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[ronk]

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 . . . . 9 . . . .
 . . . 2 7 1 . . .
 . . 7 4 . 6 8 . .
 . . 4 . 5 . 3 . .
 . 1 . . . . . 7 .
 6 . . . . . . . 2
 . . 3 . 4 . 5 . .
 . 4 . . . . . 3 .
 2 . . . . . . . 1    ED=6.9/2.0/2.0

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0132 status LIGHTNING 2011-02-07+23:53:15-0000 :::

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game 0132 2011-02-05+20:00:00-0000 LIGHTNING duration 2d03h dealer Mauricio pages 817-827 (open) 6 players
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    1.5/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    4.6/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.8/7.8/2.6 ronk           9.4/9.4/9.4 gsf
    1.7/1.2/1.2 Mauricio       4.7/2.0/2.0 gsf            7.9/7.3/2.6 Patrice        9.5/9.5/9.5 gsf
    2.0/1.5/1.5 ronk           5.6/1.2/1.2 ronk           8.0/7.2/3.4 m_b_metcalf    9.6/9.6/9.6 gsf
    2.3/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    6.6/6.6/2.6 ronk           8.2/8.2/2.6 m_b_metcalf    9.7/9.7/9.7 joel64
    2.5/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    6.7/3.8/2.6 gsf            8.3/8.3/3.8 gsf            9.8/9.8/9.8 ronk
    2.6/1.5/1.5 ronk           6.8/2.0/2.0 gsf            8.4/8.4/3.8 ronk           9.9/9.9/9.9 joel64
    2.8/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    6.9/2.0/2.0 ronk           8.5/8.5/3.4 Patrice     10.0/10.0/10.0 ronk
    3.0/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.0/1.2/1.2 joel64         8.6/8.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf 10.1/10.1/10.1 joel64
    3.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.1/7.1/3.8 ronk           8.7/8.3/2.6 gsf         10.2/10.2/10.2 joel64
    3.4/1.2/1.2 joel64         7.2/7.2/3.8 ronk           8.8/8.8/3.8 m_b_metcalf 10.3/10.3/10.3 ronk
    3.6/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.3/7.3/2.6 ronk           8.9/8.9/3.8 m_b_metcalf 10.4/10.4/10.3 joel64
    3.8/3.8/2.6 m_b_metcalf    7.4/7.4/2.6 Patrice        9.0/9.0/9.0 ronk        10.5/10.5/10.3 m_b_metcalf
    4.2/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    7.5/7.3/2.6 ronk           9.1/9.1/8.4 ronk        10.6/10.6/10.4 ronk
    4.4/2.0/2.0 gsf            7.6/7.3/2.6 ronk           9.2/9.2/9.2 gsf
    4.5/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    7.7/7.7/2.6 m_b_metcalf    9.3/9.3/9.2 gsf
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 1.2 4.0 4.8-5.2 5.4 5.7-6.2 6.5 8.1 10.7-11.4

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
        Mauricio        1    -19         0  dealer
         Patrice        3    427     1h07m  rare-0,pearl*2
          joel64        7   1065    19m59s  rare-0*5,rare-1,diamond*4,pearl
             gsf       11   1713    51m20s  rare-0*5,rare-1*2,rare-2*2,diamond*4,pearl*2
     m_b_metcalf       18   1732     7m55s  rare-0,rare-1,rare-2*2,pearl*7
            ronk       18   3375    32m55s  rare-0*10,rare-1*4,rare-2,diamond*4,pearl*8,highest-rating=281,last-entry=381,se-mismatch*2
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               6       58   8293            rare-0*22,rare-1*8,rare-2*5,diamond*12,pearl*20


[gsf]

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. . 8 5 . 6 2 . .
. . 5 . 7 . 3 . .
. 4 . . . . . 1 .
8 . . . . . . . 6
. . 7 . 2 . 5 . .
. 8 . . . . . 4 .
1 . . . . . . . 8  ED=5.6/1.5/1.5

[ronk]

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. . . . 9 . . . .
 . . . 7 2 1 . . .
 . . 8 4 . 5 7 . .
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 . 2 . . . . . 4 .
 1 . . . . . . . 3
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 . 4 . . . . . 3 .
 2 . . . . . . . 1    ED=5.2/1.2/1.2

[gsf]

