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by **Mauricio** » Fri Dec 26, 2008 5:10 am

Code: Select all: +-------+-------+-------+ | . . . | . . 1 | . 2 . | | 3 . . | . . . | 4 . . | | . 1 2 | 5 . . | 6 . . | +-------+-------+-------+ | 5 . . | . 6 . | 7 . . | | . . . | 1 . 4 | . . . | | . . 8 | . 3 . | . . 9 | +-------+-------+-------+ | . . 9 | . . 2 | 1 7 . | | . . 7 | . . . | . . 3 | | . 8 . | 4 . . | . . . | +-------+-------+-------+ ED=5.7/4.0/3.6

by **g.r.emlin** » Fri Dec 26, 2008 5:14 am

::: game 0063 status 2008-12-26+17:33:17-0000 :::

Code: Select all: game 0063 2008-12-12+23:45:00-0000 duration 1w06d dealer Mauricio pages 114-123 (open) 4 players ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 1.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf 4.5/4.5/3.4 JPF 7.0/7.0/7.0 gsf 8.6/8.6/8.6 gsf 1.5/1.5/1.5 gsf 4.6/4.6/3.4 JPF 7.1/7.1/7.1 gsf 8.7/8.7/8.5 gsf 1.7/1.5/1.5 JPF 4.7/4.7/3.4 JPF 7.2/7.2/7.2 JPF 8.8/8.8/8.8 JPF 2.0/2.0/2.0 JPF 4.8/1.2/1.2 JPF 7.3/7.3/7.3 JPF 8.9/8.9/8.9 m_b_metcalf 2.3/2.3/2.3 gsf 5.0/1.2/1.2 gsf 7.4/7.4/7.3 JPF 9.0/9.0/9.0 gsf 2.5/2.5/2.5 gsf 5.2/1.2/1.2 JPF 7.5/7.5/7.5 m_b_metcalf 9.1/9.1/9.1 gsf 2.6/2.6/2.6 JPF 5.6/4.0/3.6 m_b_metcalf 7.6/7.6/7.1 m_b_metcalf 9.2/9.2/9.2 JPF 2.8/2.8/2.8 gsf 5.7/4.0/3.6 Mauricio 7.7/7.7/7.1 gsf 9.3/9.3/9.3 JPF 3.0/3.0/3.0 JPF 5.8/1.2/1.2 gsf 7.8/7.8/7.8 gsf 9.4/9.4/9.3 JPF 3.2/3.2/3.0 JPF 5.9/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf 7.9/7.9/3.6 Mauricio 9.5/9.5/9.3 m_b_metcalf 3.4/3.4/3.4 gsf 6.2/3.6/3.6 Mauricio 8.0/8.0/2.6 JPF 9.6/9.6/9.1 JPF 3.6/3.6/3.6 JPF 6.5/3.6/3.6 m_b_metcalf 8.1/1.2/1.2 gsf 9.7/9.7/9.3 Mauricio 3.8/3.4/3.4 gsf 6.6/6.6/6.6 m_b_metcalf 8.2/8.2/8.2 m_b_metcalf 9.8/9.8/9.2 Mauricio 4.0/4.0/4.0 m_b_metcalf 6.7/6.7/6.7 m_b_metcalf 8.3/8.3/8.3 m_b_metcalf 9.9/9.9/9.3 Mauricio 4.2/4.2/4.2 gsf 6.8/6.7/6.7 JPF 8.4/8.4/8.4 m_b_metcalf 10.1/1.2/1.2 Mauricio 4.4/4.4/4.4 gsf 6.9/6.7/6.7 Mauricio 8.5/8.5/8.5 JPF 10.4/10.4/2.6 JPF ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ open ratings : 5.1 5.4 6.0 6.1 10.0 10.2 10.3 10.5-10.7 submitter entries score response notes ----------- ------- ----- -------- ----- m_b_metcalf 14 1236 1h38m diamond*8,pearl*2 Mauricio 8 1272 2h58m pearl*4,last-entry,dealer gsf 19 1699 1h36m diamond*11,pearl*2 JPF 23 2268 3h51m diamond*9,pearl*9,highest-rating,consecutive-entry,edited*3,self-trump*2 ----------- ------- ----- ----- 4 64 6475 diamond*28,pearl*17

