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by **MCC** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:29 am

Is this anything to do with Giuseppe Piazzi :?:

Who discovered "Ceres" :?:

Has it anything to do with asteroids :?:

Has it anything to do with moons :?:

MCC

by **Myth Jellies** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:29 pm

MCC wrote:Is this anything to do with Giuseppe Piazzi
Who discovered "Ceres"

Has it anything to do with asteroids

No

MCC wrote:Has it anything to do with moons

Both Ptolemy and the "who" have their name plastered on ours.

by **underquark** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:15 am

Myth Jellies wrote:Both Ptolemy and the "who" have their name plastered on ours.

What? On Keith's drumskins?

by **underquark** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:33 am

Myth Jellies wrote:Both Ptolemy and the "who" have their name plastered on ours.

Anything to do with the ancient lighthouse of Alexandria? The builder - Sostrates - hid his name under plaster into which was etched the name of the Pharoh Ptolemy. Mind you, there were more than one Ptolemy.

http://www.unmuseum.org/pharos.htm

by **emm** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:24 am

You won't go far in astronomy
Before coming across dear old Ptolemy
He's one of the stars
With a crater on Mars
And a piece of the moon, if you follow me

Is the 'who' Copernicus? Want me to rhyme it?

Is the 'planet' Earth?

by **Myth Jellies** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:49 am

underquark wrote:
Myth Jellies wrote:Both Ptolemy and the "who" have their name plastered on ours.

What? On Keith's drumskins?

Keith Moon is not the "who".

underquark wrote:Anything to do with the ancient lighthouse of Alexandria? The builder - Sostrates - hid his name under plaster into which was etched the name of the Pharoh Ptolemy. Mind you, there were more than one Ptolemy.

The lighthouse does not figure in as far as I can tell. I am assuming that Ptolemy refers to Claudius Ptolemaeus, though it is true that there have been several prominent people with that name.

emm wrote:Is the 'who' Copernicus? Want me to rhyme it?

Is the 'planet' Earth?

Copernicus is not the "who". Feel free to rhyme it, though.

Earth is the "planet" in the clue.

by **udosuk** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:17 am

Well done emm for getting the correct planet... Now who "discovered" the planet Earth?

From this page, it seems Aristotle was the first to argue that the Earth was spherical, and Eratosthenes, Posidonius and El Mamun all had estimated the size of the Earth... And Christopher Columbus tried to prove it by attempting to travel around the world (though unsuccessfully), and Ferdinand Magellan's crew was the first to succeed in doing so...

Also, from this page, it seems the first one to suggest the Earth revolved around the Sun was Aristarchus of Samos the Greek astronomer... With this being his named crater on our moon... He also attempted to measure the sizes and distances of our moon and sun...

Another related person is Hipparchus... Who also has a named crater on our moon... And did similar works...

However, I also came across this page, which claimed nobody discovered the Earth, which is not a "planet" anyway...

So I still have absolutely no idea what is the answer...

by **MCC** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:04 am

Has this anything to do with Brian May - Musician/Astronomer :?:

MCC

by **underquark** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:07 pm

Anything to do with Arthur Dent et al. who discovered Earth in Hitchhikers'?

by **Myth Jellies** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:40 pm

udosuk wrote:Well done emm for getting the correct planet... Now who "discovered" the planet Earth?

From this page, it seems Aristotle was the first to argue that the Earth was spherical, and Eratosthenes, Posidonius and El Mamun all had estimated the size of the Earth... And Christopher Columbus tried to prove it by attempting to travel around the world (though unsuccessfully), and Ferdinand Magellan's crew was the first to succeed in doing so...

Also, from this page, it seems the first one to suggest the Earth revolved around the Sun was Aristarchus of Samos the Greek astronomer... With this being his named crater on our moon... He also attempted to measure the sizes and distances of our moon and sun...

Another related person is Hipparchus... Who also has a named crater on our moon... And did similar works...

However, I also came across this page, which claimed nobody discovered the Earth, which is not a "planet" anyway...

So I still have absolutely no idea what is the answer...

Since he has been mentioned by name here, I will assume that counts as a guess and confirm that Eratosthenes is the "who" :!:

by **udosuk** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 4:08 am

The result of shamelessly putting in any names you think could possibly be of relevance...

Is Posidonius related to the first 2 questions?

Is the "confirmed egglayer" the star Canopus or the Sun (ours)?

Are the Tropic of Cancer, Syene, Alexandria or Rhodes relevant?

Is Geodesy the main topic here?

by **emm** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 9:00 am

Seems like we’re solving this puzzle backwards.

Is 'the egglayer' Aswan - the modern name for the city of Syene, from which Eratosthenes measured the distance to Alexandria to calculate the Earth’s circumference.

An Egyptian of old, Eratosthenes,
Accomplished great feats with aplomb and ease.
He discovered the girth
Of our planet the Earth
Using distance and an angle of a few degrees.

by **Myth Jellies** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:08 am

udosuk wrote:The result of shamelessly putting in any names you think could possibly be of relevance...

Is Posidonius related to the first 2 questions?

Is the "confirmed egglayer" the star Canopus or the Sun (ours)?

Are the Tropic of Cancer, Syene, Alexandria or Rhodes relevant?

Is Geodesy the main topic here?

Posidonius is not related to the first two questions.

The confirmed egglayer is a thing of terrestrial origin (see below).

The Tropic of Cancer, Syene, and Alexandria are relevant. Rhodes is not.

Geodesy is a relevant topic. The three questions are not necessarily related except as specified by the riddle.

emm wrote:Seems like we’re solving this puzzle backwards.

Is 'the egglayer' Aswan - the modern name for the city of Syene, from which Eratosthenes measured the distance to Alexandria to calculate the Earth’s circumference.

An oxymoronic place is not much to go on. It almost has to be solved backwards.

Partial credit: egglayer = Swan = Syene (which also means swan) = Aswan. A confirmed egglayer would be ________?

by **MCC** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:07 pm

Myth Jellies wrote:Partial credit: egglayer = Swan = Syene (which also means swan) = Aswan. A confirmed egglayer would be ________?

Is Myth Jellies being pedantic?
Could the "A confirmed egglayer" be, quite simply, "A Swan" :?:

Eratosthenes was born in Cyrene(Syene) = Aswan = A Swan.
Although, to be accurate, a female swan is called a "Pen".

Eratosthenes took Cyrene(Syene), to be on the Tropic of Cancer in his measurement of the Earth.

Could the oxymoronic place be - Alexandria

Alexandria = Alex and Ria = (Alex - male), and (Ria - female)

Alexandria = male/female. (oxymoron).

MCC

by **udosuk** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:14 pm

Myth Jellies wrote:Partial credit: egglayer = Swan = Syene (which also means swan) = Aswan. A confirmed egglayer would be ________?

Is "confirmed" used in the Christian sense, i.e. blessed by a bishop, anointed with chrism/oil?

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