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. . . 2 5 1 . . .
. . 9 4 . 7 3 . .
. . 8 . 7 . 6 . .
. 2 . . . . . 9 .
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. 5 . . . . . 7 .
2 . . . . . . . 1  ED=4.0/1.2/1.2

[Mauricio]

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+-------+-------+-------+
| . . . | . 1 . | . . . |
| . . . | 2 3 4 | . . . |
| . . 2 | 5 . 6 | 7 . . |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . . 1 | . 8 . | 9 . . |
| . 4 . | . . . | . 8 . |
| 8 . . | . . . | . . 3 |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . . 7 | . 5 . | 2 . . |
| . 8 . | . . . | . 4 . |
| 5 . . | . . . | . . 6 |
+-------+-------+-------+ ED=1.5/1.5/1.5


[gsf]

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. . . 2 3 4 . . .
. . 7 5 . 6 1 . .
. . 5 . 8 . 3 . .
. 4 . . . . . 7 .
6 . . . . . . . 2
. . 9 . 5 . 8 . .
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2 . . . . . . . 4  ED=7.0/2.0/2.0

[ronk]

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 . . . 4 2 1 . . .
 . . 5 6 . 9 4 . .
 . . 6 . 8 . 7 . .
 . 3 . . . . . 2 .
 1 . . . . . . . 3
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 . 4 . . . . . 3 .
 2 . . . . . . . 1    ED=6.7/6.6/2.6

[gsf]

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. . . 2 3 4 . . .
. . 1 5 . 6 9 . .
. . 3 . 7 . 8 . .
. 4 . . . . . 3 .
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. . 8 . 6 . 1 . .
. 3 . . . . . 2 .
9 . . . . . . . 4  ED=6.5/2.0/2.0

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0132 idle LIGHTNING 2011-02-09+20:18:14-0000 -- with no further entries the game will close at 2011-02-09+23:00:00-0000 :::

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game 0132 2011-02-05+20:00:00-0000 LIGHTNING duration 3d00h dealer Mauricio pages 817-827 (open) 6 players
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    1.5/1.5/1.5 Mauricio       4.6/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.7/7.7/2.6 m_b_metcalf    9.4/9.4/9.4 gsf
    1.7/1.2/1.2 Mauricio       4.7/2.0/2.0 gsf            7.8/7.8/2.6 ronk           9.5/9.5/9.5 gsf
    2.0/1.5/1.5 ronk           5.2/1.2/1.2 ronk           7.9/7.3/2.6 Patrice        9.6/9.6/9.6 gsf
    2.3/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    5.6/1.5/1.5 gsf            8.0/7.2/3.4 m_b_metcalf    9.7/9.7/9.7 joel64
    2.5/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    6.5/2.0/2.0 gsf            8.2/8.2/2.6 m_b_metcalf    9.8/9.8/9.8 ronk
    2.6/1.5/1.5 ronk           6.6/6.6/2.6 ronk           8.3/8.3/3.8 gsf            9.9/9.9/9.9 joel64
    2.8/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    6.7/6.6/2.6 ronk           8.4/8.4/3.8 ronk        10.0/10.0/10.0 ronk
    3.0/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    6.8/2.0/2.0 gsf            8.5/8.5/3.4 Patrice     10.1/10.1/10.1 joel64
    3.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    6.9/2.0/2.0 ronk           8.6/8.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf 10.2/10.2/10.2 joel64
    3.4/1.2/1.2 joel64         7.0/2.0/2.0 gsf            8.7/8.3/2.6 gsf         10.3/10.3/10.3 ronk
    3.6/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.1/7.1/3.8 ronk           8.8/8.8/3.8 m_b_metcalf 10.4/10.4/10.3 joel64
    3.8/3.8/2.6 m_b_metcalf    7.2/7.2/3.8 ronk           8.9/8.9/3.8 m_b_metcalf 10.5/10.5/10.3 m_b_metcalf
    4.0/1.2/1.2 gsf            7.3/7.3/2.6 ronk           9.0/9.0/9.0 ronk        10.6/10.6/10.4 ronk
    4.2/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    7.4/7.4/2.6 Patrice        9.1/9.1/8.4 ronk
    4.4/2.0/2.0 gsf            7.5/7.3/2.6 ronk           9.2/9.2/9.2 gsf
    4.5/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    7.6/7.3/2.6 ronk           9.3/9.3/9.2 gsf
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 1.2 4.8-5.1 5.4 5.7-6.2 8.1 10.7-11.4

