.5/1.5 m_b_metcalf    5.0/5.0/2.6 dobrichev      7.5/7.5/7.5 dobrichev      9.3/9.3/9.3 m_b_metcalf
    2.0/2.0/2.0 dobrichev      5.2/3.8/3.8 champagne      7.6/7.6/7.6 dobrichev      9.4/9.4/9.4 dobrichev
    2.3/2.3/2.3 m_b_metcalf    5.6/4.5/3.4 champagne      7.7/7.7/7.7 champagne      9.5/9.5/9.5 m_b_metcalf
    2.5/2.5/2.5 m_b_metcalf    5.7/4.5/3.4 dobrichev      7.8/7.8/7.8 m_b_metcalf    9.6/9.6/9.6 dobrichev
    2.6/2.6/2.6 champagne      5.8/3.6/3.6 champagne      7.9/7.9/7.8 dobrichev      9.7/9.7/9.7 dobrichev
    2.8/2.8/2.8 dobrichev      5.9/1.2/1.2 dobrichev      8.0/8.0/7.8 dobrichev      9.8/9.8/9.8 dobrichev
    3.0/3.0/3.0 dobrichev      6.1/1.2/1.2 dobrichev      8.1/7.2/7.1 champagne      9.9/9.9/9.9 dobrichev
    3.2/3.2/3.2 champagne      6.2/6.2/3.8 dobrichev      8.2/8.2/8.2 dobrichev   10.0/10.0/10.0 dobrichev
    3.4/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf    6.5/4.7/2.6 dobrichev      8.3/8.3/8.3 m_b_metcalf 10.1/10.1/10.1 champagne
    3.6/3.6/3.6 m_b_metcalf    6.6/6.6/6.6 m_b_metcalf    8.4/8.4/8.4 dobrichev   10.2/10.2/10.2 champagne
    3.8/3.8/3.8 m_b_metcalf    6.7/6.7/6.7 dobrichev      8.5/8.5/8.5 m_b_metcalf 10.3/10.3/10.3 m_b_metcalf
    4.0/4.0/4.0 dobrichev      6.8/6.8/3.4 champagne      8.6/8.6/8.6 dobrichev   10.4/10.4/10.4 dobrichev
    4.2/4.2/4.2 m_b_metcalf    6.9/6.9/3.0 dobrichev      8.7/8.7/8.7 champagne   10.5/10.5/10.5 m_b_metcalf
    4.4/4.4/4.4 dobrichev      7.0/7.0/7.0 dobrichev      8.8/8.8/8.8 dobrichev   10.6/10.6/10.6 champagne
    4.5/4.5/3.4 m_b_metcalf    7.1/7.1/7.1 m_b_metcalf    8.9/8.9/8.9 dobrichev   10.7/10.7/10.6 champagne
    4.6/4.6/3.4 dobrichev      7.2/7.2/7.2 dobrichev      9.0/9.0/9.0 m_b_metcalf 11.1/11.1/10.7 dobrichev
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    open ratings : 4.9 5.1 5.4 6.0 10.8-11.0 11.2-11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
         papy999        0      0         0  dealer
     m_b_metcalf       22   1630    28m54s  rare-0,diamond*16,pearl,consecutive-entry,se-mismatch
       champagne       14   1774     3h36m  rare-2,diamond*7,pearl*2
       dobrichev       36   4831     1h19m  rare-0,diamond*23,pearl*8,highest-rating=520,last-entry=367,bad-submission,dup-rating
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               4       72   8235            rare-0*2,rare-2,diamond*46,pearl*11
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312 — 4.5

Postby Pat » Mon May 14, 2018 10:42 am

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                      ED=4.5/4.5/3.8
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Postby g.r.emlin » Mon May 14, 2018 10:43 am

