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[champagne]

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..12....3
.....45..
6......2.
3..1...5.
....7....
.5...8..4
.9......6
..23...1.
4....97.. ED=7.4/7.4/7.4

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0285 idle 2017-05-07+09:03:53-0000 -- with no further entries the game will close at 2017-05-07+12:00:00-0000 :::

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game 0285 2017-04-28+22:00:00-0000 duration 1w00d dealer Pat pages 2244-2248 (open) 4 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.2/7.2/7.2 m_b_metcalf    8.6/8.6/8.5 champagne      9.9/9.9/9.9 m_b_metcalf
    2.0/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    7.3/7.3/7.3 m_b_metcalf    8.7/8.7/8.7 champagne   10.0/10.0/10.0 champagne
    2.3/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    7.4/7.4/7.4 champagne      8.8/8.8/8.8 m_b_metcalf  10.1/10.1/9.9 champagne
    2.5/2.5/2.5 m_b_metcalf    7.5/7.5/7.5 champagne      8.9/8.9/8.9 m_b_metcalf  10.2/10.2/3.8 champagne
    2.6/2.5/2.5 m_b_metcalf    7.6/7.6/7.6 champagne      9.0/9.0/9.0 m_b_metcalf  10.3/10.3/9.7 champagne
    2.8/2.8/2.8 joel64         7.8/7.8/7.8 m_b_metcalf    9.1/9.1/9.1 champagne   10.4/10.4/10.4 champagne
    3.0/3.0/3.0 m_b_metcalf    7.9/7.9/7.2 champagne      9.2/9.2/9.2 m_b_metcalf 10.5/10.5/10.4 champagne
    3.2/3.2/3.2 joel64         8.0/8.0/3.8 champagne      9.3/9.3/9.3 m_b_metcalf 10.6/10.6/10.5 champagne
    3.4/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf    8.1/7.3/3.8 champagne      9.4/9.4/9.4 m_b_metcalf 10.7/10.7/10.0 champagne
    3.6/3.6/3.6 m_b_metcalf    8.2/8.2/8.2 champagne      9.5/9.5/9.5 champagne     10.8/1.2/1.2 champagne
    3.8/3.8/3.8 Pat            8.3/8.3/8.3 m_b_metcalf    9.6/9.6/9.5 champagne
    6.7/6.7/6.7 joel64         8.4/8.4/8.4 m_b_metcalf    9.7/9.7/9.7 champagne
    7.1/7.1/7.1 m_b_metcalf    8.5/8.5/8.5 champagne      9.8/9.8/9.8 champagne
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 1.5 1.7 4.0 4.2 4.4-5.2 5.4 5.6-6.2 6.5 6.6 6.8-7.0 7.7 10.9-11.4 11.6-11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
             Pat        1     37    16h10m  diamond,dealer
          joel64        3    104    52m59s  diamond*3,dup-rating
     m_b_metcalf       21   1773     2h31m  diamond*17,resigned-entry
       champagne       24   3546     1h24m  rare-2,diamond*12,pearl*10,highest-rating=305,last-entry=245
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               4       49   5460            rare-2,diamond*33,pearl*10


[Pat]

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 . . 9 2 . . . . 1
 . . . . . 4 6 . .
 8 . . . . . . 3 .
 1 . . 9 . . . 8 .
 . . . . 3 . . . .
 . 2 . . . 6 . . 4
 . 4 . . . . . . 7
 . . 3 1 . . . 5 .
 6 . . . . 5 2 . .

