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by **CathyW** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:55 pm

OMG!! I was looking around for other sites producing "Killer Sudokus" and came across this http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~sumnumberplace/72629474/.

The 3-cell hint should read that they sum from 6 to 24 I think! But nonetheless an interesting challenge. Where to start?!

by **CathyW** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:41 pm

Well, I made a start and thought I was doing OK. But I've got stuck and seem to have gone wrong

Better sleep on it and try again tomorrow :!:

by **PaulIQ164** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:46 pm

Maybe I'm not following the rules properly, but what's the point in the 'cage' of five cells snaking from r3c3 to r2c6? It's not connected by < or > or = to any of the others, so what in... ah, just worked it out. It tells you there can't be a repeated number in the cage. Well, damned if I'm deleting this now I've typed it all out.

by **PaulIQ164** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:40 am

Well, me and my brother working together jsut solved it. I am basking in the smugness right now. Can you feel it?

by **emm** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:24 pm

Yes, Paul, actually we can. There’s a pinkish glow on the north eastern horizon. Yesterday the waters of the Pacific Ocean rose several degrees in temperature and flocks of migrating birds were thrown off course by the confusing sea change.

Just two questions.

1. Did you think this was a clear direction?

The equal sign and the sign of inequality are "large > small" if there are "=" and a difference if the harmony of the entering figure is equal to the sum area enclosed with the dotted line.

2. To paraphrase Cathy - where to start?

by **PaulIQ164** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:58 pm

1. Not exactly. To be honest, I'm not sure I read it.

2. As I recall, the 15-cage in box 6 (and those that are linked to it) is a good place to start thinking about.

by **CathyW** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:23 pm

Smugness, Smugness!!! I did it!!! - all by myself too

albeit at the second attempt. Very satisfying.

I guess the written instructions lost something in translation!

Box 6 is definitely the place to start - it has to be 15 for the cage of 5 cells because you have two 2-cell cages that have to be greater so those have to be 16 and 17.

by **emm** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:35 am

I want to be smug too! But alas almost finished and no place for an 8 in col 2! Aarrgghh! I am going to get this - what's the chance I can backtrack?!?

Thanks for the tip. And yes ignore the instructions - they have been changed today anyway, to the equally enigmatic

The printed top left-hand number by dotted lines is sum of numbers in joined squares. But sum of numbers is not printed at all.

by **MCC** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:44 pm

It has been changed again to:

(The sum of numbers in joined squares of dotted lines is not printed at all.)

I think they are watching this site.

Also a second grid has been posted.

by **CathyW** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:31 pm

Good grief - think I'll have to save that one for the weekend :!:

by **emm** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:41 pm

A second grid! Oh, no!

I got up early to have another go at the first grid and guess what - I found a naked quintle - I must be on the right track!

by **MCC** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:46 pm

em wrote:...naked quintle - ...

I thought they were extinct.
em, being the finder you could have it named after you

by **emm** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:56 pm

Would you please stop distracting me!

by **PaulIQ164** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:34 pm

We just did the second one here at Chez Paul.

by **emm** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:40 pm

Va te faire foutre!

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