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by **JPF** » Fri May 29, 2009 9:26 pm

Code: Select all: . . 1 | . . . | . . 2 . 3 . | . . 2 | . 4 . 4 . . | . . . | 3 . . -------+-------+------- . . . | . . 1 | . 5 . . . . | . 6 . | . . 7 . 8 . | 3 . 4 | . . . -------+-------+------- . . 4 | . . . | 2 . . . 6 . | 5 . . | . 8 . 8 . . | . 9 . | . . 6 ED=3.0/3.0/3.0

JPF

by **mario133** » Fri May 29, 2009 10:07 pm

Code: Select all: ..1.....8 .3...2.4. 4.....3.. .....1.5. ....6...7 .8.3.4... ..4...2.. .6.5...8. 8...9...6 ED=4.2/3.0/3.0

by **g.r.emlin** » Fri May 29, 2009 10:13 pm

::: adjustment 2009-05-30+22:07:00-0000 mario133 self-trump -50 :::

by **gsf** » Fri May 29, 2009 10:14 pm

Code: Select all: . . 3 . . . . . 7 . 9 . . . 4 . 6 . 6 . . . . . 8 . . . . . . . 2 . 3 . . . . . 7 . . . 6 . 6 . 8 . 9 . . . . . 2 . . . 4 . . . 8 . 3 . . . 9 . 7 . . . 1 . . . 5 ED=2.8/2.8/2.8

by **mario133** » Fri May 29, 2009 10:17 pm

:::Comment:::

What is going on here self trump? I also have another puzzle that is 5.6/3.0/3.0 if I'm not mistaken if I put this one in I'll get self trump as well

by **JPF** » Fri May 29, 2009 10:31 pm

Code: Select all: . . 1 | . . . | . . 2 . 3 . | . . 4 | . 5 . 6 . . | . . . | 7 . . -------+-------+------- . . . | . . 1 | . 4 . . . . | . 2 . | . . 8 . 9 . | 5 . 3 | . . . -------+-------+------- . . 6 | . . . | 8 . . . 4 . | 8 . . | . 2 . 8 . . | . 6 . | . . 7 ED=2.6/2.6/2.6

JPF

by **gsf** » Fri May 29, 2009 11:10 pm

Code: Select all: . . 6 . . . . . 7 . 8 . . . 2 . 9 . 1 . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . 3 . 2 . . . . . 7 . . . 4 . 6 . 8 . 9 . . . . . 4 . . . 8 . . . 2 . 9 . . . 3 . 7 . . . 3 . . . 1 ED=2.5/2.5/2.5

by **m_b_metcalf** » Sat May 30, 2009 5:44 am

Code: Select all: . . 1 . . . . . 2 . 3 . . . 4 . 5 . 6 . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . 8 . 3 . . . . . 6 . . . 9 . 9 . 3 . 5 . . . . . 7 . . . 1 . . . 8 . 5 . . . 9 . 2 . . . 8 . . . 7 ED=9.7/9.7/9.4

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

by **m_b_metcalf** » Sat May 30, 2009 5:59 am

::: comment :::

mario133 wrote::::Comment:::

What is going on here self trump? I also have another puzzle that is 5.6/3.0/3.0 if I'm not mistaken if I put this one in I'll get self trump as well

g.r.emlin: in fairness to mario133, self-trumping is not allowed but I don't see that anywhere in the rules. Am I mising something or does that need to be explicitly stated?

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

by **Pat** » Sat May 30, 2009 6:34 am

yes, we all know it but it should be stated in the rules

in the earlier version of the game, gsf (2008.Jan.16) wrote:there is no incentive for a player to hold on to puzzles

I think pearls might provide the incentive

add one more rule:
any player may trump another player's submission with a higher pearl index
(players may not trump their own submissions)
a player that submits early and/or fast risks being trumped
a player that hoards risks being stuck with unplayable submissions if the game goes idle

this may also skew strategy to quality over quantity
and would definitely place a premium on strong pearls

by **JPF** » Sat May 30, 2009 6:56 am

Code: Select all: . . 1 | . . . | . . 2 . 3 . | . . 4 | . 5 . 6 . . | . . . | 1 . . -------+-------+------- . . . | . . 7 | . 8 . . . . | . 5 . | . . 6 . 5 . | 6 . 9 | . . . -------+-------+------- . . 2 | . . . | 9 . . . 8 . | 3 . . | . 4 . 7 . . | . 9 . | . . 1 ED=9.6/9.6/9.5