                      ED=7.7/7.2/3.8


[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0285 resume :::

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game 0285 2017-04-28+22:00:00-0000 duration 1w01d dealer Pat pages 2244-2248 (open) 4 players
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    1.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.2/7.2/7.2 m_b_metcalf    8.5/8.5/8.5 champagne      9.8/9.8/9.8 champagne
    2.0/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    7.3/7.3/7.3 m_b_metcalf    8.6/8.6/8.5 champagne      9.9/9.9/9.9 m_b_metcalf
    2.3/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    7.4/7.4/7.4 champagne      8.7/8.7/8.7 champagne   10.0/10.0/10.0 champagne
    2.5/2.5/2.5 m_b_metcalf    7.5/7.5/7.5 champagne      8.8/8.8/8.8 m_b_metcalf  10.1/10.1/9.9 champagne
    2.6/2.5/2.5 m_b_metcalf    7.6/7.6/7.6 champagne      8.9/8.9/8.9 m_b_metcalf  10.2/10.2/3.8 champagne
    2.8/2.8/2.8 joel64         7.7/7.2/3.8 Pat            9.0/9.0/9.0 m_b_metcalf  10.3/10.3/9.7 champagne
    3.0/3.0/3.0 m_b_metcalf    7.8/7.8/7.8 m_b_metcalf    9.1/9.1/9.1 champagne   10.4/10.4/10.4 champagne
    3.2/3.2/3.2 joel64         7.9/7.9/7.2 champagne      9.2/9.2/9.2 m_b_metcalf 10.5/10.5/10.4 champagne
    3.4/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf    8.0/8.0/3.8 champagne      9.3/9.3/9.3 m_b_metcalf 10.6/10.6/10.5 champagne
    3.6/3.6/3.6 m_b_metcalf    8.1/7.3/3.8 champagne      9.4/9.4/9.4 m_b_metcalf 10.7/10.7/10.0 champagne
    3.8/3.8/3.8 Pat            8.2/8.2/8.2 champagne      9.5/9.5/9.5 champagne     10.8/1.2/1.2 champagne
    6.7/6.7/6.7 joel64         8.3/8.3/8.3 m_b_metcalf    9.6/9.6/9.5 champagne
    7.1/7.1/7.1 m_b_metcalf    8.4/8.4/8.4 m_b_metcalf    9.7/9.7/9.7 champagne
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 1.5 1.7 4.0 4.2 4.4-5.2 5.4 5.6-6.2 6.5 6.6 6.8-7.0 10.9-11.4 11.6-11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
          joel64        3    104    52m59s  diamond*3,dup-rating
             Pat        2    431    19h44m  diamond,last-entry=250,dealer
     m_b_metcalf       21   1773     2h31m  diamond*17,resigned-entry
       champagne       24   3250     1h24m  rare-2,diamond*12,pearl*10,highest-rating=305
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               4       50   5558            rare-2,diamond*33,pearl*10


[m_b_metcalf]

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 . . 1 2 . . . . 3
 . . . . . 4 5 . .
 6 . . . . . . 2 .
 5 . . 3 . . . 6 .
 . . . . 1 . . . .
 . 7 . . . 8 . . 9
 . 9 . . . . . . 4
 . . 3 5 . . . 1 .
 2 . . . . 7 3 . .   ED=7.7/7.7/3.4

[champagne]

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..12....3
.....14..
5......6.
3..7...2.
....8....
.7...9..6
.2......7
..85...4.
1....39.. ED=7.0/7.0/7.0

[Pat]

game 41

..12......3...45..4......6.6..1...7.....8.....9...3..8.5......4..27...1......89.. 10.7/10.7/10.4 Mauricio

..72......5...43..1......6.6..1...3.....5.....4...9..8.3......5..27...4......89.. 10.8/10.8/3.4 Pat

game 285 has one more given
( and reduced symmetry ),
"should" reach higher ratings---

[m_b_metcalf]

::: comment :::

game 41
..12......3...45..4......6.6..1...7.....8.....9...3..8.5......4..27...1......89.. 10.7/10.7/10.4 Mauricio
..72......5...43..1......6.6..1...3.....5.....4...9..8.3......5..27...4......89.. 10.8/10.8/3.4 Pat

As an exercise, I took these three puzzles, 'converted' them to 285 and used the results as seeds in a vicinity search. The best result was