by **Mauricio** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:13 am

Code: Select all: +-------+-------+-------+ | . . . | . . 1 | . 2 . | | 3 . . | . . . | 1 . . | | . 4 1 | 5 . . | 6 . . | +-------+-------+-------+ | 6 . . | . 5 . | 7 . . | | . . . | 4 . 2 | . . . | | . . 5 | . 6 . | . . 8 | +-------+-------+-------+ | . . 3 | . . 8 | 5 1 . | | . . 6 | . . . | . . 4 | | . 8 . | 2 . . | . . . | +-------+-------+-------+ ED=5.2/2.0/2.0

by **Mauricio** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:14 pm

Code: Select all: +-------+-------+-------+ | . . . | . . 1 | . 2 . | | 2 . . | . . . | 3 . . | | . 1 4 | 5 . . | 6 . . | +-------+-------+-------+ | 7 . . | . 8 . | 5 . . | | . . . | 1 . 3 | . . . | | . . 9 | . 7 . | . . 6 | +-------+-------+-------+ | . . 6 | . . 4 | 1 5 . | | . . 5 | . . . | . . 2 | | . 4 . | 8 . . | . . . | +-------+-------+-------+ ED=6.5/4.0/4.0

by **Mauricio** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:42 am

Code: Select all: +-------+-------+-------+ | . . . | . . 1 | . 2 . | | 3 . . | . . . | 4 . . | | . 1 5 | 6 . . | 3 . . | +-------+-------+-------+ | 6 . . | . 2 . | 7 . . | | . . . | 5 . 8 | . . . | | . . 9 | . 4 . | . . 3 | +-------+-------+-------+ | . . 8 | . . 5 | 9 6 . | | . . 1 | . . . | . . 4 | | . 7 . | 2 . . | . . . | +-------+-------+-------+ ED=3.8/3.8/3.4

by **Mauricio** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:46 pm

Code: Select all: +-------+-------+-------+ | . . . | . . 1 | . 2 . | | 3 . . | . . . | 4 . . | | . 2 1 | 5 . . | 6 . . | +-------+-------+-------+ | 7 . . | . 3 . | 8 . . | | . . . | 1 . 8 | . . . | | . . 4 | . 6 . | . . 9 | +-------+-------+-------+ | . . 6 | . . 9 | 1 5 . | | . . 2 | . . . | . . 8 | | . 5 . | 4 . . | . . . | +-------+-------+-------+ ED=5.6/4.0/4.0

by **Mauricio** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:30 am

Code: Select all: +-------+-------+-------+ | . . . | . . 1 | . 2 . | | 2 . . | . . . | 3 . . | | . 4 5 | 3 . . | 6 . . | +-------+-------+-------+ | 7 . . | . 4 . | 1 . . | | . . . | 2 . 7 | . . . | | . . 8 | . 6 . | . . 3 | +-------+-------+-------+ | . . 3 | . . 6 | 5 8 . | | . . 6 | . . . | . . 7 | | . 9 . | 5 . . | . . . | +-------+-------+-------+ ED=6.2/6.2/3.4

by **g.r.emlin** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:51 pm

::: game 0063 idle 2009-01-02+11:40:47-0000 -- with no further entries the game will close at 2008-12-30+19:00:00-0000 :::