JPF

by **m_b_metcalf** » Sat May 30, 2009 7:08 am

Code: Select all: . . 1 . . . . . 2 . 3 . . . 4 . 5 . 6 . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . 8 . 6 . . . . . 1 . . . 9 . 4 . 7 . 2 . . . . . 2 . . . 4 . . . 7 . 6 . . . 3 . 8 . . . 5 . . . 1 ED=4.2/3.4/3.4

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

by **JPF** » Sat May 30, 2009 7:51 am

Code: Select all: . . 1 | . . . | . . 2 . 3 . | . . 4 | . 5 . 6 . . | . . . | 1 . . -------+-------+------- . . . | . . 7 | . 3 . . . . | . 6 . | . . 8 . 6 . | 5 . 3 | . . . -------+-------+------- . . 6 | . . . | 8 . . . 5 . | 4 . . | . 7 . 8 . . | . 7 . | . . 1 ED=7.6/7.6/7.6

JPF

by **g.r.emlin** » Sat May 30, 2009 7:55 am

::: game 0081 status 2009-05-31+08:51:07-0000 :::

Code: Select all: game 0081 2009-05-29+22:10:00-0000 duration 1d09h dealer gsf pages 230-233 (open) 5 players ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 1.2/1.2/1.2 gsf 5.6/1.2/1.2 mario133 8.8/8.8/8.8 gsf 9.7/9.7/9.4 m_b_metcalf 1.5/1.5/1.5 m_b_metcalf 6.7/6.7/6.7 JPF 8.9/8.9/8.9 gsf 9.8/9.8/9.7 m_b_metcalf 2.0/2.0/2.0 JPF 7.1/7.1/7.1 JPF 9.0/9.0/9.0 m_b_metcalf 9.9/9.9/9.9 gsf 2.5/2.5/2.5 gsf 7.2/7.2/7.2 m_b_metcalf 9.1/9.1/9.1 gsf 10.0/10.0/10.0 gsf 2.6/2.6/2.6 JPF 7.3/7.3/7.3 JPF 9.2/9.2/9.2 gsf 10.1/10.1/9.4 m_b_metcalf 2.8/2.8/2.8 gsf 7.6/7.6/7.6 JPF 9.3/9.3/9.3 gsf 10.4/10.4/9.4 JPF 3.0/3.0/3.0 JPF 8.3/8.3/8.3 gsf 9.4/9.4/9.4 m_b_metcalf 10.5/10.5/10.0 JPF 3.4/3.4/3.4 gsf 8.4/8.4/8.4 gsf 9.5/9.5/9.5 JPF 4.2/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf 8.5/8.5/8.5 gsf 9.6/9.6/9.5 JPF ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ open ratings : 1.7 2.3 3.2 3.6 3.8 4.0 4.4-4.8 5.0-5.2 5.4 5.7-6.2 6.5 6.6 6.8-7.0 7.4 7.5 7.7-8.2 8.6 8.7 10.2 10.3 10.6 10.7 submitter entries score response notes ----------- ------- ----- -------- ----- mario133 1 -48 59m59s not-minimal 999_Springs 0 0 45m59s m_b_metcalf 8 783 1h10m diamond*3,pearl*3 JPF 11 1096 37m04s diamond*7,pearl*3,highest-rating,last-entry gsf 14 1292 50m22s diamond*13,dealer ----------- ------- ----- ----- 5 34 3123 diamond*23,pearl*6

by **m_b_metcalf** » Sat May 30, 2009 8:13 am

Code: Select all: . . 1 . . . . . 2 . 3 . . . 4 . 5 . 6 . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . 2 . 4 . . . . . 7 . . . 8 . 9 . 3 . 5 . . . . . 7 . . . 8 . . . 4 . 1 . . . 9 . 8 . . . 6 . . . 1 ED=7.8/7.8/6.6

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

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