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Postby wapati » Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:45 pm

A Swordfish in this one, an xyz and some finned x things.:)
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. . 7|. . 4|8 . .
. . .|7 . .|. 3 .
9 . .|. 5 .|6 . 4
-----+-----+-----
. 6 .|. 4 .|. . 7
. . 1|9 . 6|3 . .
5 . .|. 7 .|. 1 .
-----+-----+-----
2 . 6|. 3 .|. . 8
. 5 .|. . 8|. . .
. . 3|6 . .|5 . .
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Postby Carcul » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:57 am

Rep'nA wrote:I don't understand your solution. How do you get the first 'or' statement?


ATILA.

Rep'nA wrote:And how do you conclude r6c1 = 2 from your two 'or' assertions?


Look how the "2s" are distributed in rows 6 and 9. What would happen if r6c1~2?

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Postby Carcul » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:12 am

Wapati wrote:This one has a finned swordfish but it can be passed up and still solved using patterns. XYZs, and a UR or two.


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 *----------------------------------------------------------*
 | 128    1368   9  | 23678  278    2678 | 5      4      12 |
 | 5      36     26 | 236    4      1    | 8      9      7  |
 | 7      18     4  | 28     5      9    | 12     3      6  |
 |------------------+--------------------+------------------|
 | 9      178    5  | 178    6      78   | 4      2      3  |
 | 128    1678   26 | 4      1278   3    | 9      178    5  |
 | 128    4      3  | 1278   9      5    | 167    1678   18 |
 |------------------+--------------------+------------------|
 | 3      5      8  | 9      27     27   | 16     16     4  |
 | 6      9      1  | 5      3      4    | 27     78     28 |
 | 4      2      7  | 168    18     68   | 3      5      9  |
 *----------------------------------------------------------*

We have r5c2=6 or r9c4=6, and so r1c4/r2c4<>6. After that, the puzzle is solved with a BUG+2 (r6c9<>1) or an ATILA(1) over 7 cells (r6c1=1).

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Postby Carcul » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:37 am

Wapati wrote:x, xy, xyz and finned-x work on this one. Looks like a lazy 8


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 *---------------------------------------------------------------*
 | 234    24     5    | 9      1      3678 | 246    478    2378  |
 | 349    1      7    | 368    56     2    | 469    4589   389   |
 | 8      6      239  | 37     57     4    | 129    1579   12379 |
 |--------------------+--------------------+---------------------|
 | 6      5      29   | 27     4      17   | 8      3      1279  |
 | 1      278    28   | 5      3      9    | 24     47     6     |
 | 279    3      4    | 267    8      167  | 129    179    5     |
 |--------------------+--------------------+---------------------|
 | 37     789    368  | 1      679    3678 | 5      2      4     |
 | 5      2789   128  | 4      79     78   | 3      6      189   |
 | 34     489    1368 | 368    2      5    | 7      189    189   |
 *---------------------------------------------------------------*

Let's start by noting that if r5c2~7 then we have r9c2=9 or r3c5=7.
Ok. Consider the sets A(3,4,7,9)=[r279c1], B(2,3,4)=[r1c12], C(2,4,6,9)=[r12c7], and D(2,4,7,8)=[r5c237]. If r6c1=7 then A is locked => B locked => C locked => D locked on "2,7,8". So, r6c1<>7.
Now we have:

[r8c9]=9=[r9c89]-9-[r9c2]=9|7=[r3c5]-7-[r3c4]-3-[r34c3]-2-[r8c3]-1-
-[r8c9], => r8c9<>1 solving the puzzle.

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Postby wapati » Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:46 pm

Turbot, x-wing, xy and skyscraper.

