The New Sudoku Players' Forum

[Robbie]

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7 8 . . . . . 1 9
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. . 5 . . . 3 . .  ED=8.9/8.9/2.8

[g.r.emlin]

::: rarity :::

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2019-01-06+20:25:00-0000 8.9/8.9/2.8 Robbie rare ED seen 2 times before


[Robbie]

::: comment :::
Generation stopped this morning
nothing better than x.x/x.x/2.8
and i've only 4 like this

Not an interesting pattern

But with the resign of qiuyanzhe we have only 4 active players (including the dealer) ; so I think we will wait 4 days for the end of this game exceptif everybody resign

[qiuyanzhe]

::: re-sign :::
So shall I..?

[Pat]

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 6 4 . . . . . 7 1
 . . . 6 . 2 . . .
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 . . . 8 . 3 . . .
 3 7 . . . . . 4 8
 . 5 4 . . . 3 2 .
 . . 6 . . . 7 . .

                      ED=5.0/2.3/2.3


as 1to9only said,
my puzzles can be traced back to dealer's puzzle.

used dobrichev's gridchecker.
but how to choose next seeds?
that's the mystery.

[Pat]

---I think we will wait 4 days for the end of this game
except if everybody resign

timeout = 4 days
up to 3 players;

having reached 4 players,
timeout is reduced to 24 hours
(subject to mysterious glitches)

[1to9only]

::: comment :::

but how to choose next seeds?

i use my own {-3+3} generator [pg0337 pass1: 537 puzzles with unique solutions]
gridchecker --pattern --patcanon and --solve -- minimal [leaves: 30 puzzles]
skfr for quick rating, sort the puzzles by ER/EP/ED rating, hightest rated is next seed, repeat...
i use: [windows] sort.exe, [gnu utils] grep.exe, uniq.exe, [freeware] cmsort.exe

if all players selected the same highest rated as next seed, we'll be finding the same grids...

[Robbie]

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2 7 . . . . . 8 1
. . . 1 . 8 . . .
. . . . 5 . . . .
. . . 3 . 7 . . .
6 4 . . . . . 5 9
. 1 5 . . . 6 2 .
. . 7 . . . 3 . .  ED=9.2/2.3/2.3

My highest, found 3 hours after beginning of the game
Bye bye for a month

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0337 status 2019-01-08+19:00:57-0000 :::

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game 0337 2019-01-05+18:00:00-0000 duration 3d00h dealer 200e200w pages 2666-2667 (open) 5 players
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    2.0/2.0/2.0 Pat            2.5/2.5/2.5 Robbie         5.0/2.3/2.3 Pat            8.9/8.9/2.8 Robbie
    2.3/2.3/2.3 Robbie         4.5/2.5/2.5 1to9only       6.7/1.2/1.2 qiuyanzhe      9.2/2.3/2.3 Robbie
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 1.2 1.5 1.7 2.6 2.8 3.0 3.2 3.4 3.6 3.8 4.0 4.2 4.4 4.6-4.9 5.1-5.4 5.6-6.2 6.5 6.6 6.8-8.8 9.0 9.1 9.3-11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
       ---------  -------  -----  --------  -----
        200e200w        0      0         0  dealer
       qiuyanzhe        1      4     3h37m 
        1to9only        1      9     2h18m 
             Pat        2     16     9h56m 
          Robbie        4    189     4h24m  rare-2,diamond,pearl,highest-rating=18,last-entry=9
       ---------  -------  -----            -----
               5        8    218            rare-2,diamond,pearl


[Pat]

::: resign :::

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0337 idle 2019-01-10+08:03:40-0000 -- with no further entries the game will close at 2019-01-10+11:00:00-0000 :::

