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Postby gsf » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:58 pm

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Postby g.r.emlin » Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:01 pm

::: game 0172 status LIGHTNING 2012-04-18+22:01:04-0000 :::
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game 0172 2012-04-17+04:00:00-0000 LIGHTNING duration 1d17h dealer m_b_metcalf pages 1283-1291 (open) 4 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 gsf            4.5/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    8.0/7.3/3.4 gsf            9.5/9.5/3.8 m_b_metcalf
    1.5/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    5.6/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    8.2/8.2/3.8 Patrice        9.6/9.6/3.8 m_b_metcalf
    1.7/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    6.6/3.8/3.8 gsf            8.3/8.3/3.8 Patrice        9.7/9.7/3.8 m_b_metcalf
    2.0/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    6.7/2.8/2.8 m_b_metcalf    8.4/8.4/3.8 m_b_metcalf    9.8/9.8/3.8 m_b_metcalf
    2.3/1.2/1.2 gsf            6.9/3.8/3.8 m_b_metcalf    8.5/8.5/3.8 m_b_metcalf    9.9/9.9/3.8 Patrice
    2.5/1.2/1.2 gsf            7.1/7.1/3.8 m_b_metcalf    8.6/8.6/3.8 Patrice      10.0/10.0/9.8 Patrice
    2.6/1.2/1.2 Pat            7.2/7.2/3.8 gsf            8.7/7.3/3.8 gsf          10.1/10.1/3.8 Patrice
    2.8/2.8/2.8 Patrice        7.3/7.3/3.8 m_b_metcalf    8.8/8.8/3.8 Patrice      10.2/10.2/3.8 m_b_metcalf
    3.0/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.4/7.3/3.4 gsf            8.9/8.9/3.8 m_b_metcalf  10.3/10.3/3.8 Patrice
    3.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.5/7.5/3.8 gsf            9.0/9.0/3.8 m_b_metcalf  10.4/10.4/3.8 Patrice
    3.4/1.2/1.2 Pat            7.6/7.3/3.8 gsf            9.1/9.1/3.8 m_b_metcalf  10.5/10.5/3.8 Patrice
    3.6/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.7/7.7/3.8 gsf            9.2/9.2/3.8 m_b_metcalf  10.6/10.6/9.9 Patrice
    3.8/3.8/3.8 Patrice        7.8/7.8/3.8 Patrice        9.3/9.3/3.8 m_b_metcalf  10.7/10.7/3.4 Patrice
    4.2/3.8/3.8 gsf            7.9/7.9/3.4 gsf            9.4/9.4/3.8 Patrice      10.8/10.8/3.4 Patrice
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    open ratings : 4.0 4.4 4.6-5.2 5.4 5.7-6.2 6.5 6.8 7.0 8.1 10.9-11.4 11.6 11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
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             Pat        2    148    58m59s  rare-1
     m_b_metcalf       24   1776    36m05s  pearl*14,bad-pattern,dealer
             gsf       13   2143    14m33s  rare-0*16,rare-2*4,pearl*4,last-entry=279
         Patrice       17   2192    54m37s  rare-0,rare-1,rare-2*2,diamond*2,pearl*15,highest-rating=398
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               4       56   6259            rare-0*17,rare-1*2,rare-2*6,diamond*2,pearl*33
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Postby gsf » Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:17 pm

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Postby g.r.emlin » Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:41 pm

::: adjustment 2012-04-18+23:17:00-0000 gsf consecutive-entry -50 :::
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Penalty

Postby ronk » Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:08 am

::: comment :::
g.r.emlin wrote:::: adjustment 2012-04-18+23:17:00-0000 gsf consecutive-entry -50 :::

Hmm, gsf is penalized because Patrice deletes an entry. Is there an adjustment for that?
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Re: Penalty

Postby gsf » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:36 am

ronk wrote:::: comment :::
g.r.emlin wrote:::: adjustment 2012-04-18+23:17:00-0000 gsf consecutive-entry -50 :::

