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[gsf]

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. 7 3 . . . . . 6  ED=5.0/1.2/1.2

[joel64]

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[champagne]

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2..5....4
.....473.
....6..1.
.....1.4.
....7.5..
.9.2....1
4.1......
7..3.....
.52.....8  ED=5.6/3.4/2.6

[gsf]

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. 7 5 . . . . . 8  ED=4.2/4.0/2.6

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0112 status LIGHTNING 2010-07-21+18:11:22-0000 :::

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game 0112 2010-07-20+04:00:00-0000 LIGHTNING duration 1d14h dealer tarek pages 572-580 (open) 5 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 joel64         4.5/2.8/2.8 m_b_metcalf    7.4/7.4/7.4 m_b_metcalf    9.1/9.1/9.1 joel64
    1.5/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    4.6/1.2/1.2 gsf            7.5/7.5/7.3 champagne      9.2/9.2/9.2 joel64
    1.7/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    4.7/1.2/1.2 joel64         7.6/7.6/7.6 m_b_metcalf    9.3/9.3/9.3 champagne
    2.0/2.0/2.0 joel64         5.0/1.2/1.2 gsf            7.7/7.4/7.1 champagne      9.4/9.4/9.4 champagne
    2.3/1.2/1.2 tarek          5.2/2.0/2.0 joel64         7.8/7.8/3.4 joel64         9.5/9.5/9.4 m_b_metcalf
    2.5/2.5/2.5 champagne      5.6/3.4/2.6 champagne      7.9/7.2/2.8 joel64         9.6/9.6/9.4 champagne
    2.6/2.5/2.5 m_b_metcalf    5.7/2.0/2.0 joel64         8.0/3.4/2.6 m_b_metcalf    9.7/9.7/8.4 joel64
    2.8/2.8/2.8 joel64         6.5/2.8/2.8 m_b_metcalf    8.2/7.3/7.3 joel64         9.8/9.8/9.5 champagne
    3.0/2.8/2.8 champagne      6.6/4.0/2.6 champagne      8.3/8.3/8.3 m_b_metcalf    9.9/9.9/9.8 m_b_metcalf
    3.2/2.8/2.6 champagne      6.7/2.8/2.8 m_b_metcalf    8.4/8.4/8.4 joel64       10.0/10.0/9.9 champagne
    3.4/3.4/3.4 joel64         6.8/2.0/2.0 joel64         8.5/8.5/8.5 m_b_metcalf  10.1/10.1/9.7 champagne
    3.6/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    6.9/2.0/2.0 champagne      8.6/8.6/8.5 champagne    10.2/10.2/3.4 champagne
    3.8/2.8/2.8 joel64         7.0/2.8/2.8 m_b_metcalf    8.7/8.7/8.4 joel64       10.3/10.3/9.8 m_b_metcalf
    4.0/4.0/2.6 joel64         7.1/7.1/7.1 champagne      8.8/8.8/8.4 joel64       10.4/10.4/9.9 m_b_metcalf
    4.2/4.0/2.6 gsf            7.2/7.2/7.2 champagne      8.9/8.9/8.9 champagne    10.5/10.5/9.8 champagne
    4.4/3.4/2.8 champagne      7.3/7.3/7.3 joel64         9.0/9.0/9.0 joel64      10.6/10.6/10.5 champagne
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    open ratings : 4.8 4.9 5.1 5.4 5.8-6.2 8.1 10.7-11.4

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
           tarek        1    -19         0  dealer
             gsf        3    678    21m59s  last-entry=346
     m_b_metcalf       17   1854    19m08s  rare-0*4,rare-1*5,diamond*4,pearl*4
          joel64       21   2100    15m59s  rare-0*3,rare-1*2,diamond*7,pearl*5,dup-rating
       champagne       22   2883    52m56s  rare-0*3,rare-1,rare-2,diamond*6,pearl*9,highest-rating=229,dup-rating-tie,se-mismatch
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               5       64   7496            rare-0*10,rare-1*8,rare-2,diamond*17,pearl*18


[champagne]

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5..1....9
.....475.
....8..1.
.....1.9.
....7.4..
.9.2....3
1.3......
8..3.....
.75.....8  ED=4.5/4.0/2.6

[gsf]

:::comment:::

my version of se (1.2.1.3) rates this 9.8/9.8/9.3
can we get corroboration from the other players?

I am using version 1.2.1 (help file)
here the three puzzles I have in cahce (inclusding that one) rated 9.7 9.7 9.3

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6..4....2.....573.....9..1......1.9.....7.5...4.8....34.5......8..2......63.....8 9.7 9.7 9.3
2..3....5.....473.....9..1......1.9.....7.4...6.8....34.5......6..5......79.....8 9.7 9.7 9.3
2..3....6.....473.....9..1......1.4.....7.9...6.2....55.9......8..5......32.....8 9.7 9.7 9.3

I get 9.8/9.8/9.3 for the middle one

[champagne]

:::comment:::

I get 9.8/9.8/9.3 for the middle one

what make sense if, as i suppose, you are using the same program as gremlin.

We had already the automorphism problem, this is quite new although I did not start so long ago in that game.

Could you give the link tho the proper download for the game.
I do not see another possibility than to use all of us the same release of the program.

champagne

[champagne]

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5..3....6
.....471.
....9..3.
.....1.9.
....7.4..
.8.2....3
3.7......
8..6.....
.15.....8  ED=9.7/9.7/9.4

easiest way to go ahead. I take the penalty and I put that "quasi self trumping" puzzle.

[g.r.emlin]

::: adjustment 2010-07-21+20:15:00-0000 champagne consecutive-entry -50 :::

[champagne]

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::: adjustment 2010-07-21+20:15:00-0000 champagne consecutive-entry -50 :::

it seems I somehow lost where we are in our discusson
may be time to go to bed

champagne

[gsf]

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. 2 5 . . . . . 8  ED=6.7/6.7/3.6

[g.r.emlin]

::: rarity :::

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2010-07-21+20:43:00-0000 6.7/6.7/3.6 gsf rare ED seen 2 times before


[gsf]

:::comment:::

I get 9.8/9.8/9.3 for the middle one

what make sense if, as i suppose, you are using the same program as gremlin.

We had already the automorphism problem, this is quite new although I did not start so long ago in that game.

Could you give the link tho the proper download for the game.
I do not see another possibility than to use all of us the same release of the program.

the link is in the first post
I won't repeat it here in case it changes
its in this sentence: A modified Sudoku Explainer 1.2.1 determines these ratings.

[champagne]

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7..4....2
.....578.
....9..1.
.....8.9.
....7.5..
.6.2....3
4.9......
2..3.....
.15.....4  ED=6.2/1.2/1.2