The New Sudoku Players' Forum

[Patrice]

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. 2 . 4 . . . . 5
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. 7 . 1 . . . . 4
. . 3 . 4 . 5 . .
5 . . . . 7 . 8 .
. . 9 . 6 . . . .
8 . . . . 9 . 5 .
. 3 . 2 . . . . 6   ED=6.2/6.2/3.0

[Patrice]

::: commetn :::
There is a diamond 8.7

[champagne]

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1....2.3.
.2.3....4
....5.6..
.7.8....3
..9.2.8..
8....4.5.
..7.4....
4....6.9.
.8.2....1 ED=10.8/10.8/9.9

after a self trumping 10.7

[champagne]

There is a diamond 8.7

yes I have three of them

[Pat]

at this point,
everyone should be allowed to make the next submission

After any submission that is recognized as either good or bad,
you have to wait for another player to submit.

i still say
everyone should be allowed to make the next submission

maybe someone can find a suitable example
one way or the other

[Patrice]

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. 2 . 4 . . . . 5
. . . . 6 . 7 . .
. 8 . 6 . . . . 4
. . 1 . 4 . 6 . .
4 . . . . 9 . 1 .
. . 5 . 3 . . . .
8 . . . . 7 . 5 .
. 7 . 2 . . . . 3   ED=5.8/2.0/2.0

[champagne]

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1....2.3.
.2.4....5
....6.7..
.4.8....3
..9.2.6..
7....4.5.
..6.4....
4....5.8.
.3.7....9 ED=8.7/8.7/8.7

[m_b_metcalf]

at this point, everyone should be allowed to make the next submission

maybe someone can find a suitable example one way or the other

Well, all you have to do, as an act of self-sacrifice, in this game or the next, is to make a deliberate bad submission followed 11 minutes later by valid submission.

M

[Pat]

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 1 . . | . . 2 | . 3 .
 . 4 . | 5 . . | . . 6
 . . . | . 3 . | 7 . .
-------+-------+------
 . 6 . | 7 . . | . . 3
 . . 1 | . 4 . | 5 . .
 5 . . | . . 8 | . 6 .
-------+-------+------
 . . 7 | . 8 . | . . .
 6 . . | . . 3 | . 8 .
 . 3 . | 2 . . | . . 4

                      ED=1.5/1.2/1.2


here i easily arrange to get a penalty (duplicate)

now a quick, valid next submission
to prove it is exempt from penalty for consecutive-entry
(and equally exempt from penalty for premature-entry)

[Pat]

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 . 5 . 6 . . . . 9
 . . 8 . 9 . 3 . .
 9 . . . . 4 . 8 .
 . . 1 . 6 . . . .
 8 . . . . 5 . 7 .
 . 3 . 1 . . . . 6

                      ED=5.8/3.4/3.4


[g.r.emlin]

::: adjustment 2018-03-11+13:07:00-0000 Pat dup-puzzle -50 :::

[m_b_metcalf]

::: adjustment 2018-03-11+13:07:00-0000 Pat dup-puzzle -50 :::

Well done. You were right!

[champagne]

Thanks Pat I have to confess that I shared Mike doubts

[Pat]

and now i've also found
the earlier example

coloin got a penalty (duplicate)
and immediately made the next submission (2017.Sep.11)
which was accepted with no penalty (consecutive-entry)

[m_b_metcalf]

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 . 5 . 1 . . . . 8
 . . 8 . 5 . 6 . .
 9 . . . . 4 . 2 .
 . . 9 . 1 . . . .
 2 . . . . 9 . 5 .
 . 8 . 7 . . . . 9   ED=5.2/4.2/3.4