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[GouinJP]

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+---+---+---+
|..1|..2|...|
|.3.|.4.|.5.|
|4..|6..|..7|
+---+---+---+
|8..|..3|.9.|
|..6|.8.|5..|
|.9.|2..|..3|
+---+---+---+
|6..|..8|..9|
|.8.|.6.|.7.|
|...|4..|1..|
+---+---+---+ ED=6.2/1.2/1.2


[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0335 status 2018-12-20+11:34:57-0000 :::

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game 0335 2018-12-18+21:00:00-0000 duration 1d14h dealer m_b_metcalf pages 2649-2654 (open) 5 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 Robbie         4.6/4.6/3.4 1to9only       7.6/7.6/7.6 1to9only       9.5/9.5/9.5 Robbie
    1.5/1.5/1.5 1to9only       4.7/4.7/3.4 1to9only       7.7/7.7/3.8 m_b_metcalf    9.6/9.6/9.6 champagne
    1.7/1.5/1.5 m_b_metcalf    4.8/1.2/1.2 1to9only       7.8/7.8/7.8 Robbie         9.7/9.7/9.7 champagne
    2.0/2.0/2.0 Robbie         5.0/1.2/1.2 1to9only       8.1/1.2/1.2 GouinJP        9.8/9.8/9.8 Robbie
    2.3/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    5.2/1.2/1.2 GouinJP        8.2/8.2/8.2 Robbie         9.9/9.9/9.9 m_b_metcalf
    2.5/2.5/2.5 Robbie         5.6/4.6/3.4 m_b_metcalf    8.3/8.3/8.3 Robbie      10.0/10.0/10.0 champagne
    2.6/2.5/2.5 1to9only       5.9/1.2/1.2 1to9only       8.4/8.4/8.4 Robbie      10.1/10.1/10.1 champagne
    2.8/2.8/2.8 1to9only       6.2/1.2/1.2 GouinJP        8.5/8.5/8.5 Robbie      10.2/10.2/10.2 champagne
    3.0/3.0/3.0 1to9only       6.6/6.6/6.6 Robbie         8.6/8.6/8.6 1to9only    10.3/10.3/10.3 champagne
    3.2/3.2/3.2 1to9only       6.7/6.7/6.7 1to9only       8.7/8.7/8.7 1to9only    10.4/10.4/10.4 champagne
    3.4/3.4/3.4 Robbie         6.9/1.2/1.2 GouinJP        8.8/8.8/8.8 1to9only    10.5/10.5/10.5 champagne
    3.6/3.6/3.6 Robbie         7.0/7.0/7.0 1to9only       8.9/8.9/8.9 1to9only    10.6/10.6/10.6 champagne
    3.8/3.8/3.8 Robbie         7.1/7.1/7.1 Robbie         9.0/9.0/9.0 1to9only    10.7/10.7/10.6 champagne
    4.0/4.0/4.0 1to9only       7.2/7.2/7.2 Robbie         9.1/9.1/9.1 m_b_metcalf 10.8/10.8/10.0 champagne
    4.2/4.2/4.2 1to9only       7.3/7.3/7.3 Robbie         9.2/9.2/9.2 1to9only    11.1/11.1/10.4 champagne
    4.4/4.4/4.4 1to9only       7.4/7.4/7.4 1to9only       9.3/9.3/9.3 m_b_metcalf
    4.5/4.5/3.4 1to9only       7.5/7.5/7.5 1to9only       9.4/9.4/9.4 m_b_metcalf
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    open ratings : 4.9 5.1 5.3 5.4 5.7 5.8 6.0 6.1 6.5 6.8 7.9 8.0 10.9 11.0 11.2-11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
     m_b_metcalf        8    597     1h24m  diamond*4,pearl,bad-submission,dup-rating*2,dealer
         GouinJP        4    657    38m09s  last-entry=325
          Robbie       17   1538    12m30s  diamond*15
        1to9only       25   2078    17m35s  diamond*17,pearl*3
       champagne       12   2591    56m54s  rare-1,diamond*9,pearl*3,highest-rating=628
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               5       66   7461            rare-1,diamond*45,pearl*7


[1to9only]

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. . 1 . . 7 . . .
. 6 . . 3 . . 4 .
7 . . 9 . . . . 5
1 . . . . 5 . 3 .
. . 2 . 4 . 5 . .
. 8 . 7 . . . . 9
6 . . . . 1 . . 3
. 1 . . 8 . . 7 .
. . . 6 . . 2 . . ED=7.9/7.9/3.8


[champagne]