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 . . 1 2 . . . . 3
 . . . . . 4 5 . .
 3 . . . . . . 6 .
 6 . . 1 . . . 2 .
 . . . . 7 . . . .
 . 8 . . . 3 . . 7
 . 5 . . . . . . 4
 . . 9 6 . . . 1 .
 2 . . . . 7 8 . .   ED=9.9/9.9/3.4

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0285 idle 2017-05-08+09:46:04-0000 -- with no further entries the game will close at 2017-05-08+12:00:00-0000 :::

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game 0285 2017-04-28+22:00:00-0000 duration 1w01d dealer Pat pages 2244-2249 (open) 4 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.1/7.1/7.1 m_b_metcalf    8.4/8.4/8.4 m_b_metcalf    9.7/9.7/9.7 champagne
    2.0/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    7.2/7.2/7.2 m_b_metcalf    8.5/8.5/8.5 champagne      9.8/9.8/9.8 champagne
    2.3/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    7.3/7.3/7.3 m_b_metcalf    8.6/8.6/8.5 champagne      9.9/9.9/9.9 m_b_metcalf
    2.5/2.5/2.5 m_b_metcalf    7.4/7.4/7.4 champagne      8.7/8.7/8.7 champagne   10.0/10.0/10.0 champagne
    2.6/2.5/2.5 m_b_metcalf    7.5/7.5/7.5 champagne      8.8/8.8/8.8 m_b_metcalf  10.1/10.1/9.9 champagne
    2.8/2.8/2.8 joel64         7.6/7.6/7.6 champagne      8.9/8.9/8.9 m_b_metcalf  10.2/10.2/3.8 champagne
    3.0/3.0/3.0 m_b_metcalf    7.7/7.7/3.4 m_b_metcalf    9.0/9.0/9.0 m_b_metcalf  10.3/10.3/9.7 champagne
    3.2/3.2/3.2 joel64         7.8/7.8/7.8 m_b_metcalf    9.1/9.1/9.1 champagne   10.4/10.4/10.4 champagne
    3.4/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf    7.9/7.9/7.2 champagne      9.2/9.2/9.2 m_b_metcalf 10.5/10.5/10.4 champagne
    3.6/3.6/3.6 m_b_metcalf    8.0/8.0/3.8 champagne      9.3/9.3/9.3 m_b_metcalf 10.6/10.6/10.5 champagne
    3.8/3.8/3.8 Pat            8.1/7.3/3.8 champagne      9.4/9.4/9.4 m_b_metcalf 10.7/10.7/10.0 champagne
    6.7/6.7/6.7 joel64         8.2/8.2/8.2 champagne      9.5/9.5/9.5 champagne     10.8/1.2/1.2 champagne
    7.0/7.0/7.0 champagne      8.3/8.3/8.3 m_b_metcalf    9.6/9.6/9.5 champagne
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 1.5 1.7 4.0 4.2 4.4-5.2 5.4 5.6-6.2 6.5 6.6 6.8 6.9 10.9-11.4 11.6-11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
             Pat        1     37    19h44m  diamond,dealer
          joel64        3    104    52m59s  diamond*3,dup-rating
     m_b_metcalf       22   1864     2h24m  diamond*17,pearl,resigned-entry
       champagne       25   3685     1h24m  rare-2,diamond*13,pearl*10,highest-rating=305,last-entry=256
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               4       51   5690            rare-2,diamond*34,pearl*11


[Pat]

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 . . 1 2 . . . . 3
 . . . . . 4 5 . .
 4 . . . . . . 6 .
 6 . . 1 . . . 7 .
 . . . . 4 . . . .
 . 9 . . . 3 . . 8
 . 5 . . . . . . 2
 . . 6 4 . . . 1 .
 3 . . . . 8 9 . .

