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[SCLT]

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. 5 . . . 9 . . 4  ED=6.7/6.6/3.8


[g.r.emlin]

::: rarity :::

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2018-07-21+17:31:00-0000 6.7/6.6/3.8 SCLT rare ED seen 2 times before


[999_Springs]

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. 5 . . . 4 . . 8  ED=4.4/4.4/3.4

nobody knows, mike, it's all a mystery. it could even be both. i also have a 6.9/6.8 unplayable for the same reason

[champagne]

nothing sucks more than having about a dozen skfr 8.6 diamonds and 8.6/8.6/8.5's that can't be played because explainer messes them all up

Hi 999_Springs,

I am working on a new clone of SE, currently drafting the new code in the 8.2 - 9.0 area (multi AICs in a cell or in a unit)
I was not expecting a significant deviation skfr to serate in this area. (contrary to what happens in the Nishio area 7.5 to 8.1 where I have surely to be closer to serate choices leading for example to the rarity of the rating 7.7 in serate )

could you give me some examples of such deviaions.

[champagne]

nobody knows, mike, it's all a mystery. it could even be both. i also have a 6.9/6.8 unplayable for the same reason

This came while I was writing the previous post. Here, it can be that the Yloop search in serate is missing some existing loops (and reverse). IMO, the Yloop search is a costly process for a computer, knowing that it has a XY chain easy to find. Nicolas Juillerat can have made some choices to reduce the search.

[champagne]

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.24.....5
.9....6..
7..9..4..
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..84..9..
5......7.
.3...8..1 ED=4.4/4.4/4.4

unexpected diamond

[999_Springs]

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>:(

i hate this game

(sent pm with the 8.6's from earlier)

[champagne]

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.42.....5
.6....1..
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..16..3..
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.9...2..6 ED=4.8/1.2/1.2

[papy999]

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[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0318 status LIGHTNING 2018-07-22+02:15:08-0000 :::

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game 0318 2018-07-19+22:00:00-0000 LIGHTNING duration 2d04h dealer coloin pages 2510-2517 (open) 8 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 SCLT           5.6/4.2/4.2 m_b_metcalf    8.0/8.0/3.8 papy999        9.6/9.6/9.3 m_b_metcalf
    1.5/1.5/1.5 SCLT           6.6/6.6/6.6 Patrice        8.2/8.2/8.2 papy999        9.7/9.7/9.3 papy999
    2.0/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    6.7/6.6/3.8 SCLT           8.3/8.3/8.3 Pat            9.8/9.8/9.2 champagne
    2.3/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    6.8/6.8/2.6 999_Springs    8.4/8.4/8.4 999_Springs    9.9/9.9/9.5 papy999
    2.5/2.5/2.5 m_b_metcalf    6.9/6.6/3.4 champagne      8.5/8.5/8.5 papy999      10.0/10.0/9.2 papy999
    2.6/2.6/2.6 champagne      7.0/7.0/7.0 Pat            8.6/8.6/8.4 papy999      10.1/10.1/2.6 champagne
    2.8/2.8/2.8 999_Springs    7.1/7.1/7.1 Patrice        8.7/8.7/8.7 papy999      10.2/10.2/2.6 champagne
    3.0/3.0/3.0 m_b_metcalf    7.2/7.2/7.2 Patrice        8.8/8.8/8.8 papy999      10.3/10.3/7.9 champagne
    3.4/3.4/3.4 papy999        7.3/7.3/7.3 Patrice        8.9/8.9/8.9 papy999      10.4/10.4/7.9 champagne
    3.6/3.6/3.6 Patrice        7.4/7.4/7.4 papy999        9.0/9.0/9.0 Patrice      10.5/10.5/7.9 champagne
    3.8/3.8/3.8 papy999        7.5/7.5/7.5 papy999        9.1/9.1/9.1 Patrice      10.6/10.6/7.9 champagne
    4.2/4.2/4.2 champagne      7.6/7.6/7.6 Pat            9.2/9.2/9.2 papy999      10.7/10.7/3.4 champagne
    4.4/4.4/4.4 champagne      7.7/7.7/7.1 papy999        9.3/9.3/9.3 papy999
    4.7/3.8/3.4 999_Springs    7.8/7.8/7.8 papy999        9.4/9.4/9.4 papy999
    4.8/1.2/1.2 champagne      7.9/7.9/7.1 papy999        9.5/9.5/9.2 SCLT
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    open ratings : 1.7 3.2 4.0 4.5 4.6 4.9-5.2 5.4 5.7-6.2 6.5 8.1 10.8-11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
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          coloin        0      0         0  dealer
             Pat        3    304    31m59s  diamond*3
     999_Springs        4    362    58m19s  rare-1*2,rare-2,diamond*2,pearl
     m_b_metcalf        6    402    37m06s  rare-0,diamond*2,pearl
            SCLT        4    448     1h23m  rare-0,rare-2*2,pearl
         Patrice        7    578     6m50s  diamond*7
       champagne       13   1909    57m23s  rare-0*3,rare-1,rare-2,diamond*3,pearl*8,highest-rating=174
         papy999       20   2744    35m53s  diamond*13,pearl*7,last-entry=313
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               8       57   6747            rare-0*5,rare-1*3,rare-2*4,diamond*30,pearl*18


[champagne]

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[papy999]

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[champagne]

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[papy999]

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[champagne]

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..78..1..
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.5...6..4 ED=3.2/3.2/3.0