Code: Select all: game 0063 2008-12-13+00:02:00-0000 duration 2w02d dealer Mauricio pages 114-123 (open) 4 players ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 1.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf 4.5/4.5/3.4 JPF 7.0/7.0/7.0 gsf 8.6/8.6/8.6 gsf 1.5/1.5/1.5 gsf 4.6/4.6/3.4 JPF 7.1/7.1/7.1 gsf 8.7/8.7/8.5 gsf 1.7/1.5/1.5 JPF 4.7/4.7/3.4 JPF 7.2/7.2/7.2 JPF 8.8/8.8/8.8 JPF 2.0/2.0/2.0 JPF 4.8/1.2/1.2 JPF 7.3/7.3/7.3 JPF 8.9/8.9/8.9 m_b_metcalf 2.3/2.3/2.3 gsf 5.0/1.2/1.2 gsf 7.4/7.4/7.3 JPF 9.0/9.0/9.0 gsf 2.5/2.5/2.5 gsf 5.2/2.0/2.0 Mauricio 7.5/7.5/7.5 m_b_metcalf 9.1/9.1/9.1 gsf 2.6/2.6/2.6 JPF 5.6/4.0/4.0 Mauricio 7.6/7.6/7.1 m_b_metcalf 9.2/9.2/9.2 JPF 2.8/2.8/2.8 gsf 5.7/4.0/3.6 Mauricio 7.7/7.7/7.1 gsf 9.3/9.3/9.3 JPF 3.0/3.0/3.0 JPF 5.8/1.2/1.2 gsf 7.8/7.8/7.8 gsf 9.4/9.4/9.3 JPF 3.2/3.2/3.0 JPF 5.9/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf 7.9/7.9/3.6 Mauricio 9.5/9.5/9.3 m_b_metcalf 3.4/3.4/3.4 gsf 6.2/6.2/3.4 Mauricio 8.0/8.0/2.6 JPF 9.6/9.6/9.1 JPF 3.6/3.6/3.6 JPF 6.5/4.0/4.0 Mauricio 8.1/1.2/1.2 gsf 9.7/9.7/9.3 Mauricio 3.8/3.8/3.4 Mauricio 6.6/6.6/6.6 m_b_metcalf 8.2/8.2/8.2 m_b_metcalf 9.8/9.8/9.2 Mauricio 4.0/4.0/4.0 m_b_metcalf 6.7/6.7/6.7 m_b_metcalf 8.3/8.3/8.3 m_b_metcalf 9.9/9.9/9.3 Mauricio 4.2/4.2/4.2 gsf 6.8/6.7/6.7 JPF 8.4/8.4/8.4 m_b_metcalf 10.1/1.2/1.2 Mauricio 4.4/4.4/4.4 gsf 6.9/6.7/6.7 Mauricio 8.5/8.5/8.5 JPF 10.4/10.4/2.6 JPF ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ open ratings : 5.1 5.4 6.0 6.1 10.0 10.2 10.3 10.5-10.7 submitter entries score response notes ----------- ------- ----- -------- ----- m_b_metcalf 12 1084 1h38m diamond*8,pearl*2 gsf 18 1586 1h35m diamond*11,pearl*2 Mauricio 12 1809 7h10m pearl*6,last-entry,dealer JPF 22 2187 3h51m diamond*9,pearl*9,highest-rating,consecutive-entry,edited*3,self-trump*2 ----------- ------- ----- ----- 4 64 6666 diamond*28,pearl*19

by **g.r.emlin** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:56 pm

::: game 0063 closed (idle for 3d16h) -- preliminary results :::

Code: Select all: game 0063 2008-12-13+00:02:00-0000 duration 2w02d dealer Mauricio pages 114-123 (idle) 4 players ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 1.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf 4.5/4.5/3.4 JPF 7.0/7.0/7.0 gsf 8.6/8.6/8.6 gsf 1.5/1.5/1.5 gsf 4.6/4.6/3.4 JPF 7.1/7.1/7.1 gsf 8.7/8.7/8.5 gsf 1.7/1.5/1.5 JPF 4.7/4.7/3.4 JPF 7.2/7.2/7.2 JPF 8.8/8.8/8.8 JPF 2.0/2.0/2.0 JPF 4.8/1.2/1.2 JPF 7.3/7.3/7.3 JPF 8.9/8.9/8.9 m_b_metcalf 2.3/2.3/2.3 gsf 5.0/1.2/1.2 gsf 7.4/7.4/7.3 JPF 9.0/9.0/9.0 gsf 2.5/2.5/2.5 gsf 5.2/2.0/2.0 Mauricio 7.5/7.5/7.5 m_b_metcalf 9.1/9.1/9.1 gsf 2.6/2.6/2.6 JPF 5.6/4.0/4.0 Mauricio 7.6/7.6/7.1 m_b_metcalf 9.2/9.2/9.2 JPF 2.8/2.8/2.8 gsf 5.7/4.0/3.6 Mauricio 7.7/7.7/7.1 gsf 9.3/9.3/9.3 JPF 3.0/3.0/3.0 JPF 5.8/1.2/1.2 gsf 7.8/7.8/7.8 gsf 9.4/9.4/9.3 JPF 3.2/3.2/3.0 JPF 5.9/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf 7.9/7.9/3.6 Mauricio 9.5/9.5/9.3 m_b_metcalf 3.4/3.4/3.4 gsf 6.2/6.2/3.4 Mauricio 8.0/8.0/2.6 JPF 9.6/9.6/9.1 JPF 3.6/3.6/3.6 JPF 6.5/4.0/4.0 Mauricio 8.1/1.2/1.2 gsf 9.7/9.7/9.3 Mauricio 3.8/3.8/3.4 Mauricio 6.6/6.6/6.6 m_b_metcalf 8.2/8.2/8.2 m_b_metcalf 9.8/9.8/9.2 Mauricio 4.0/4.0/4.0 m_b_metcalf 6.7/6.7/6.7 m_b_metcalf 8.3/8.3/8.3 m_b_metcalf 9.9/9.9/9.3 Mauricio 4.2/4.2/4.2 gsf 6.8/6.7/6.7 JPF 8.4/8.4/8.4 m_b_metcalf 10.1/1.2/1.2 Mauricio 4.4/4.4/4.4 gsf 6.9/6.7/6.7 Mauricio 8.5/8.5/8.5 JPF 10.4/10.4/2.6 JPF ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ open ratings : 5.1 5.4 6.0 6.1 10.0 10.2 10.3 10.5-10.7 submitter entries score response notes ----------- ------- ----- -------- ----- m_b_metcalf 12 1084 1h38m diamond*8,pearl*2 gsf 18 1586 1h35m diamond*11,pearl*2 Mauricio 12 1809 7h10m pearl*6,last-entry,dealer JPF 22 2187 3h51m diamond*9,pearl*9,highest-rating,consecutive-entry,edited*3,self-trump*2 ----------- ------- ----- ----- 4 64 6666 diamond*28,pearl*19