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ED=11.1/11.1/10.4
is it yours mike? (other high ratings are coming)
Well done. This was coloin's original:
ED=11.1/1.2/1

the next lot had stuff to trump this 11.1 and the 10.8 (self trumping for me)
I had no more chances to get the 11.1/1.2, i cancelled this morning the search of such puzzles, after highly disappointing results yesterday.
I'll do one more cycle in the vicinity of the last high ratings, before game closure

[GouinJP]

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+---+---+---+
|..1|..2|...|
|.3.|.4.|.5.|
|4..|6..|..7|
+---+---+---+
|8..|..3|.9.|
|..3|.9.|7..|
|.6.|8..|..3|
+---+---+---+
|6..|..8|..4|
|.9.|.6.|.7.|
|...|4..|5..|
+---+---+---+ ED=5.7/1.2/1.2


[1to9only]

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. . 1 . . 5 . . .
. 9 . . 1 . . 5 .
3 . . 2 . . . . 6
9 . . . . 6 . 4 .
. . 2 . 4 . 7 . .
. 8 . 3 . . . . 9
8 . . . . 2 . . 3
. 1 . . 5 . . 7 .
. . . 4 . . 6 . . ED=8.0/7.8/7.8


[GouinJP]

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+---+---+---+
|..1|..2|...|
|.3.|.4.|.5.|
|4..|6..|..7|
+---+---+---+
|8..|..3|.4.|
|..5|.7.|3..|
|.7.|2..|..5|
+---+---+---+
|2..|..8|..6|
|.9.|.2.|.3.|
|...|5..|9..|
+---+---+---+ ED=5.8/1.2/1.2


[1to9only]

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. . 1 . . 8 . . .
. 5 . . 6 . . 1 .
3 . . 1 . . . . 4
8 . . . . 9 . 4 .
. . 7 . 4 . 5 . .
. 6 . 7 . . . . 2
2 . . . . 6 . . 1
. 9 . . 5 . . 7 .
. . . 9 . . 8 . . ED=6.8/6.7/6.7


[champagne]

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..1..2...
.3..4..5.
4..5....6
1....3.7.
..2.7.5..
.7.4....8
9....4..5
.1..8..4.
...6..9.. ED=11.0/11.0/10.8

quick and erroneous reading of this, not a trump of the 11.1

[1to9only]

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. . 1 . . 2 . . .
. 8 . . 5 . . 4 .
5 . . 7 . . . . 8
1 . . . . 6 . 3 .
. . 2 . 4 . 6 . .
. 6 . 9 . . . . 1
4 . . . . 5 . . 7
. 1 . . 6 . . 2 .
. . . 3 . . 8 . . ED=6.5/3.8/3.2


only trumps left! that's it!! unless another open rating truns up!

[g.r.emlin]

::: rarity :::

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2018-12-20+13:51:00-0000 11.0/11.0/10.8 champagne rare ED not seen before
2018-12-20+14:02:00-0000 6.5/3.8/3.2 1to9only rare ED seen 2 times before


[champagne]

only trumps left! that's it!! unless another open rating truns up!

6.0 exists. With this pattern, other entries below 6.2 should not be possible
and yes there are more than 15 possibilities to trump

[coloin]

:::comment:::
hard luck mike - that could have been worth 3000 points - if an 11.1 wasnt found
The original puzzle was in the the file_01 - and had a symmetrical pattern when morphed
here there are 192 or more "diagonal" patterns which have 25 clues
time will tell if they all have SE>11 there seems no reason why not ....

[qiuyanzhe]

First time making a post here
This is a 7.1/7.1/7.1(there's already a Robbie's puzzle of that difficulty)
It doesn't count, but I would like to share.

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..3|..9|...
.2.|.8.|.4.
1..|7..|..5
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4..|..3|.8.
..6|.2.|7..
.5.|1..|..9
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8..|..6|..3
.7.|.5.|.2.
...|4..|1.. 7.1/7.1/7.1
EDIT:this is NOT minimal.

Every box has 123/456/789, and it's almost symmetric(all but r2c8/r8c2).
I am not using a specific program for Patterns Game, so could only try the grids one by one. By random filling(avoiding Singles) I could get puzzles rated up to 8.4, with completely no control about Pearl/Diamond difficulty.

champagne wrote:(in Patterns Game Strategies)
I guess that the entry barrier is now so high that many potential new players just tried and gave up.

I admit, it seems that I am one of them.

[g.r.emlin]

::: adjustment 11h23m 2018-12-21+01:25:00-0000 C -50 :::