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[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0303 status 2018-02-04+14:22:33-0000 :::

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game 0303 2018-01-29+20:00:00-0000 duration 5d18h dealer 200e200w pages 2376-2384 (open) 4 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    4.5/4.5/3.4 Pat            6.9/6.9/2.8 champagne      8.5/8.5/8.4 champagne
    1.5/1.5/1.5 m_b_metcalf    4.6/4.6/3.4 Pat            7.0/7.0/7.0 champagne      8.6/8.6/7.6 champagne
    1.7/1.5/1.5 m_b_metcalf    4.7/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    7.1/7.1/7.1 200e200w       8.7/8.7/8.3 champagne
    2.0/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    5.0/2.5/2.5 m_b_metcalf    7.2/7.2/7.2 200e200w       8.8/8.8/8.8 m_b_metcalf
    2.3/2.3/2.3 m_b_metcalf    5.2/1.2/1.2 200e200w       7.3/7.3/7.3 m_b_metcalf    8.9/8.9/8.9 champagne
    2.5/2.5/2.5 m_b_metcalf    5.6/4.2/2.6 Pat            7.4/7.4/7.3 champagne      9.0/9.0/9.0 champagne
    2.6/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    5.7/2.3/2.3 m_b_metcalf    7.5/7.5/7.5 champagne      9.1/9.1/8.8 champagne
    2.8/2.8/2.8 m_b_metcalf    5.8/1.5/1.5 200e200w       7.6/7.6/7.6 champagne      9.2/9.2/8.3 champagne
    3.0/3.0/3.0 200e200w       5.9/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    7.7/7.7/7.1 200e200w       9.3/9.3/9.0 champagne
    3.2/3.2/3.2 champagne      6.0/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.8/7.8/7.8 m_b_metcalf    9.4/9.4/9.1 m_b_metcalf
    3.4/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf    6.1/1.5/1.5 champagne      7.9/7.9/6.7 m_b_metcalf    9.5/9.5/2.6 champagne
    3.6/3.6/3.6 m_b_metcalf    6.2/6.2/6.2 champagne      8.0/8.0/2.6 champagne      9.6/9.1/2.6 champagne
    3.8/3.8/2.8 m_b_metcalf    6.5/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    8.1/4.0/3.4 Pat            9.7/1.5/1.5 m_b_metcalf
    4.0/4.0/4.0 m_b_metcalf    6.6/6.6/6.6 200e200w       8.2/8.2/8.2 champagne     10.3/1.5/1.5 200e200w
    4.2/4.2/4.2 champagne      6.7/6.7/6.7 m_b_metcalf    8.3/8.3/8.3 200e200w
    4.4/4.4/4.4 champagne      6.8/6.8/3.4 champagne      8.4/8.4/8.4 m_b_metcalf
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    open ratings : 4.8 4.9 5.1 5.4 9.8-10.2 10.4-11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
             Pat        4    887     8m14s  rare-0,pearl*2,last-entry=292
        200e200w        9    896    12m15s  rare-0,rare-2,diamond*4,pearl,highest-rating=418,premature-entry,se-mismatch,dealer
     m_b_metcalf       26   1751    54m40s  rare-0,diamond*11,pearl*3
       champagne       23   3028    39m53s  rare-1*2,rare-2,diamond*10,pearl*11
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               4       62   6562            rare-0*3,rare-1*2,rare-2*2,diamond*25,pearl*17


[200e200w]

::: comment :::

::: adjustment 2018-02-04+14:18:00-0000 200e200w se-mismatch -100 :::

This way, I resign from further playing in this game. Tried protecting my 7.7, by posting a puzzle with sk_serate rating of 7.7, not knowing about the SE rating, instead of getting -50 penalty for self-trumping, got -100 penalty for SE mismatch, and did not protect my 7.7 (I'm sure it'll be trumped by a 7.7 diamond). So, always use Sudoku Explainer when rating a puzzle for submission!

200e200w

[champagne]

Protecting my 7.7 by self-trumping

Serate misses many 7.7 (assuming that the shortest chain must be taken), I got several 7.7 diamonds with skfr, but nothing better than your submission at the end.

[champagne]

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..1.....2
..234..1.
35...67..
.2.......
.7....6..
..8..4.9.
..6.7...1
.3...5...
8.....9.4 ED=4.8/2.3/2.3

[200e200w]

::: comment :::

...but nothing better than your submission at the end.

In reality, it is a 7.8. I used sk_serate rating (7.7) instead of SE rating, so I got penalty.

200e200w

[Pat]

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 . . 5 . . . . . 2
 . . 2 8 1 . . 5 .
 6 4 . . . 5 3 . .
 . 2 . . . . . . .
 . 8 . . . . 9 . .
 . . 1 . . 8 . 7 .
 . . 4 . 7 . . . 5
 . 6 . . . 1 . . .
 9 . . . . . 6 . 4

                      ED=5.7/4.0/2.6


[champagne]

::: comment :::

...but nothing better than your submission at the end.

In reality, it is a 7.8. I used sk_serate rating (7.7) instead of SE rating, so I got penalty.

200e200w

most of the skfr 7.7 end as serate 7.8. Following the assumed rules applied in serate, the 7.7 should be ok. Sometimes, a diamond 7.6 skfr can end as a diamond 7.7 serate

[champagne]

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..1.....2
..234..5.
45...67..
.3.......
.6....1..
..8..7.3.
..6.8...4
.1...9...
9.....6.5 ED=6.5/6.5/2.6

[Pat]

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 . . 1 . . . . . 2
 . . 3 7 1 . . 5 .
 5 6 . . . 2 4 . .
 . 7 . . . . . . .
 . 5 . . . . 3 . .
 . . 2 . . 1 . 8 .
 . . 6 . 8 . . . 3
 . 3 . . . 7 . . .
 4 . . . . . 6 . 9

                      ED=5.9/2.6/2.6


[champagne]

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..1.....2
..234..1.
45...67..
.7.......
.8....2..
..6..5.9.
..5.9...6
.2...4...
3.....8.1 ED=6.0/4.2/2.6

[g.r.emlin]

::: rarity :::

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2018-02-04+15:13:00-0000 6.0/4.2/2.6 champagne rare ED not seen before


[champagne]

Just to illustrat the 7.7 problem

An old stat (year(s) ago) from Mike on played submissions

7.7 diamond 26
7.8 diamonds 128

[Pat]

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 . . 1 . . . . . 9
 . . 2 3 1 . . 5 .
 5 4 . . . 2 8 . .
 . 2 . . . . . . .
 . 7 . . . . 1 . .
 . . 3 . . 8 . 4 .
 . . 4 . 9 . . . 5
 . 5 . . . 3 . . .
 9 . . . . . 6 . 7

                      ED=5.2/2.3/2.3


[champagne]

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..1.....2
..234..5.
63...74..
.2.......
.1....7..
..4..8.9.
..8.9...5
.6...5...
2.....8.6 ED=5.9/3.4/2.6

[papy999]

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. . 1 | . . . | . . 2
. . 3 | 2 4 . | . 5 .
4 2 . | . . 6 | 7 . .
------+-------+------
. 8 . | . . . | . . .
. 4 . | . . . | 5 . .
. . 9 | . . 4 | . 6 .
------+-------+------
. . 7 | . 2 . | . . 5
. 3 . | . . 9 | . . .
6 . . | . . . | 8 . 7  ED=8.5/8.5/8.5

I'm late in this game ... and I will be off internet again, but I've 16 more playables after 10 hours of generation
This game is not over if you look in the range 4.7->5.9 and 8.5->9.2