What am I? (3)

Anything goes, but keep it seemly...

Postby emm » Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:59 am

1. Re my song - this ain’t no pop pap. This is a classic! I gave you one great big clue – Bigger Bang! Here’s another – B is for Black. For those of you who are struggling here’s the second line 'Nah nah nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah nah naa-ah'.

2. Re MCC’s song - in Waltzing Matilda the swagman’s billy does not have a capital B - they were criminals not cannibals. A ‘billy’ is a tin can for boiling tea over a fire. This was a subtle tip-off. B is for Billy. This is a big clue.

3. Re the riddle – now we have a Billy and a Jenny, a male goat and a female ass - that 'sounds familiar'.:D

Are you a hybrid/crossbreed? A Gonkey or a Doat? With antlers - a Gonkedeer?
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Postby MCC » Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:04 am

emm wrote:2. Re MCC’s song - in Waltzing Matilda the swagman’s billy does not have a capital B - they were criminals not cannibals. A ‘billy’ is a tin can for boiling tea over a fire.

emm I copied the verse from 'The Oxford Dictionary of Quotations' and billy definitely has a capital 'B', this may be a fault on the Oxford Dictionary's part or this was how it was written.

Click here and sing along.

emm wrote:This was a subtle tip-off. B is for Billy. This is a big clue.

Oh no it isn't.

emm wrote:3. Re the riddle – now we have a Billy and a Jenny, a male goat and a female ass - that 'sounds familiar'.:D

This is unintentional, the last I saw of the Ass/Donkey it was sauntering of into the sunset.

emm wrote:Are you a hybrid/crossbreed? A Gonkey or a Doat? With antlers - a Gonkedeer?

No.

Also forget any form of the word 'neutral'.
It's not 'enter' or 'rental donkey'.

luna wrote:Could Jenny refer to tea as in s/he's a real tea-jenny

No. It's not a phrase I'm familiar with.

MCC wrote:'Heigh-Ho, Heigh-Ho it's off to work I go'.

Only a reference to going off to work, nothing else.

MCC wrote:Does some of this sound familiar?

No need to concentrate on this at the moment, it will become relevant later on.


I'm looking for one word consisting three syllables.


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Postby tarek » Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:51 am

hmmmmm,

still not clear to me......

I though of the Fairy Wren because....

neither friendly or unfriendly without you = Fairy
Jenny = Donkey but also ...wren
Waltzing Matilda = Australia
the Fairy Wren is a bird common to Australasia.....

I will try the Fairy another time (3 syllables this time)......
Jenny=Ass=Tail

so ...

I'm not sure if common use would allow this but sometimes two words with time can become one word.....

Is it Fairytale, it sort of strikes a chord with everything you said, the folksong....sounds familiar...

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Postby jimbob » Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:29 am

Some random thoughts on this :

neither friendly or unfriendly without you = detached

Jenny = spinning Jenny
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Postby MCC » Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:10 pm

tarek wrote:...
Jenny = Donkey but also ...wren

:D
tarek wrote:...Waltzing Matilda = Australia

Australia is a long long long way away.
tarek wrote:...I will try the Fairy another time (3 syllables this time)......
Jenny=Ass=Tail

so ...

I'm not sure if common use would allow this but sometimes two words with time can become one word.....

Is it Fairytale, it sort of strikes a chord with everything you said, the folksong....sounds familiar...

Afraid not.

jimbob wrote:neither friendly or unfriendly without you = detached

Detached is not the word but it's something you should be looking to do.

jimbob wrote:Jenny = spinning Jenny

No.

MCC wrote:neither friendly or unfriendly without you

It's staring you in the face right now. It could be said to be this:?:

Remember you're looking for syllables to make up a word.


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Postby emm » Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:35 pm

Did you know that the ‘Matilda’ part of Waltzing Matilda refers to the swag the tramp carried ie it was a romantic word for his bed-roll – if he was doing this riddle he would be singing ‘being with my Matilda helps.’:D

Waltzing means to ‘hit the road’. Very few Australians know this, even though they love the song and sing it at the drop of a hat, so I’m not surprised if you don’t. I’m a bit surprised that the OQD made a typo on the B though – there never was a William in the picture, as far as I can tell.

