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[JPF]

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 9 . . | . . . | . . 4
 . . 6 | . . 5 | . 8 .
 . 3 . | . . . | 2 . .
-------+-------+-------
 . . . | 6 . . | . 5 .
 . . . | 2 4 . | . . .
 . . 2 | . 7 3 | . . .
-------+-------+-------
 . . 5 | 4 . . | . 6 .
 . 7 . | . . . | 9 . .
 4 . . | . . . | . . 8    ED=3.4/1.2/1.2


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[m_b_metcalf]

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 1 . . . . . . . 2
 . . 3 . . 4 . 5 .
 . 6 . . . . 7 . .
 . . . 3 . . . 8 .
 . . . 2 7 . . . .
 . . 4 . 5 1 . . .
 . . 5 6 . . . 3 .
 . 7 . . . . 2 . .
 2 . . . . . . . 1   ED=6.2/1.2/1.2

[JPF]

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 7 . . | . . . | . . 9
 . . 1 | . . 4 | . 3 .
 . 8 . | . . . | 5 . .
-------+-------+-------
 . . . | 1 . . | . 4 .
 . . . | 6 9 . | . . .
 . . 2 | . 7 3 | . . .
-------+-------+-------
 . . 4 | 3 . . | . 2 .
 . 5 . | . . . | 9 . .
 9 . . | . . . | . . 5    ED=6.9/1.2/1.2


JPF

[m_b_metcalf]

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 1 . . . . . . . 2
 . . 3 . . 4 . 5 .
 . 2 . . . . 6 . .
 . . . 5 . . . 7 .
 . . . 7 6 . . . .
 . . 4 . 2 8 . . .
 . . 5 3 . . . 4 .
 . 6 . . . . 9 . .
 2 . . . . . . . 1   ED=3.8/1.2/1.2

[JPF]

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 9 . . | . . . | . . 6
 . . 3 | . . 8 | . 5 .
 . 4 . | . . . | 1 . .
-------+-------+-------
 . . . | 2 . . | . 3 .
 . . . | 3 4 . | . . .
 . . 8 | . 6 7 | . . .
-------+-------+-------
 . . 2 | 5 . . | . 8 .
 . 9 . | . . . | 4 . .
 6 . . | . . . | . . 9    ED=8.7/1.2/1.2


JPF

[m_b_metcalf]

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 1 . . . . . . . 2
 . . 3 . . 4 . 5 .
 . 6 . . . . 1 . .
 . . . 1 . . . 3 .
 . . . 2 6 . . . .
 . . 4 . 7 5 . . .
 . . 5 3 . . . 8 .
 . 1 . . . . 7 . .
 2 . . . . . . . 6   ED=4.7/1.2/1.2

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0463 status 2022-05-12+21:00:00-0000 :::

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game 0463 2022-05-11+21:00:00-0000 duration 23h58m dealer m_b_metcalf pages 3470-3476 (open) 3 players
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    1.5/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    5.6/1.2/1.2 JPF            7.8/7.4/7.4 JPF            9.5/9.5/9.3 Hajime
    1.7/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    5.7/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.9/1.2/1.2 JPF            9.6/9.6/9.3 JPF
    2.0/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    6.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    8.0/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    9.7/9.7/9.4 m_b_metcalf
    2.3/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    6.5/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    8.2/1.2/1.2 JPF            9.8/9.8/3.4 JPF
    2.6/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    6.6/1.2/1.2 JPF            8.3/8.3/8.3 JPF            9.9/9.9/9.2 JPF
    2.8/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    6.7/1.2/1.2 JPF            8.4/8.4/8.4 JPF          10.0/10.0/9.3 JPF
    3.0/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    6.8/1.2/1.2 JPF            8.5/8.5/8.5 m_b_metcalf  10.1/10.1/9.3 Hajime
    3.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    6.9/1.2/1.2 JPF            8.6/8.6/3.4 JPF          10.2/10.2/9.3 m_b_metcalf
    3.4/1.2/1.2 JPF            7.0/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    8.7/1.2/1.2 JPF          10.3/10.3/9.3 m_b_metcalf
    3.8/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.1/1.2/1.2 JPF            8.8/8.8/3.4 JPF          10.4/10.4/9.2 m_b_metcalf
    4.2/1.2/1.2 JPF            7.2/7.2/7.1 m_b_metcalf    8.9/8.9/8.5 m_b_metcalf  10.5/10.5/9.2 JPF
    4.4/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.3/7.3/7.3 m_b_metcalf    9.0/9.0/8.9 JPF         10.6/10.6/10.4 Hajime
    4.5/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.4/7.4/7.4 JPF            9.1/9.1/9.1 JPF         10.7/10.7/10.4 Hajime
    4.6/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.5/1.2/1.2 Hajime         9.2/9.2/9.2 m_b_metcalf   10.8/1.2/1.2 JPF
    4.7/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.6/1.2/1.2 JPF            9.3/9.3/9.3 m_b_metcalf
    5.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.7/1.2/1.2 Hajime         9.4/9.4/9.3 m_b_metcalf
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    open ratings : 1.2 2.5 3.6 4.0 4.8-5.1 5.3 5.4 5.8-6.1 8.1 10.9-11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
          Hajime        6    466     8m54s  rare-2,pearl*4,dup-puzzle*2,dup-rating
             JPF       26   2281    16m25s  rare-0,diamond*4,pearl*8,highest-rating=51
     m_b_metcalf       30   2470    30m18s  rare-0,diamond*4,pearl*7,last-entry=246,dup-puzzle,dealer
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               3       62   5217            rare-0*2,rare-2,diamond*8,pearl*19


