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Re: Patterns Game

Postby JPF » Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:22 pm

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 . 1 . | . . . | . . 7
 5 . . | . . 6 | . . .
 . . . | . 2 . | 4 . .
-------+-------+-------
 . . . | 7 . . | . 3 .
 . . 4 | . 3 . | 8 . .
 . 9 . | . . 1 | . . .
-------+-------+-------
 . . 2 | . 8 . | . . .
 . 7 . | 4 . . | . . 9
 3 . . | . . . | . 2 .    ED=8.1/1.2/1.2

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Re: Patterns Game

Postby coloin » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:59 pm

:::comment:::
as an exercise I wondered how many ed puzzles there were with this 20C pattern ....
I am up to nearly 750K ... how many have others got ... or have you exhaustively searched ?
There of course finite numbers of minimal 19s and 18s within this pattern too .....
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Postby g.r.emlin » Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:40 pm

::: game 0389 idle 2020-07-09+22:40:04-0000 -- with no further entries the game will close at 2020-07-10+01:00:00-0000 :::
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game 0389 2020-07-03+22:00:00-0000 duration 3d20h dealer Pat pages 2986-2990 (open) 4 players
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    1.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    4.4/3.4/3.4 JPF            7.1/7.1/6.7 coloin         8.6/8.6/3.8 m_b_metcalf
    1.5/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    4.5/3.6/3.4 JPF            7.2/7.2/6.7 m_b_metcalf    8.7/8.7/3.4 m_b_metcalf
    1.7/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    4.6/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf    7.3/7.3/7.1 JPF            8.8/8.8/3.8 JPF
    2.0/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    4.7/3.4/3.4 JPF            7.4/7.4/6.7 JPF            8.9/8.9/6.7 m_b_metcalf
    2.3/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    5.0/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.5/7.5/3.8 JPF            9.0/9.0/6.7 JPF
    2.5/1.2/1.2 JPF            5.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.6/7.6/6.7 JPF            9.1/9.1/6.7 JPF
    2.6/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    5.6/3.4/3.4 JPF            7.7/7.7/3.4 m_b_metcalf    9.2/9.2/6.7 JPF
    2.8/2.8/2.8 coloin         5.7/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf    7.8/7.8/3.8 m_b_metcalf    9.3/9.3/3.8 JPF
    3.0/2.0/2.0 JPF            6.2/3.4/3.4 JPF            7.9/7.9/3.4 JPF            9.4/9.4/3.8 m_b_metcalf
    3.2/2.0/2.0 JPF            6.5/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf    8.0/7.3/3.4 JPF            9.5/9.5/3.4 JPF
    3.4/3.4/3.4 coloin         6.6/6.6/3.4 m_b_metcalf    8.1/1.2/1.2 JPF            9.6/9.6/3.4 JPF
    3.6/3.6/3.6 JPF            6.7/6.7/3.8 m_b_metcalf    8.2/8.2/3.8 JPF            9.9/1.2/1.2 JPF
    3.8/3.8/3.4 m_b_metcalf    6.8/6.7/3.4 m_b_metcalf    8.3/8.3/6.7 m_b_metcalf
    4.0/4.0/3.4 JPF            6.9/6.7/3.4 JPF            8.4/8.4/6.7 JPF
    4.2/4.2/3.4 m_b_metcalf    7.0/7.0/3.4 JPF            8.5/8.5/6.7 m_b_metcalf
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 4.8 4.9 5.1 5.3 5.4 5.8-6.1 9.7 9.8 10.0-11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
          coloin        3    -32     6m29s  diamond*2,pearl,bad-submission,se-mismatch
             Pat        0      0         0  dealer
     m_b_metcalf       25   1564    32m52s  pearl*13
             JPF       29   2371     1h01m  diamond,pearl*16,highest-rating=126,last-entry=179
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               4       57   3903            diamond*3,pearl*30
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Postby g.r.emlin » Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:00 am

::: game 0389 closed (idle for 2d06h) -- preliminary results :::
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game 0389 2020-07-03+22:00:00-0000 duration 3d20h dealer Pat pages 2986-2990 (final) 4 players
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    1.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    4.4/3.4/3.4 JPF            7.1/7.1/6.7 coloin         8.6/8.6/3.8 m_b_metcalf
    1.5/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    4.5/3.6/3.4 JPF            7.2/7.2/6.7 m_b_metcalf    8.7/8.7/3.4 m_b_metcalf
    1.7/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    4.6/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf    7.3/7.3/7.1 JPF            8.8/8.8/3.8 JPF
    2.0/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    4.7/3.4/3.4 JPF            7.4/7.4/6.7 JPF            8.9/8.9/6.7 m_b_metcalf
    2.3/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    5.0/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.5/7.5/3.8 JPF            9.0/9.0/6.7 JPF
    2.5/1.2/1.2 JPF            5.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.6/7.6/6.7 JPF            9.1/9.1/6.7 JPF
    2.6/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    5.6/3.4/3.4 JPF            7.7/7.7/3.4 m_b_metcalf    9.2/9.2/6.7 JPF
    2.8/2.8/2.8 coloin         5.7/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf    7.8/7.8/3.8 m_b_metcalf    9.3/9.3/3.8 JPF
    3.0/2.0/2.0 JPF            6.2/3.4/3.4 JPF            7.9/7.9/3.4 JPF            9.4/9.4/3.8 m_b_metcalf
    3.2/2.0/2.0 JPF            6.5/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf    8.0/7.3/3.4 JPF            9.5/9.5/3.4 JPF
    3.4/3.4/3.4 coloin         6.6/6.6/3.4 m_b_metcalf    8.1/1.2/1.2 JPF            9.6/9.6/3.4 JPF
    3.6/3.6/3.6 JPF            6.7/6.7/3.8 m_b_metcalf    8.2/8.2/3.8 JPF            9.9/1.2/1.2 JPF
    3.8/3.8/3.4 m_b_metcalf    6.8/6.7/3.4 m_b_metcalf    8.3/8.3/6.7 m_b_metcalf
    4.0/4.0/3.4 JPF            6.9/6.7/3.4 JPF            8.4/8.4/6.7 JPF
    4.2/4.2/3.4 m_b_metcalf    7.0/7.0/3.4 JPF            8.5/8.5/6.7 m_b_metcalf
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 4.8 4.9 5.1 5.3 5.4 5.8-6.1 9.7 9.8 10.0-11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
          coloin        3    -32     6m29s  diamond*2,pearl,bad-submission,se-mismatch
             Pat        0      0         0  dealer
     m_b_metcalf       25   1564    32m52s  pearl*13
             JPF       29   2371     1h01m  diamond,pearl*16,highest-rating=126,last-entry=179
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               4       57   3903            diamond*3,pearl*30
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby m_b_metcalf » Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:31 am

