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Re: Patterns Game

Postby Patrice » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:39 pm

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Re: Patterns Game

Postby papy999 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:42 pm

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Postby g.r.emlin » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:43 pm

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game 0299 2017-12-16+21:00:00-0000 duration 3d16h dealer coloin pages 2344-2349 (open) 4 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.1/7.1/2.8 papy999        8.8/8.8/7.2 m_b_metcalf  10.3/10.3/7.2 Patrice
    1.5/1.2/1.2 coloin         7.2/7.2/7.2 Patrice        8.9/8.9/8.3 m_b_metcalf 10.4/10.4/10.2 m_b_metcalf
    1.7/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.3/7.2/3.4 Patrice        9.0/9.0/9.0 m_b_metcalf  10.5/10.5/9.4 Patrice
    2.0/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    7.4/7.4/7.2 m_b_metcalf    9.1/9.1/9.1 Patrice     10.6/10.6/10.6 Patrice
    2.3/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    7.5/2.0/2.0 papy999        9.2/9.2/9.2 m_b_metcalf 10.7/10.7/10.4 papy999
    2.5/2.0/2.0 Patrice        7.6/7.6/3.4 Patrice        9.3/9.3/9.2 Patrice      10.8/10.8/9.6 Patrice
    2.6/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    7.7/2.0/2.0 papy999        9.4/9.4/9.4 Patrice      10.9/10.9/3.4 Patrice
    2.8/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    7.8/7.2/3.4 papy999        9.5/9.5/9.5 Patrice      11.0/11.0/3.4 papy999
    3.0/2.0/2.0 Patrice        7.9/7.2/3.4 Patrice        9.6/9.6/9.6 m_b_metcalf 11.1/11.1/10.1 Patrice
    3.2/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    8.2/7.2/7.2 Patrice        9.7/9.7/9.4 m_b_metcalf  11.2/11.2/3.4 Patrice
    3.4/2.0/2.0 Patrice        8.3/8.3/7.2 m_b_metcalf    9.8/9.8/9.3 Patrice     11.3/11.3/10.8 Patrice
    3.8/2.0/2.0 papy999        8.4/8.4/8.4 Patrice        9.9/9.9/9.8 Patrice      11.4/11.4/3.4 Patrice
    5.2/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    8.5/8.5/8.5 m_b_metcalf  10.0/10.0/9.2 Patrice     11.5/11.5/11.1 Patrice
    5.7/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    8.6/8.6/7.2 Patrice      10.1/10.1/9.3 Patrice
    6.6/2.0/2.0 papy999        8.7/8.7/3.4 Patrice      10.2/10.2/9.2 m_b_metcalf
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    rare ratings : 11.5

    open ratings : 3.6 4.0 4.2 4.4-5.1 5.4 5.6 5.8-6.2 6.5 6.7-7.0 8.0 8.1 11.6-11.8

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         papy999        8   1038     2h17m  rare-1,pearl*3,last-entry=307,dup-puzzle
     m_b_metcalf       20   1647    50m18s  rare-0,diamond*4,pearl*7
         Patrice       29   3803     1h47m  rare-0*7,rare-1,diamond*6,pearl*17,highest-rating=19
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               4       58   6469            rare-0*8,rare-1*2,diamond*10,pearl*27
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby Patrice » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:00 pm

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Re: Patterns Game

Postby coloin » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:07 pm

:::comment:::
i scanned an old set of "hardestpuzzles" [not in champagnes list - for symmetry - and i got those puzzles [inc 11.5se/11.2/skfr]
I was prompted by the previous game.
The other patterns all have skfr >11.1
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby papy999 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:16 pm

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. . 8 | 4 . . | 7 . .
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. . . | . . 2 | . 6 .
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. 4 . | 3 . . | 8 . .
. . . | . . 9 | . . 1
. . . | . 6 . | . 9 .  ED=4.4/2.0/2.0
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby Patrice » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:31 pm

::: comment :::
Hi Coloin,

I've made an analysis of champagne ph_1512
There is a lot of puzzles with pattern that can be put (by isotransformation) in a symetrical form.
Some of them have been proposed by champagne for the Pattern game, but most of them have not.
I've just proposed one of them which is in g.r.emlin waiting list !

I will test if the current pattern has some puzzles in champagne BDD (isomorph puzzles)
I need just some hours to write some code for that !

