dobrichev wrote:I can't decompress today's version of the zip file. Please check if it is damaged.
I rerun the zip compression and the load.
seems to be ok now
thanks a lot
champagne
dobrichev wrote:I can't decompress today's version of the zip file. Please check if it is damaged.
coloin wrote::::comment:::
anyway my main point is on the diagonal pattern analysis.
Based on the assumption that there will be probably be higher rated puzzles from patterns which actually have more puzzles in them......
..... it might be possible to look at all the patterns which can be derived from the 27-clue puzzles with only diagonal patterns here
if a pattern can be shown to be originatable from more of the 15 [that i found only] ED 27-clue diagonal patterns than others - then this pattern might have more puzzles. I posted a puzzle which was derivable from the only pattern of the 15 which isnt symmetric - and as this pattern had at least x2 puzzles than others [because of the lack of symmetry] - the 24 clue pattern did give good results - ie it had high ratable puzzles might have been game 125 - not sure though].
Many of the puzzles in the patterns game are purely derivable from diagonal clues.
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champagne wrote:we are very close now to switch to skfr ratings instead of SE ratings
ronk wrote:champagne wrote:we are very close now to switch to skfr ratings instead of SE ratings
A few points and questions:
1) What is the target date for an skfr executable on Windows?
2) Despite the slowness of SE, it would run on any machine with a JRE (Java Runtime Environment). Are there plans to release an skfr executable on anything other than Windows?
3) Has g.r.emlin even hinted that skfr might be applied to the Patterns Game?
4) Let's not discard the SE ratings that have already been done. Instead of that, let's have both ratings in the database for the forseeable future.
champagne wrote:ronk wrote:2) Despite the slowness of SE, it would run on any machine with a JRE (Java Runtime Environment). Are there plans to release an skfr executable on anything other than Windows?
point 2)
skfr is a C++ application. my friends in the team are pushing to have a DLL version and a thread safe program, but nothing is foreseen to work in a Java environment.
The last improvements in performances (mainly done by mladen dobritchev) push the overall project, if I am right, far far away of what can be done in JAVA
ronk wrote:champagne wrote:ronk wrote:2) Despite the slowness of SE, it would run on any machine with a JRE (Java Runtime Environment). Are there plans to release an skfr executable on anything other than Windows?
point 2)
skfr is a C++ application. my friends in the team are pushing to have a DLL version and a thread safe program, but nothing is foreseen to work in a Java environment.
The last improvements in performances (mainly done by mladen dobritchev) push the overall project, if I am right, far far away of what can be done in JAVA
I was not asking about skfr for Java, but rather for anything other that Windows. Even the DLL you mention is still for Windows, is it not?
I was not asking about skfr for Java, but rather for anything other that Windows. Even the DLL you mention is still for Windows, is it not?
20 3.40 2.60 1.50 1.20
21 11.30 11.20 11.10 11.00 10.80 ...
22 11.80 11.60 11.50 11.40 11.30 11.20 11.10 11.00 ...
23 11.60 11.50 11.40 11.30 11.20 11.10 11.00 10.90
24 11.40 11.30 11.20 11.10 11.00 10.90 10.80...
champagne wrote:with 20 clues, it's clear that the constraints to have a valid puzzle prevent to pass ED=3.4.
ronk wrote:champagne wrote:with 20 clues, it's clear that the constraints to have a valid puzzle prevent to pass ED=3.4.
Interesting, but what were the sample sizes of the 20, 21, etc. clue patterns?
20 29
21 2066
22 7021
23 16169
24 5066
25 7
26 9
27 30
28 24
37 1
........1.....234..13...52.....6..7...89......4...3..2..68......3...1..59...7.... skfr=11.8/11.8/11.7 (11.80;11.80;11.50;tarekdb;tarx0075;9;22)
dobrichev wrote:Hi,
Digging in the largest UA sets I found once more that they are statistically related to the hard puzzles.
From 10015528 puzzles generated directly from UA of size 60+ I got 15 puzzles with skfr rating of 11+, 6 of them are already included in champagne's collection and are 9 new (for me). Since skfr frequently rates the puzzles at about -0.1 compared to SE, the amount of SE=11+ is probably larger.
The skfr 10+ directly generated puzzles are 1083.
Next, I started crunching them and after 7-8 generations my list of skfr=10+ grew up to 28887 puzzles, incl. 104 11+.
At 4-th or 5-th generation the gotchi reinvented the #11 puzzle in champagne's hardest
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........1.....234..13...52.....6..7...89......4...3..2..68......3...1..59...7.... skfr=11.8/11.8/11.7 (11.80;11.80;11.50;tarekdb;tarx0075;9;22)
(for Champagne - an example where SE finds simpler path for ED, 11.5 instead of your 11.7).
At the weekend I am planning to see how the next generations are going, and after that I'll filter-out the known puzzles and send it to Champagne. SE rating process is still a big problem to me and it could break the exercise.