[JPF]

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 9 . . | . . . | . . 5
 . . 3 | . . 7 | . 6 .
 . 8 . | . . . | 2 . .
-------+-------+-------
 . . . | 5 . . | . 4 .
 . . . | 4 2 . | . . .
 . . 7 | . 9 3 | . . .
-------+-------+-------
 . . 6 | 9 . . | . 3 .
 . 7 . | . . . | 8 . .
 4 . . | . . . | . . 9    ED=2.5/1.2/1.2


JPF

[m_b_metcalf]

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 1 . . . . . . . 2
 . . 3 . . 4 . 5 .
 . 6 . . . . 7 . .
 . . . 1 . . . 3 .
 . . . 8 6 . . . .
 . . 4 . 2 7 . . .
 . . 5 3 . . . 4 .
 . 3 . . . . 2 . .
 2 . . . . . . . 6   ED=1.2/1.2/1.2

[JPF]

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 2 . . | . . . | . . 5
 . . 3 | . . 7 | . 4 .
 . 6 . | . . . | 1 . .
-------+-------+-------
 . . . | 5 . . | . 1 .
 . . . | 2 6 . | . . .
 . . 7 | . 4 9 | . . .
-------+-------+-------
 . . 4 | 1 . . | . 8 .
 . 3 . | . . . | 2 . .
 6 . . | . . . | . . 3    ED=3.6/1.2/1.2


JPF

[Hajime]

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 5 . . . . . . . 8
 . . 3 . . 7 . 4 .
 . 9 . . . . 1 . .
 . . . 4 . . . 2 .
 . . . 9 1 . . . .
 . . 4 . 2 5 . . .
 . . 6 2 . . . 3 .
 . 1 . . . . 5 . .
 8 . . . . . . . 9  ED=10.4/10.4/9.3

This one is completely different in box 5

[g.r.emlin]

::: adjustment 2022-05-14+07:50:00-0000 Hajime dup-puzzle -50 :::

[m_b_metcalf]

::: comment :::

::: adjustment 2022-05-14+07:50:00-0000 Hajime dup-puzzle -50 :::

Clearly, g.r.emlin has a porblem with this pattern. Here are two isomorphs of your submission, with different ratings. g.r.emlin prefers the first.

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.......12.....3.4...4...5.3..6..47...1..2....5..8.......9..6.3..2..5....8..1.....   ED=10.3/10.3/9.3
1.......2..3..4.5..6....7.....5...8....67......5.81.....98...3..7....1..2.......6   ED=10.4/10.4/9.3

[Hajime]

::: comment :::
A morph with different ratings (by PGExplainer with the same algorithms as SE) is curious.
Your example shows that this is possible, although the first puzzle does not comply with the pattern 463.
I submitted these 2 puzzle below, where different cells with 9,1 and 5 are all in box 5.

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5.......8..3..7.4..9....1.....4...2....58......4.29.....62...3..1....5..8.......9   ED=10.4/10.4/9.3
5.......8..3..7.4..9....1.....4...2....91......4.25.....62...3..1....5..8.......9   ED=10.4/10.4/9.3

These 2 are not isomorphic, are they?

[JPF]

::: comment :::
they are.
Here are their minlex:

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.......12.....13.4..5....6...3..71...2..6....8..4.......7..9.3..4..2....6..8.....
.......12.....13.4..5....6...3..71...2..6....8..4.......7..9.3..4..2....6..8.....


JPF