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. . .|. 2 7|9 4 .
. . 4|. . 5|. 2 3
. 9 .|. . .|. . 7
-----+-----+-----
. . .|4 1 .|. 5 6
6 . .|7 . 9|. . 4
4 2 .|. 5 6|. . .
-----+-----+-----
9 . .|. . .|. 7 .
7 4 .|9 . .|8 . .
. 1 3|5 7 .|. . .
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Postby wapati » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:23 pm

xy, xyz, UR, Turbots/ER. Busy enough.
It looks like a braid but I didn't see a swordfish.:(

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7 4 .|. 5 .|. . .
8 . 2|. . 9|. . .
. 5 1|2 . .|. . .
-----+-----+-----
. . 3|8 6 .|. 2 .
2 . .|9 . 7|. . 6
. 6 .|. 2 3|1 . .
-----+-----+-----
. . .|. . 1|2 4 .
. . .|6 . .|9 . 1
. . .|. 4 .|. 6 3
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Postby wapati » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:41 pm

Nothing exotic, busy though.

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8 . . | . . 6 | 4 9 .
. . . | . 9 . | 8 . 5
. . 9 | . . . | . 3 2
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. . . | 3 8 . | . . 7
. 8 . | 1 . 7 | . 2 .
1 . . | . 6 9 | . . .
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7 1 . | . . . | 5 . .
3 . 8 | . 4 . | . . .
. 2 5 | 6 . . | . . 3
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Postby Carcul » Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:18 am

Wapati wrote:Nothing exotic, busy though.


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 *-----------------------------------------------------------*
 | 8      357    27  | 257    23     6   | 4      9      1   |
 | 26     367    1   | 247    9      234 | 8      67     5   |
 | 456    456    9   | 8      17     15  | 67     3      2   |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 24569  4569   246 | 3      8      24  | 169    1456   7   |
 | 469    8      3   | 1      5      7   | 69     2      469 |
 | 1      457    247 | 24     6      9   | 3      458    48  |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 7      1      46  | 9      23     23  | 5      468    468 |
 | 3      69     8   | 57     4      15  | 2      17     69  |
 | 49     2      5   | 6      17     8   | 179    14     3   |
 *-----------------------------------------------------------*

If r5c7=6 then {TILA(9): r5c1|r5c9|r8c9|r9c7|r9c1}. So, r5c7<>6 and the puzzle is solved.

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Postby Carcul » Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:47 am

Wapati wrote:xy, xyz, UR, Turbots/ER. Busy enough.
It looks like a braid but I didn't see a swordfish.


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 *-----------------------------------------------------*
 | 7     4     69 | 13    5     68  | 38    1389  2    |
 | 8     3     2  | 14    7     9   | 6     15    45   |
 | 69    5     1  | 2     38    468 | 3478  389   4789 |
 |----------------+-----------------+------------------|
 | 1459  19    3  | 8     6     45  | 457   2     4579 |
 | 2     8     45 | 9     1     7   | 345   35    6    |
 | 459   6     7  | 45    2     3   | 1     589   4589 |
 |----------------+-----------------+------------------|
 | 356   7     68 | 35    9     1   | 2     4     58   |
 | 345   2     45 | 6     38    58  | 9     7     1    |
 | 159   19    89 | 7     4     2   | 58    6     3    |
 *-----------------------------------------------------*

[r7c9]-5-[r2c9]-4-[r2c4]-1-[r1c4]-3-[r7c4]-5-[r7c9], => r7c9<>5 solving the puzzle.

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Postby wapati » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:26 pm

xy, multiple Turbots, skyscrapers and x-wings.

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.17..9..3
98..7....
5.3......
...78...4
.9.6.1.2.
6...92...
......4.1
....5..89
3..1..25.
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Postby wapati » Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:58 am

xyz, several xys and 2 xwings, and an ER/Turbot/or skyscraper.

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9 . . | 5 8 . | . 2 4
. . 8 | 2 . . | 7 . 1
. 2 . | 7 . 1 | . 8 .
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2 . . | 6 3 7 | 9 . .
. . . | 9 . 8 | . . .
. . 9 | 4 1 . | . . 6
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. 9 . | 3 . . | . 6 .
3 . 5 | 8 . . | 4 . .
8 4 . | 1 . 9 | . . 7
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Postby Carcul » Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:29 pm

Wapati wrote:xy, multiple Turbots, skyscrapers and x-wings.