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
        Mauricio        2     97    18h34m  dealer
         Patrice        3    427     1h07m  rare-0,pearl*2
          joel64        6    967    19m59s  rare-0*5,rare-1,diamond*4,pearl
     m_b_metcalf       17   1683     7m55s  rare-0,rare-1,rare-2*2,pearl*7
             gsf       14   2562    43m07s  rare-0*5,rare-1*2,rare-2*2,diamond*4,pearl*2,last-entry=404
            ronk       19   3047    34m07s  rare-0*10,rare-1*4,rare-2,diamond*4,pearl*8,highest-rating=281,se-mismatch*2
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               6       61   8783            rare-0*22,rare-1*8,rare-2*5,diamond*12,pearl*20


[Patrice]

::: comment :::

I've just a question bout the patterns Game rules

After making a submission a player may not make another submission until 10 minutes have passed and another player has made a submission. Game numbers 0 modulo 2 are lightning rounds (marked LIGHTNING) with the 10 minutes submission delay waived. In checking for consecutive posts by the same player, a syntactically correct submission is considered a submission, even if it is later tagged invalid.

Looking at the current game page 820, I found an invalid post from ronk

de ronk » Dim Fév 06, 2011 3:04 am
. . . . 9 . . . .
. . . 6 4 7 . . .
. . 9 5 . 8 6 . .
. . 5 . 7 . 8 . .
. 3 . . . . . 2 .
1 . . . . . . . 4
. . 7 . 6 . 5 . .
. 4 . . . . . 3 .
2 . . . . . . . 1 ED=9.8/9.8/9.8

Then there are 2 posts for adjustment, the first one refering to the previous post from ronk,

::: adjustment 2011-02-06+03:04:00-0000 ronk se-mismatch -100 :::

the second one refering to a post that is not present in the stream, but it's a ronk's one,

::: adjustment 2011-02-06+03:17:00-0000 ronk se-mismatch -100 :::

And then we find a new post from ronk

de ronk » Dim Fév 06, 2011 3:20 am
. . . . 1 . . . .
. . . 2 3 7 . . .
. . 1 5 . 8 2 . .
. . 5 . 7 . 8 . .
. 6 . . . . . 9 .
4 . . . . . . . 3
. . 7 . 2 . 5 . .
. 3 . . . . . 6 .
9 . . . . . . . 4 ED=9.8/9.8/9.8

If we follow the rule in citation, this last post from ronk is not valid, because there is no submission from an other player between the two ?!

Is there a skew somewhere or did I misunderstood the rule ?

Best regards
Patrice

[ronk]

::: comment :::

I've just a question bout the patterns Game rules

After making a submission a player may not make another submission until 10 minutes have passed and another player has made a submission. Game numbers 0 modulo 2 are lightning rounds (marked LIGHTNING) with the 10 minutes submission delay waived. In checking for consecutive posts by the same player, a syntactically correct submission is considered a submission, even if it is later tagged invalid.

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If we follow the rule in citation, this last post from ronk is not valid, because there is no submission from an other player between the two ?!

Is there a skew somewhere or did I misunderstood the rule ?

Although this may not be what gsf intended, a submission with a mismatched Sudoku Explainer rating is obviously not treated as a "syntactically correct submission."

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0132 closed LIGHTNING (idle for 1d02h) -- preliminary results :::