by **gsf** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:58 pm

::: more :::

Code: Select all: 000001020600000400012500600500080700000104000008030009009007160007000003080200000 7.6/7.6/7.2

by **gsf** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:20 am

happy new year
I just posted a Christmas gift
SudokuExplainer.jar 1.2.1.3 serate with two new options based on some suggestions from earlier last year
--diamond terminates the rating if the puzzle cannot be a diamond (non-diamonds will have ER/EP/ED matching 20.0/*/*)
--pearl terminates the rating if the puzzle cannot be a pearl (non-pearls will have ER/EP/ED matching 20.0/*/*)

by **coloin** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:55 am

That will help you indeed.

Do we know approx how many minimal puzzles on average there are for a 21 clue pattern ?

18-puzzle ? <1
19-puzzle 843 [Nick70] [The original pattern gamer !]
20-puzzle 8000 ?
21-puzzle 200000 ?

C

by **g.r.emlin** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:53 pm

::: game 0064 start LIGHTNING at 2009-01-03+20:00:00-0000 :::

Code: Select all: dealer status candidate patterns (via private message to g.r.emlin) 1 coloin 88 g.r.emlin past patterns 1 claudiarabia 1 pseudocoup 2 g.r.emlin 8 coloin 13 Mauricio 1 draco 1 ravel 6 gsf 8 tarek 16 JPF 1 Eioru 1 wintder 7 m_b_metcalf 9 Pat 19 TTHsieh

by **g.r.emlin** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:05 am

::: game 0064 open LIGHTNING 2009-01-03+20:00:14-0000 dealer coloin 21 clues pi rotational (180 degrees) symmetry :::

Code: Select all: . . 1 . . 2 3 . . . 6 . . 8 . . 2 . 7 . . . . . . . 9 . . . 4 . . . . . . . 2 . 7 . 5 . . . . . . . 8 . . . 8 . . . . . . . 2 . 4 . . 5 . . 7 . . . 5 3 . . 1 . . ED=1.5/1.2/1.2

by **Mauricio** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:56 am

Code: Select all: +-------+-------+-------+ | . . 1 | . . 2 | 3 . . | | . 2 . | . 4 . | . 5 . | | 6 . . | . . . | . . 7 | +-------+-------+-------+ | . . . | 3 . . | . . . | | . . 4 | . 8 . | 9 . . | | . . . | . . 7 | . . . | +-------+-------+-------+ | 3 . . | . . . | . . 2 | | . 7 . | . 5 . | . 6 . | | . . 9 | 6 . . | 1 . . | +-------+-------+-------+ ED=7.1/7.1/7.1

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