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[m_b_metcalf]

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 2 . . 7 . . . . .   ED=8.2/8.2/3.8

[JPF]

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 . 7 . | . 9 . | 5 . .
 . . 6 | . . . | . 1 .
 3 . . | 2 . . | . . .    ED=8.9/8.9/8.4


JPF

[Hajime]

::: adjustment 2022-04-26+09:58:00-0000 Hajime dup-puzzle -50 :::

Your puzzle is a rotated isomorph of the 10.0 diamond

Strange... I renumber/enumerate in reading order the givens of both puzzles in ascending order.
Kind of weak minlex.
Should be identical?

[m_b_metcalf]

::: adjustment 2022-04-26+09:58:00-0000 Hajime dup-puzzle -50 :::

Your puzzle is a rotated isomorph of the 10.0 diamond

Strange... I renumber/enumerate in reading order the givens of both puzzles in ascending order.
Kind of weak minlex.
Should be identical?

Sometimes that's insufficient - you have to perform a second renumbering of the puzzle in its reverse order.

[m_b_metcalf]

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 1 . . 3 . . . . .   ED=8.3/8.3/3.8

[JPF]

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 . . 9 | . 4 . | 7 . .
 6 . . | 3 . . | . . .
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 . 3 . | . 1 . | 2 . .
 . . 7 | . . . | . 4 .
 5 . . | 2 . . | . . .    ED=8.8/8.8/8.3


JPF

[JPF]

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::: adjustment 2022-04-26+09:58:00-0000 Hajime dup-puzzle -50 :::

Your puzzle is a rotated isomorph of the 10.0 diamond

Strange... I renumber/enumerate in reading order the givens of both puzzles in ascending order.
Kind of weak minlex.
Should be identical?

The safest way is to check if the proposed puzzle has no isomorph in those that have already been played.

JPF

[m_b_metcalf]

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 2 . . 7 . . . . .   ED=3.6/3.4/3.4

[JPF]

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 . 8 . | . 4 . | 9 . .
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 3 . . | 6 . . | . . .    ED=8.5/8.5/8.3


JPF

[m_b_metcalf]

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 2 . . 7 . . . . .   ED=5.6/3.4/3.4

[JPF]

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 . . 9 | . 1 . | . 3 .
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 . . 4 | . 6 . | 5 . .
 3 . . | 4 . . | . . .
-------+-------+-------
 . 9 . | . 5 . | 6 . .
 . . 1 | . . . | . 9 .
 4 . . | 3 . . | . . .    ED=8.3/8.3/7.3


JPF

[m_b_metcalf]

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 1 . . 7 . . . . .   ED=5.2/1.2/1.2

[JPF]

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 . 6 . | . 7 . | 9 . .
 . . 5 | . . . | . 1 .
 2 . . | 8 . . | . . .    ED=7.0/6.7/6.7


JPF

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0461 status 2022-04-28+09:03:05-0000 :::

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game 0461 2022-04-25+20:00:00-0000 duration 2d12h dealer champagne pages 3456-3460 (open) 5 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.2/7.2/7.2 1to9only       9.3/9.3/9.3 Hajime      10.5/10.5/10.5 Hajime
    1.5/1.2/1.2 champagne      7.3/7.3/7.3 m_b_metcalf    9.4/9.4/9.3 JPF         10.6/10.6/10.0 JPF
    2.0/2.0/2.0 1to9only       8.2/8.2/3.8 m_b_metcalf    9.5/9.5/9.2 JPF         10.7/10.7/10.6 m_b_metcalf
    2.3/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    8.3/8.3/7.3 JPF            9.6/9.6/9.4 Hajime       10.8/10.8/9.4 JPF
    3.4/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf    8.4/8.4/8.4 JPF            9.7/9.7/9.4 JPF         10.9/10.9/10.5 m_b_metcalf
    3.6/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf    8.5/8.5/8.3 JPF            9.8/9.8/9.4 m_b_metcalf   11.0/1.2/1.2 Hajime
    3.8/3.8/3.8 1to9only       8.8/8.8/8.3 JPF            9.9/9.9/9.5 JPF         11.1/11.1/10.6 m_b_metcalf
    5.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    8.9/8.9/8.4 JPF         10.0/10.0/10.0 JPF         11.2/11.2/9.8 Hajime
    5.6/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf    9.0/9.0/9.0 m_b_metcalf  10.1/10.1/9.7 JPF         11.3/11.3/10.6 Hajime
    6.7/6.7/6.7 m_b_metcalf    9.1/9.1/9.1 JPF          10.3/10.3/9.0 JPF          11.4/1.2/1.2 JPF
    7.0/6.7/6.7 JPF            9.2/9.2/9.2 m_b_metcalf  10.4/10.4/9.4 Hajime
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    open ratings : 1.7 2.5 2.6 2.8 3.0 3.2 4.0 4.2 4.4-5.1 5.3 5.4 5.7-6.2 6.5 6.6 6.8 6.9 7.1 7.4-8.1 8.6 8.7 10.2 11.5-11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
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       champagne        1    -19         0  dealer
        1to9only        3    202    13m39s  diamond*2
          Hajime        7    820     9m32s  rare-2*2,diamond*2,pearl*4,dup-puzzle
     m_b_metcalf       15   1295    45m02s  diamond*5,pearl*5
             JPF       17   2544    28m27s  diamond*3,pearl*12,highest-rating=113,last-entry=225
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               5       43   4842            rare-2*2,diamond*12,pearl*21


[m_b_metcalf]

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