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game 0132 2011-02-05+20:00:00-0000 LIGHTNING duration 3d00h dealer Mauricio pages 817-827 (final) 6 players
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    1.5/1.5/1.5 Mauricio       4.6/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.7/7.7/2.6 m_b_metcalf    9.4/9.4/9.4 gsf
    1.7/1.2/1.2 Mauricio       4.7/2.0/2.0 gsf            7.8/7.8/2.6 ronk           9.5/9.5/9.5 gsf
    2.0/1.5/1.5 ronk           5.2/1.2/1.2 ronk           7.9/7.3/2.6 Patrice        9.6/9.6/9.6 gsf
    2.3/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    5.6/1.5/1.5 gsf            8.0/7.2/3.4 m_b_metcalf    9.7/9.7/9.7 joel64
    2.5/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    6.5/2.0/2.0 gsf            8.2/8.2/2.6 m_b_metcalf    9.8/9.8/9.8 ronk
    2.6/1.5/1.5 ronk           6.6/6.6/2.6 ronk           8.3/8.3/3.8 gsf            9.9/9.9/9.9 joel64
    2.8/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    6.7/6.6/2.6 ronk           8.4/8.4/3.8 ronk        10.0/10.0/10.0 ronk
    3.0/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    6.8/2.0/2.0 gsf            8.5/8.5/3.4 Patrice     10.1/10.1/10.1 joel64
    3.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    6.9/2.0/2.0 ronk           8.6/8.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf 10.2/10.2/10.2 joel64
    3.4/1.2/1.2 joel64         7.0/2.0/2.0 gsf            8.7/8.3/2.6 gsf         10.3/10.3/10.3 ronk
    3.6/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.1/7.1/3.8 ronk           8.8/8.8/3.8 m_b_metcalf 10.4/10.4/10.3 joel64
    3.8/3.8/2.6 m_b_metcalf    7.2/7.2/3.8 ronk           8.9/8.9/3.8 m_b_metcalf 10.5/10.5/10.3 m_b_metcalf
    4.0/1.2/1.2 gsf            7.3/7.3/2.6 ronk           9.0/9.0/9.0 ronk        10.6/10.6/10.4 ronk
    4.2/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    7.4/7.4/2.6 Patrice        9.1/9.1/8.4 ronk
    4.4/2.0/2.0 gsf            7.5/7.3/2.6 ronk           9.2/9.2/9.2 gsf
    4.5/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    7.6/7.3/2.6 ronk           9.3/9.3/9.2 gsf
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 1.2 4.8-5.1 5.4 5.7-6.2 8.1 10.7-11.4

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
        Mauricio        2     97    18h34m  dealer
         Patrice        3    427     1h07m  rare-0,pearl*2
          joel64        6    967    19m59s  rare-0*5,rare-1,diamond*4,pearl
     m_b_metcalf       17   1683     7m55s  rare-0,rare-1,rare-2*2,pearl*7
             gsf       14   2562    43m07s  rare-0*5,rare-1*2,rare-2*2,diamond*4,pearl*2,last-entry=404
            ronk       19   3047    34m07s  rare-0*10,rare-1*4,rare-2,diamond*4,pearl*8,highest-rating=281,se-mismatch*2
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               6       61   8783            rare-0*22,rare-1*8,rare-2*5,diamond*12,pearl*20


[gsf]

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000010000000234000008506200006070500040000010800000006005020700080000040600000008 1.7/1.5/1.5
000010000000234000007506200006090800030000010700000002008050600070000030100000007 2.8/1.5/1.5
000010000000234000003506700005080900010000020400000007004050600020000070700000001 3.2/1.5/1.5
000010000000234000009506300003070800060000050400000002007050900080000040200000006 4.6/2.0/2.0
000010000000234000007506900002070800010000090400000001009020300060000040700000006 5.0/1.2/1.2
000010000000234000001506800003070600040000030200000009008050700030000020900000004 5.6/2.0/2.0
000010000000234000008506700009080400030000080200000005001040600050000020300000004 5.7/1.2/1.2
000010000000234000007506200009020800040000030200000005008090100030000060600000004 5.8/1.2/1.2
000010000000234000009506200002070500060000010400000006006020900010000060300000004 6.2/1.2/1.2
000010000000234000007506200005070800040000030200000005008020100030000060600000004 8.1/1.2/1.2


[Patrice]

::: comment :::

ronk,
just to understand the sequence of this page : did you erase one post between the 2 adjustments posted by G.r.emlin ? and why ?

::: comment :::

I've just a question bout the patterns Game rules

After making a submission a player may not make another submission until 10 minutes have passed and another player has made a submission. Game numbers 0 modulo 2 are lightning rounds (marked LIGHTNING) with the 10 minutes submission delay waived. In checking for consecutive posts by the same player, a syntactically correct submission is considered a submission, even if it is later tagged invalid.

...
...

If we follow the rule in citation, this last post from ronk is not valid, because there is no submission from an other player between the two ?!

Is there a skew somewhere or did I misunderstood the rule ?

Although this may not be what gsf intended, a submission with a mismatched Sudoku Explainer rating is obviously not treated as a "syntactically correct submission."