coloin wrote::::comment:::
as an exercise I wondered how many ed puzzles there were with this 20C pattern ....
I am up to nearly 750K ... how many have others got ... or have you exhaustively searched ?
There of course finite numbers of minimal 19s and 18s within this pattern too .....

I don't keep a count, but it's far less than that (in general, most puzzles of the form x.y/1.z/1.z never see the light of day). The real point is, did you find a new rating? M.
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby JPF » Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:37 am

::: more :::
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.1......22....5.......7.4.....5...9...7.6.8...4...3.....8.4.....2.1....39......8.  ED=8.6/8.6/6.7
.2......17....4.......3.4.....2...5...4.1.7...9...3.....3.9.....6.1....88......2.  ED=5.8/1.2/1.2
.1......89....3.......2.3.....6...2...4.8.5...8...1.....8.5.....5.4....97......1.  ED=4.8/1.2/1.2

I didn't count the number of ed puzzles and I stpopped the search rather early.

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Re: Patterns Game

Postby coloin » Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:02 pm

m_b_metcalf wrote:a The real point is, did you find a new rating? M.

nope ... all your puzzles and ratings were there, including JPF's more puzzles

I guess the less clues in a pattern the more puzzles with */*/1.2, and this pattern had more puzzles than your average 20 clue
58% had rating > 6.6
94% had *.*/*.*/1.2 ... which I usually exclude from furthur searching in trying to get harder puzzles

730000 minimal and non-minimal are in the list, there may well be significantly more ...
there were 38000 minimal 19C and 338 minimal 18C puzzles too
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby m_b_metcalf » Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:52 pm

coloin wrote:there were 38000 minimal 19C ... puzzles too

Some of which are surely listed in the Game 321 results. M.
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby coloin » Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:20 pm

yes ... all posted puzzles in game 321 [ i wasnt aware of that ] and also the posted puzzles for this game 389 were in the big list ... now 740K 20C puzzles.
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Postby g.r.emlin » Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:00 pm

::: game 0390 start LIGHTNING at 2020-07-13+10:00:00-0000 :::
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  22 champagne        26 ssxsssxs          4 Pat              87 g.r.emlin

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  19 TTHsieh           1 ravel            30 Mauricio         50 champagne        77 Pat
   1 claudiarabia      1 SCLT             33 JPF              58 tarek             8 ssxsssxs
   1 dobrichev         1 wintder           3 999_Springs       5 papy999           9 gsf
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Postby g.r.emlin » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:00 am

::: game 0390 open LIGHTNING 2020-07-13+10:00:06-0000 dealer ssxsssxs 22 clues diagonal (main) symmetry :::
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. 9 . 4 . . . . .
2 . . . 1 . . . .
. . 4 . . 3 8 . .
4 . . 8 . . 5 . .
. 8 . . . . . 2 .
. . 1 . . 7 . . 3
. . 3 5 . . 4 . .
. . . . 3 . . 7 .
. . . . . 9 . . 2  ED=1.5/1.2/1.2
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby 1to9only » Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:10 pm

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. 1 . 2 . . . . .
3 . . . 4 . . . .
. . 5 . . 3 6 . .
4 . . 7 . . 3 . .
. 8 . . . . . 1 .
. . 6 . . 9 . . 2
. . 2 3 . . 5 . .
. . . . 8 . . 7 .
. . . . . 5 . . 9 ED=10.8/10.8/10.8
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Re: Patterns Game

Postby m_b_metcalf » Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:46 pm

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 . 1 . 2 . . . . .
 3 . . . 4 . . . .
 . . 5 . . 6 7 . .
 4 . . 1 . . 6 . .
 . 8 . . . . . 9 .
 . . 2 . . 7 . . 5
 . . 6 5 . . 1 . .
 . . . . 3 . . 8 .
 . . . . . 9 . . 2   ED=9.9/9.9/9.9
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Postby g.r.emlin » Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:48 pm

::: adjustment 2020-07-13+15:46:00-0000 m_b_metcalf se-mismatch -100 :::
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Re:

Postby m_b_metcalf » Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:58 pm

::: comment :::
g.r.emlin wrote:::: adjustment 2020-07-13+15:46:00-0000 m_b_metcalf se-mismatch -100 :::

The same puzzle, renumbered, gives:
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 . 1 . 5 . . . . .
 2 . . . 4 . . . .
 . . 3 . . 6 7 . .
 4 . . 1 . . 6 . .
 . 8 . . . . . 9 .
 . . 5 . . 7 . . 3
 . . 6 3 . . 1 . .
 . . . . 2 . . 8 .
 . . . . . 9 . . 5   ED=9.9/9.9/9.8

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