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game 0312 2018-05-08+00:00:00-0000 LIGHTNING duration 6d10h dealer papy999 pages 2453-2462 (open) 5 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    4.7/4.7/3.4 dobrichev      7.3/7.3/7.3 dobrichev      9.1/9.1/9.1 m_b_metcalf
    1.5/1.5/1.5 m_b_metcalf    4.8/2.0/2.0 champagne      7.4/7.4/7.4 dobrichev      9.2/9.2/9.2 m_b_metcalf
    1.7/1.5/1.5 m_b_metcalf    5.0/5.0/2.6 dobrichev      7.5/7.5/7.5 dobrichev      9.3/9.3/9.3 m_b_metcalf
    2.0/2.0/2.0 dobrichev      5.2/3.8/3.8 champagne      7.6/7.6/7.6 dobrichev      9.4/9.4/9.4 dobrichev
    2.3/2.3/2.3 m_b_metcalf    5.6/4.5/3.4 champagne      7.7/7.7/7.7 champagne      9.5/9.5/9.5 m_b_metcalf
    2.5/2.5/2.5 m_b_metcalf    5.7/4.5/3.4 dobrichev      7.8/7.8/7.8 m_b_metcalf    9.6/9.6/9.6 dobrichev
    2.6/2.6/2.6 champagne      5.8/3.6/3.6 champagne      7.9/7.9/7.8 dobrichev      9.7/9.7/9.7 dobrichev
    2.8/2.8/2.8 dobrichev      5.9/1.2/1.2 dobrichev      8.0/8.0/7.8 dobrichev      9.8/9.8/9.8 dobrichev
    3.0/3.0/3.0 dobrichev      6.1/1.2/1.2 dobrichev      8.1/7.2/7.1 champagne      9.9/9.9/9.9 dobrichev
    3.2/3.2/3.2 champagne      6.2/6.2/3.8 dobrichev      8.2/8.2/8.2 dobrichev   10.0/10.0/10.0 dobrichev
    3.4/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf    6.5/4.7/2.6 dobrichev      8.3/8.3/8.3 m_b_metcalf 10.1/10.1/10.1 champagne
    3.6/3.6/3.6 m_b_metcalf    6.6/6.6/6.6 m_b_metcalf    8.4/8.4/8.4 dobrichev   10.2/10.2/10.2 champagne
    3.8/3.8/3.8 m_b_metcalf    6.7/6.7/6.7 dobrichev      8.5/8.5/8.5 m_b_metcalf 10.3/10.3/10.3 m_b_metcalf
    4.0/4.0/4.0 dobrichev      6.8/6.8/3.4 champagne      8.6/8.6/8.6 dobrichev   10.4/10.4/10.4 dobrichev
    4.2/4.2/4.2 m_b_metcalf    6.9/6.9/3.0 dobrichev      8.7/8.7/8.7 champagne   10.5/10.5/10.5 m_b_metcalf
    4.4/4.4/4.4 dobrichev      7.0/7.0/7.0 dobrichev      8.8/8.8/8.8 dobrichev   10.6/10.6/10.6 champagne
    4.5/4.5/3.8 Pat            7.1/7.1/7.1 m_b_metcalf    8.9/8.9/8.9 dobrichev   10.7/10.7/10.6 champagne
    4.6/4.6/3.4 dobrichev      7.2/7.2/7.2 dobrichev      9.0/9.0/9.0 m_b_metcalf 11.1/11.1/10.7 dobrichev
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    open ratings : 4.9 5.1 5.4 6.0 10.8-11.0 11.2-11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
         papy999        0      0         0  dealer
             Pat        1    571         0  pearl,last-entry=369
     m_b_metcalf       21   1552    28m54s  rare-0,diamond*16,consecutive-entry,se-mismatch
       champagne       14   1774     3h36m  rare-2,diamond*7,pearl*2
       dobrichev       36   4377     1h19m  rare-0,diamond*23,pearl*8,highest-rating=520,bad-submission,dup-rating
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               5       72   8274            rare-0*2,rare-2,diamond*46,pearl*11
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby dobrichev » Mon May 14, 2018 1:04 pm

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....4.5..
..26...7.
4.5.8...6
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.8..9.4..
..7....9.
6..3....5 ED=8.1/8.1/3.4


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312 — 4.6

Postby Pat » Mon May 14, 2018 1:38 pm

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 . . . . 3 . 1 . .
 . . 2 6 . . . 4 .
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 . 3 . . 9 . 7 . .
 . . 5 . . . . 9 .
 8 . . 5 . . . . 1

                      ED=4.6/4.6/3.8
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby dobrichev » Mon May 14, 2018 1:53 pm

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....4.5..
..36...7.
5.2.8...4
.7.5..3..
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..9....1.
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