Anyways, back to the riddle. To recap - NOTHING we have said so far has been correct. Nil, nix, nada, null, naught.
So here’s a different tack –

Friendly / unfriendly = a judge, referee, umpire, assessor (or has the ass been given the boot?)
‘said to be this’ = both sides - anagram (udosuk:D )
‘staring you in the face’ = mirror image
'sounds familiar' = echo (haven't we said that before)

So how’s about reflection?
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Postby lunababy_moonchild » Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:40 am

Or render ?
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Postby MCC » Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:14 am

From the Owl and the Pussy-Cat by Edward Lear.
"The Owl looked up to the stars above
And sang to a small guitar,
'O lovely Pussy! O Pussy, my love,
What a beautiful Pussy you are.'"

Is this relevant? It is to the whole.

You are looking for a single word comprising three syllables.

With the riddle you'll find three words, which when, perhaps shortened, and joined will form the 'Word'.

Luna's half right. Try comparing it to a word that has been mentioned and only half proffered, also, I believe Ruud and Tarek have half offered it in their thoughts.

This
MCC wrote:neither friendly or unfriendly without you

With this
MCC wrote:It's staring you in the face right now. It could be said to be this.

When I said right now, I mean right now, this instant.

So, no mirror image or echo or reflection, and alas, 'Ass' has been given the boot.

Also, many thanks to emm for her knowledge on the ways and means of the Australian hobo.


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Postby emm » Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:06 pm

Well I'm familiar with Australian hoboes, but not with riddles evidently... we have lots of rens -

Friendly / unfriendly without you = i = frendly / unfrendly
Right now = current
Owl & Pussycat = serenade / a songbird = wren
Sounds familiar = rendition

- but how to tie them together - that's the problem. I surrender.
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Postby lunababy_moonchild » Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:19 pm

Detached has something to do with it and I think that ren could be the last syllable. It's also staring you in the face, so that could be obvious - if you see what I mean:D

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Postby MCC » Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:37 pm

emm you were so close with puzzles 1 & 2 and now, on the point of getting number 3, your thinking of surrendering.

emm look to what you have and compare it with the riddle.

In fact luna, ren is the second syllable.

I was going to go with 'Headless Jenny' but didn't.
Wren without the W = ren.
That's why I went with
MCC wrote:Does some of this sound familiar?

This also applies to the last syllable.


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Postby emm » Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:57 pm

I didn't really surrender, I was just fishing for a clue.:D

I’m in the ‘ring’ loop now (this may be heading up the garden path)

- the Owl and the Pussycat were searching for a ring
- staring you in the face = the forum
- a = without
- a = 1st & last syllables = sounds familiar

- ring / forum = arena
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Postby Ruud » Sat Apr 22, 2006 3:20 am

I second emm's answer:D

As for that song, emm, I found "The Lassie With the Black Hairy Assey".

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Postby MCC » Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:19 am

Warning: Rugby song alert.
Ruud is getting ruder.



MCC wrote:Does some of this sound familiar?

The operative words are 'Some' and 'Sound familiar'.
You know it applied to the 2nd syllable which produced Ren, I also said it applied to the 3rd syllable, if it applied to the 1st syllable as well then 'Some' would not be applicable.


It isn't Arena.

Split the syllables up and see how they match the riddle.

emm when you mentioned the forum you were being too specific, what are you looking at:?:
How are you able to do this:?: Think 30-40 years ago. (Not that I'm saying you were around at the time)



Somewhere in my meanderings there is a clue which one of you has picked up on but failed to take further.


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Postby jimbob » Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:34 am

So we have second syllable wren=ren

How about for the third syllable helps=aids=ades

So now we have ...renades

Could it be serenades?

How does this fit the first syllable clue? Thoughts here include screen or monitor or computer, which don't seem quite right.

Is this getting nearer or further from the answer?
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