Hmm, gsf is penalized because Patrice deletes an entry. Is there an adjustment for that?

that's a chink in the referee's armor
it polls the forum at regular intervals
if an entry is made *and* it is deleted while it is the last post *and* both happened between polls then
the referee does not know about it
I had the bad luck of seeing what the referee didn't

not sure what we can do about that
however, if it becomes a consistent strategy to gain advantage I'm sure there's something we can do
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Re: Penalty

Postby champagne » Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:53 am

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gsf wrote:
ronk wrote:::: comment :::
g.r.emlin wrote:::: adjustment 2012-04-18+23:17:00-0000 gsf consecutive-entry -50 :::

Hmm, gsf is penalized because Patrice deletes an entry. Is there an adjustment for that?

that's a chink in the referee's armor
it polls the forum at regular intervals
if an entry is made *and* it is deleted while it is the last post *and* both happened between polls then
the referee does not know about it
I had the bad luck of seeing what the referee didn't

not sure what we can do about that
however, if it becomes a consistent strategy to gain advantage I'm sure there's something we can do


it seems more complex

Patrice has the last entry so it has been accounted by the referee

I can't see any reason why he would have cancelled that entry!!!

Anyway, the referee knows it


300200000050090040006007000700000600080050020001000003000400900020030080000006007 # 81 8.7/8.7/3.4 * Patrice

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Re: Patterns Game

Postby m_b_metcalf » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:48 am

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Re: Penalty

Postby gsf » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:15 am

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champagne wrote:it seems more complex

Patrice has the last entry so it has been accounted by the referee

I can't see any reason why he would have cancelled that entry!!!

Anyway, the referee knows it

300200000050090040006007000700000600080050020001000003000400900020030080000006007 # 81 8.7/8.7/3.4 * Patrice

champagne

thanks champagne
it should have occurred to me that I was looking at the referee's results before making an entry
the referee should be able to detect this by retaining the previous interpretation of the last forum page
and comparing it with the current polled image
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Re: Penalty

Postby champagne » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:32 am

::: comment :::

gsf wrote:::: comment :::
champagne wrote:it seems more complex

Patrice has the last entry so it has been accounted by the referee

I can't see any reason why he would have cancelled that entry!!!

Anyway, the referee knows it

300200000050090040006007000700000600080050020001000003000400900020030080000006007 # 81 8.7/8.7/3.4 * Patrice

champagne

thanks champagne
it should have occurred to me that I was looking at the referee's results before making an entry
the referee should be able to detect this by retaining the previous interpretation of the last forum page
and comparing it with the current polled image



just to add fun in the game and to show he is consistent, the referee cancelled that entry and now your 4.0 1.2 1.2 is number 81.


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Re: Patterns Game

Postby ronk » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:34 am

::: comment :::

In this instance, the referee could have detected the deletion and penalized Patrice instead of gsf. Because of interval polling, however, this "chink" in the referee's armor would still exist.

Hmm, in these days of exaggerated political correctness, the slang term "chink" might no longer be appropriate.
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby Patrice » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:58 am

::: comment :::
I apologize for the deletion of my post.
I though there was an error in the format of my post, and try to delete it immediately but gremlin was too fast and was able to extract the puzzle and rating...

It seems that gremlin took it at first, but now mine is no more in the list. And GSF one is in the list of results !

Ronk : it's not a gaming strategy !!!
We should look if there is a mean to forbid editing or deletion of post in that specific thread !

So lets continue the game
As a "penalization" I will wait the next GSF post

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Postby gsf » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:00 pm

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re: penalty

Postby Pat » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:58 pm

ronk wrote:
champagne wrote:
it seems more complex

Patrice has the last entry so it has been accounted by the referee

Anyway, the referee knows it

    300200000050090040006007000700000600080050020001000003000400900020030080000006007 # 81 8.7/8.7/3.4 * Patrice


In this instance, the referee could have detected the deletion


exactly

gsf, how did the deletion go unnoticed ??
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby m_b_metcalf » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:33 pm

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