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Re: Patterns Game

Postby Patrice » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:32 pm

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. . . . 7 . . 9 .  ED=4.5/2.0/2.0
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby papy999 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:34 pm

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. 4 . | 6 . . | 8 . .
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby Patrice » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:53 pm

::: comment :::
Hi coloin,

First test : the current game gives as minlexpattern
.......XX.....XX.X..X...XX...X..X..X.X..X....X..X.......X..X.X..X.X.....X...X....
and in the champagne ph1512 (last published list dated 2015 december)
there are 85 puzzles with the same minlexpattern !!! :P

21 of them have a serate rating (9 of them have a serate rating >=11.0 - they cover 11.1, 11.3, 11.4 and 11.5)
64 have a skfr rating ( 1 of them is 11.2 - to be confirmed by serate) origin dobritchev and champagne

in ph_1512 the 11.5 is form tarek
Here after : extract form ph_1512
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5.......8.3...2.4...9...1......27.3....5.4....7.63....8.....9...4.7...6...1.....5   11.50   11.50   11.10   tarek-2228
98.7.....6.7...8...54.......7.8..5......3..6......2..1..95..4......6...3.....1.2.   11.40   11.40   3.40   H56
98.7.....7.6...8...54.......7.6..5......9..3......2..1..54..7......1...9.....3.2.   11.30   11.30   10.80   22ky5
...4..7....6.8...2.....3.5......73...1..2...6...5...4..72......86..9....9.1.....8   11.30   11.30   3.40   750
98.7.....7.6.......54...9..5..8..4......3..6......2..1..94..5......6...2.....1.3.   11.30   11.30   3.40   H256
98.7.....7.6...8...54.......9.5..6......4..3......2..1..78..5......3...2.....1.4.   11.30   11.30   3.40   H252
98.7.....7.6...8...54.......6.8..5......3..4......2..1..75..9......4...2.....1.3.   11.10   11.10   10.10   H769
3.......7.5.6...8...2...9...1..56......4.8......19..4.9.....3...8...4.5...7.....2   11.10   11.10   3.40   tarek-ultra-0326
.......12.....134...4...5.6..2..5.6..7..3....8..9.......5..2..1.9.7.....3...8....   11.10   11.10   3.40   2012_04
98.7.....7.6...8...54.......9.5..7......3..4......2..1..76..5......4...2.....1.3.   10.90   10.90   3.40   H1318
98.7.....7.6.......54...7..4..9..6......3..8......2..1..96..4......1...3.....8.2.   10.80   10.80   9.60   H1515
98.7.....7.6...8...54.......9.8..6......3..4......2..1..96..7......4...3.....1.2.   10.80   10.80   9.60   H1522
98.7.....7.6.......54...9..8..4..7......6..3......2..1..89..4......1...2.....3.6.   10.80   10.80   9.60   H1524
98.7.....7.6.......54...7..4..6..9......3..8......2..1..94..6......1...3.....8.2.   10.80   10.80   9.60   H1516
7.......8.3.2...4...6...9...5.14.......7.2.......35.1.9.....7...4...1.3...8.....6   10.80   10.80   3.40   tarek-ultra-0311
9.......6.1.7...8...2...3...4.16.......8.2.......74.5.3.....9...7...8.1...6.....2   10.70   10.70   10.20   tarek-1149
1.......7.9.4...5...6...2...5.79.......5.2.......38.4.7.....6...3...9.8...2.....1   10.70   10.70   10.10   coloin-04-10
98.7.....7.6...8...54.......9.6..7......3..4......2..1..98..6......4...3.....1.2.   10.70   10.70   9.60   H2046
98.7.....7.6...8...54.......6.9..5......3..4......2..1..75..9......4...3.....1.2.   10.70   10.70   3.40   H2383
7.......3.1...6.2...8...5.....49..6....8.1....9..72...3.....8...2.9...4...5.....7   10.60   10.60   10.60   tarek-2629
7.......5.4...8.3...2...9.....62..8....8.7....1..34...5.....2...3.1...6...9.....7   10.60   10.60   10.60   tarek-2549
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby Patrice » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:56 pm

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Re: Patterns Game

Postby Patrice » Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:02 pm

::: comment :::
Hi Coloin,

What was the origin of your puzzle ? tarek ?
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby papy999 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:03 pm

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. . . | . . 6 | . 1 .
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. 9 . | 5 . . | 8 . .
. . . | . . 7 | . . 6
. . . | . 1 . | . 9 .  ED=6.5/2.0/2.0
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby papy999 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:12 pm

Patrice wrote:there are 85 puzzles with the same minlexpattern !!! :P

21 of them have a serate rating (9 of them have a serate rating >=11.0 - they cover 11.1, 11.3, 11.4 and 11.5)

Interesting !
How can you verify this so quickly ?
Do you have a way to put these puzzles in the good form for the game ?

I wonder if we have found something new with this game or just "isomorph" of already known puzzles :|
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby m_b_metcalf » Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:21 pm

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Wow, I went out for lunch and the game's almost over!
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