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 *--------------------------------------------------------------*
 | 24     1      7    | 58     246    9    | 58     46     3    |
 | 9      8      246  | 2345   7      3456 | 156    146    256  |
 | 5      246    3    | 248    1      46   | 6789   4679   2678 |
 |--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
 | 12     235    125  | 7      8      35   | 69     69     4    |
 | 478    9      458  | 6      34     1    | 3578   2      578  |
 | 6      3457   458  | 345    9      2    | 13578  137    578  |
 |--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
 | 278    2567   2568 | 9      236    367  | 4      367    1    |
 | 1247   2467   1246 | 234    5      3467 | 367    8      9    |
 | 3      467    9    | 1      46     8    | 2      5      67   |
 *--------------------------------------------------------------*

[r6c7]=3=[r7c6](-3-[r7c8])-3-[r234c6]-6-[r1c5]=6=[r1c8](-6-[r2c7])-6-
-[(r7c8)](-3-[r7c5]=3=[r5c5]-3-[r5c79|r6c9]-5,7,8-[r6c7])-7-[r9c9]=7=
=[r9c2]-7-[r6c2]=7=[r5c1]-7-[r125c7]-1-[r6c7], => r6c7<>1,5,7,8.

After that, r2c4 must be "3", otherwise the puzzle would have more than one solution.

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Postby Carcul » Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:59 pm

Wapati wrote:xyz, several xys and 2 xwings, and an ER/Turbot/or skyscraper.


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 *------------------------------------------------------------*
 | 9      17     17   | 5      8      36  | 36     2      4   |
 | 456    356    8    | 2      469    346 | 7      359    1   |
 | 456    2      346  | 7      469    1   | 56     8      359 |
 |--------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 2      158    14   | 6      3      7   | 9      145    58  |
 | 14567  567    3467 | 9      25     8   | 125    457    235 |
 | 57     3578   9    | 4      1      25  | 2358   357    6   |
 |--------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 17     9      27   | 3      2457   245 | 1258   6      258 |
 | 3      167    5    | 8      267    26  | 4      19     29  |
 | 8      4      26   | 1      256    9   | 235    35     7   |
 *------------------------------------------------------------*

[r6c6]=2|3=[r6c8]-3-[r5c9](-5-[r5c2])=3|1=[r5c7]-1-[r7c7]=1=[r7c1]-1-
-[r58c2]-7-[r1c2]=7=[r1c3]-7-[r7c3]-2-[r7c9]=2=[r5c9]-2-[r5c5]=2=
=[r6c6], => r6c6=2 solving the puzzle.

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Postby wapati » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:10 pm

There is a finned swordfish here but it isn't needed.
Turbots and xys, mostly, and an x-wing.

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6 1 . | . 2 . | . 9 .
5 . . | . . . | . 6 1
. . . | 5 . . | 3 . .
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. . 3 | 2 5 . | . . .
1 . . | 3 . 4 | . . 9
. . . | . 6 1 | 7 . .
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. . 9 | . . 5 | . . .
8 5 . | . . . | . . 6
. 4 . | . 3 . | . 2 5
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Postby wapati » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:23 pm

This one has 3 finned-x-wings and a nice finned swordfish but,
you may chose to use 2 xy patterns and 3 turbots.

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. 1 9 | . . 8 | . . .
6 . 3 | . . 4 | . . .
5 8 . | 2 6 . | . . .
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. . 6 | . 8 . | . 2 5
. . 5 | 6 . 2 | 3 . .
2 3 . | . 1 . | 7 . .
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. . . | . 2 3 | . 6 4
. . . | 8 . . | 5 . 9
. . . | 9 . . | 2 7 .
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