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game 0337 2019-01-05+18:00:00-0000 duration 3d00h dealer 200e200w pages 2666-2667 (open) 5 players 1 resigned
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    2.0/2.0/2.0 Pat            2.5/2.5/2.5 Robbie         5.0/2.3/2.3 Pat            8.9/8.9/2.8 Robbie
    2.3/2.3/2.3 Robbie         4.5/2.5/2.5 1to9only       6.7/1.2/1.2 qiuyanzhe      9.2/2.3/2.3 Robbie
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 1.2 1.5 1.7 2.6 2.8 3.0 3.2 3.4 3.6 3.8 4.0 4.2 4.4 4.6-4.9 5.1-5.4 5.6-6.2 6.5 6.6 6.8-8.8 9.0 9.1 9.3-11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
       ---------  -------  -----  --------  -----
        200e200w        0      0         0  dealer
       qiuyanzhe        1      4     3h37m 
        1to9only        1      9     2h18m 
             Pat        2     16     9h56m  resigned
          Robbie        4    189     4h24m  rare-2,diamond,pearl,highest-rating=18,last-entry=9
       ---------  -------  -----            -----
               5        8    218            rare-2,diamond,pearl,resigned


[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0337 closed (idle for 1d16h) -- preliminary results :::

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game 0337 2019-01-05+18:00:00-0000 duration 3d00h dealer 200e200w pages 2666-2667 (final) 5 players 1 resigned
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    2.0/2.0/2.0 Pat            2.5/2.5/2.5 Robbie         5.0/2.3/2.3 Pat            8.9/8.9/2.8 Robbie
    2.3/2.3/2.3 Robbie         4.5/2.5/2.5 1to9only       6.7/1.2/1.2 qiuyanzhe      9.2/2.3/2.3 Robbie
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 1.2 1.5 1.7 2.6 2.8 3.0 3.2 3.4 3.6 3.8 4.0 4.2 4.4 4.6-4.9 5.1-5.4 5.6-6.2 6.5 6.6 6.8-8.8 9.0 9.1 9.3-11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
       ---------  -------  -----  --------  -----
        200e200w        0      0         0  dealer
       qiuyanzhe        1      4     3h37m 
        1to9only        1      9     2h18m 
             Pat        2     16     9h56m  resigned
          Robbie        4    189     4h24m  rare-2,diamond,pearl,highest-rating=18,last-entry=9
       ---------  -------  -----            -----
               5        8    218            rare-2,diamond,pearl,resigned


[1to9only]

::: more :::

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..1...6...36...59.45.....37...1.6.......7.......5.2...78.....46.13...95...2...3.. ED=9.3/1.2/1.2
..1...6...58...29.63.....18...1.7.......6.......8.5...19.....74.27...96...3...5.. ED=8.4/7.1/2.6
..1...4...35...27.42.....61...4.7.......1.......2.8...98.....32.13...85...7...6.. ED=8.3/7.1/2.6
..1...7...78...12.56.....89...7.9.......2.......4.3...12.....47.34...81...6...2.. ED=4.0/4.0/2.6


highest er, ep, and only pearl.

[Pat]

amazing.

did you get any x/2.6/2.6 ?

[qiuyanzhe]

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I haven't got one, and I am not looking forward to any x/2.6/2.6.
All pointings must be like (1@r89c3 + 1@r2c78 --> -1@r1c456), and the only usage of them are for direct hidden pairs/triplets in c456.
And one of my only 2.6 patterns as an example,
..3........2...13.45.....67...1.8.......2.........9...67.....48.31...2........3..

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There is a cell placement (r5c6=3), but a Deadly Pattern(@r37c456) is also formed, so it cannot be part of a puzzle.
If we move a 3 to r6c4, then there would be a Direct HIdden Pair in r3/r7..

P.S.: for this pattern, it is very likely for a puzzle to be minimal, while with 24+ givens and a normal pattern(no empty rows/cols/boxes) being minimal strongly restricts me, so I'm not investigating them.

P.P.S.: Pretty interesting that the 40000th post in this topic is a resignation..