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Postby RW » Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:39 pm

coloin wrote:the total number of 6 letter words = ?

Note that it could also be a five letter word. The words in the puzzle seem to be an inconsistent mix of plural and singular form, some of the other words related to spam (enlargements, scammers) are in plural form.

Now to narrow down the possibilities of the exhaustive search...

1. At least on of the letters must be a vowel (assuming that the word isn't in Czech)
2. At least on of the letters must be a consonant
3. No letter may appear consecutively more than twice

Anybody up to do the maths for this?:)

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Postby JPF » Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:35 pm

RW wrote:Now to narrow down the possibilities of the exhaustive search...

1. At least on of the letters must be a vowel (assuming that the word isn't in Czech)
2. At least on of the letters must be a consonant
3. No letter may appear consecutively more than twice

Anybody up to do the maths for this?:)

243714720

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Postby coloin » Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:36 pm

Indeed

I got it slightly wrong [as ever]

If we say that there is probably 2 vowels - [I cant think of a word with more than 3]

There would be 21^4 * 5^2 * 15 = 72930375 poss combinations

Too many....

EDIT a quick reality search reveals less than 1 million total words

http://www.languagemonitor.com/

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Postby JPF » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:01 pm

I used 6 vowels : a,e,i,o,u,y

If we assume at least 2 vowels in RW's constraints, we get 129,076,320 solutions.

and coloin's formula is 15*(6^2)*(20^4)=86,400,000

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Postby underquark » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:31 am

SPAM
stocks
:D
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Postby JPF » Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:00 am

Congratulations:!:

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Postby MCC » Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:46 am

Well done underquark:D

coloin wrote:If we say that there is probably 2 vowels - [I cant think of a word with more than 3]

How about:
Booboo
Boohoo
Boogie
Bookie
Bootee
Boomer
Oolite
For starters:D


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Postby RW » Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:09 am

MCC wrote:Well done underquark:D

Agreed!
coloin wrote:If we say that there is probably 2 vowels - [I cant think of a word with more than 3]


Aeolia? Or how about the more common (very spam related) word beauty?

Well done on the calculations JPF, guess I have to verify them... My first attempts were horribly wrong, because I assumed that the alphabet had 9 vowels like I'm used to... When I got my English right, I got a lot closer, but I can't reproduce your results. [Edit: Found a mistake in my calculations... recounting now.][Edit 2: Yes, you were correct! Congratulations!]

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Postby udosuk » Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:19 am

Thanks underquark!:)

I did feel a bit disappointed at that answer. But good call RW that it must have been a plural noun judging from the other links!

Also disappointed that there is no pop-up window with fireworks when all vertices are solved. I will actually disable the anti pop-up function for such a window!:)

Sorry no insight about the combinatory maths on English words... But here could be some 6-letter "words" without any of {aeiouy}:
shhhhh, psssst, pfffft, tsktsk, 1000th, 2001st, etc...:D

But according to urban legends I think there are actually 3 "dictionary" words of any number of letters:
cwm, crwth, xrxs (pronounced zerkcees)

:idea:
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Postby coloin » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:54 pm

Well done underquark.

Code: Select all
To solve the meta-puzzle, put the two left ones together and get something red. Add the top-right and get into the right state. Then add the last clue and you will win.


How do get we an answer from "x-files", "religious cult", "The '70s show" and "hospital" ?

How did you guess "The 70s show" even ?

Thanks for the fascinating exercise in litarary combitronics and all those words with vowels [booboo] !

Now...... who else solved this one I wonder ?

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Postby JL » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:45 pm

That '70s Show was a dead giveaway because the clue looked like this: ".... '70. ....".
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Postby RW » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:35 pm

udosuk wrote:But according to urban legends I think there are actually 3 "dictionary" words of any number of letters:
cwm, crwth, xrxs (pronounced zerkcees)

:idea:

I'm afraid none of those shows up in my Oxford dictionary of current English. And I'm even more afraid that it won't be long until "words" like WTF, BBL, PLS, THX and RTFM start showing up in dictionaries...

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Postby udosuk » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:18 pm

RW wrote:And I'm even more afraid that it won't be long until "words" like WTF, BBL, PLS, THX and RTFM start showing up in dictionaries...

For the abbreviationally-challenged:

WTF = what the freak/flock
(or some other w-words such as who, where, why etc depending on situation,
and some other f-words depending on your mood:D )

BBL = be back later

PLS = please

THX = thanks

RTFM = read the fine/friendly manual (or some other f-words depending on your mood:D )

:idea:

I wonder why nobody tries that 2nd game at the site?:?:
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Postby underquark » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:26 pm

I have to admit; all I did was look at my spam mail for the past week. I tried shares and then remembered most were American-oriented so "stocks" it was.

BTW, I believe "nth" is accepted in several dictionaries now as a word with no vowels.
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Postby coloin » Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:43 pm

Nice to hear how you got it underquark

Well Im a bit disappointed about this metapuzzle now - now that I have been enlightened

I have just found this review of the game - and all the answers are there !

http://jayisgames.com/archives/2006/09/funny_farm.php

[Wisconsin Hospital !

[google : "x-files religious cult red" ]

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