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[Robbie]

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[m_b_metcalf]

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[Robbie]

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[m_b_metcalf]

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[g.r.emlin]

::: adjustment 2019-09-17+18:54:00-0000 m_b_metcalf se-mismatch -100 :::

[Robbie]

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[Robbie]

::: comment :::
SE mismatch ?

1.2 = hidden single in block
1.5 = hidden single in row or column ... the 11th move

Do you use a clone of SE ?

First diamond with SukakuExplainer,

[1to9only]

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Do you use a clone of SE ?

SukakuExplainer is a modified SudokuExplainer to handle pencilmark sudokus (sukakus) and first released (by me!) here. It struggles with the hardest sukakus, it will run for days rating a sukaku, before giving up with a sukaku rating of (something like) SE=20.0/1.2/1.2.

There's been work done (mostly by dobrichev and tarek) to improve (speed up) SukakuExplainer, see Help With Sudoku Explainer and Pencilmark only Sudoku.

SukakuExplainer is 'backward compatible' with SE, as noted here. Testing against pattern games submissions was suggested here, the results are awaited. There is plan here to use it in a patterns game. m_b_metcalf is first to use SukakuExplainer in the patterns game.

In limited tests, I've seen SukakuExplainer rating 30%-40% faster than SudokuExplainer.
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[pseudocoup]

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[Robbie]

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[m_b_metcalf]

In limited tests, I've seen SukakuExplainer rating 30%-40% faster than SudokuExplainer.

My own test of rating a small set of puzzles in the range SE 9 -10 showed Sukadu to be over 40% faster. The SE mismatch was likely due to a Windows I/O sychronization glitch that happens only with very low ratings, as here.

Mike

[m_b_metcalf]

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[pseudocoup]

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[Robbie]

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[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0361 status 2019-09-18+14:51:50-0000 :::

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game 0361 2019-09-17+01:00:00-0000 duration 1d13h dealer pseudocoup pages 2813-2817 (open) 3 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 pseudocoup     6.6/6.6/6.6 Robbie         8.5/8.5/8.5 Robbie         9.8/9.8/9.8 m_b_metcalf
    1.5/1.5/1.5 pseudocoup     6.7/6.7/6.7 m_b_metcalf    8.6/8.6/8.6 Robbie         9.9/9.9/9.9 Robbie
    2.0/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    7.0/7.0/7.0 Robbie         8.7/4.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf 10.0/10.0/10.0 m_b_metcalf
    2.5/2.5/2.5 m_b_metcalf    7.1/7.1/7.1 m_b_metcalf    8.8/8.8/8.8 Robbie      10.1/10.1/10.1 Robbie
    2.8/2.8/2.8 m_b_metcalf    7.2/7.2/7.2 m_b_metcalf    8.9/8.9/8.9 m_b_metcalf 10.2/10.2/10.2 Robbie
    3.0/3.0/3.0 m_b_metcalf    7.3/7.3/7.3 Robbie         9.0/9.0/9.0 m_b_metcalf  10.3/10.3/9.4 m_b_metcalf
    3.2/3.2/3.2 Robbie         7.4/7.4/7.4 Robbie         9.1/9.1/9.1 Robbie      10.4/10.4/10.4 Robbie
    3.4/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf    7.5/7.5/7.5 Robbie         9.2/9.2/9.2 m_b_metcalf 10.5/10.5/10.5 Robbie
    3.6/3.6/3.6 m_b_metcalf    7.6/7.6/7.6 Robbie         9.3/9.3/9.3 Robbie      10.6/10.6/10.6 Robbie
    3.8/3.8/3.8 m_b_metcalf    7.8/7.8/7.8 m_b_metcalf    9.4/9.4/9.4 m_b_metcalf 10.7/10.7/10.5 Robbie
    4.0/4.0/4.0 Robbie         8.2/8.2/8.2 Robbie         9.5/9.5/9.5 m_b_metcalf
    4.2/4.2/4.2 Robbie         8.3/8.3/8.3 m_b_metcalf    9.6/9.6/9.6 Robbie
    4.4/4.4/4.4 Robbie         8.4/8.4/8.4 Robbie         9.7/9.7/9.7 m_b_metcalf
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    open ratings : 1.7 2.3 2.6 4.5-5.4 5.6-6.2 6.5 6.8 6.9 7.7 7.9-8.1 10.8-11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
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      pseudocoup        2     95     9h49m  dealer
     m_b_metcalf       22   1963    47m29s  rare-0,diamond*19,pearl,se-mismatch
          Robbie       25   3659     2m15s  diamond*24,pearl,highest-rating=492,last-entry=248
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               3       49   5717            rare-0,diamond*43,pearl*2