                      ED=4.2/3.2/3.2


just to keep it open

maybe someone can visit a wider vicinity

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0285 resume :::

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game 0285 2017-04-28+22:00:00-0000 duration 1w02d dealer Pat pages 2244-2249 (open) 4 players
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    1.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    7.0/7.0/7.0 champagne      8.3/8.3/8.3 m_b_metcalf    9.6/9.6/9.5 champagne
    2.0/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    7.1/7.1/7.1 m_b_metcalf    8.4/8.4/8.4 m_b_metcalf    9.7/9.7/9.7 champagne
    2.3/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    7.2/7.2/7.2 m_b_metcalf    8.5/8.5/8.5 champagne      9.8/9.8/9.8 champagne
    2.5/2.5/2.5 m_b_metcalf    7.3/7.3/7.3 m_b_metcalf    8.6/8.6/8.5 champagne      9.9/9.9/9.9 m_b_metcalf
    2.6/2.5/2.5 m_b_metcalf    7.4/7.4/7.4 champagne      8.7/8.7/8.7 champagne   10.0/10.0/10.0 champagne
    2.8/2.8/2.8 joel64         7.5/7.5/7.5 champagne      8.8/8.8/8.8 m_b_metcalf  10.1/10.1/9.9 champagne
    3.0/3.0/3.0 m_b_metcalf    7.6/7.6/7.6 champagne      8.9/8.9/8.9 m_b_metcalf  10.2/10.2/3.8 champagne
    3.2/3.2/3.2 joel64         7.7/7.7/3.4 m_b_metcalf    9.0/9.0/9.0 m_b_metcalf  10.3/10.3/9.7 champagne
    3.4/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf    7.8/7.8/7.8 m_b_metcalf    9.1/9.1/9.1 champagne   10.4/10.4/10.4 champagne
    3.6/3.6/3.6 m_b_metcalf    7.9/7.9/7.2 champagne      9.2/9.2/9.2 m_b_metcalf 10.5/10.5/10.4 champagne
    3.8/3.8/3.8 Pat            8.0/8.0/3.8 champagne      9.3/9.3/9.3 m_b_metcalf 10.6/10.6/10.5 champagne
    4.2/3.2/3.2 Pat            8.1/7.3/3.8 champagne      9.4/9.4/9.4 m_b_metcalf 10.7/10.7/10.0 champagne
    6.7/6.7/6.7 joel64         8.2/8.2/8.2 champagne      9.5/9.5/9.5 champagne     10.8/1.2/1.2 champagne
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 1.5 1.7 4.0 4.4-5.2 5.4 5.6-6.2 6.5 6.6 6.8 6.9 10.9-11.4 11.6-11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
          joel64        3    104    52m59s  diamond*3,dup-rating
             Pat        2    420    20h56m  diamond,last-entry=259,dealer
     m_b_metcalf       22   1864     2h24m  diamond*17,pearl,resigned-entry
       champagne       25   3375     1h24m  rare-2,diamond*13,pearl*10,highest-rating=305
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               4       52   5763            rare-2,diamond*34,pearl*11


[m_b_metcalf]

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 . . 1 2 . . . . 3
 . . . . . 4 5 . .
 6 . . . . . . 7 .
 2 . . 5 . . . 8 .
 . . . . 3 . . . .
 . 4 . . . 6 . . 1
 . 5 . . . . . . 2
 . . 8 7 . . . 4 .
 3 . . . . 9 6 . .   ED=4.2/4.2/3.4

[champagne]

::: comment :::

maybe someone can visit a wider vicinity[/list]

Generally speaking, more clues means lower high ratings (lower number of candidates to consider in serate) but with so many exceptions !!!

Here, I made a week ago a deep investigation, and I have doubts that one higher rating can be reached.

[champagne]

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..12....3
.....45..
6......7.
8..4...1.
....7....
.4...9..5
.7......6
..31...8.
9....24.. ED=6.9/6.7/6.7

[m_b_metcalf]

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. . 1 2 . . . . 3
. . . . . 4 5 . .
6 . . . . . . 7 .
7 . . 8 . . . 1 .
. . . . 6 . . . .
. 3 . . . 5 . . 2
. 9 . . . . . . 7
. . 5 1 . . . 6 .
2 . . . . 3 4 . . ED=6.8/6.7/6.7