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by **m_b_metcalf** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:02 pm

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Code: Select all: 012000003403005000657000000000800010000020908060007000000050700000100060300090004 ED=7.8/7.8/2.6 012000003405002000637000000000600040000050108020007000000040700000800050300010006 ED=9.2/9.2/6.7 012000003405002000637000000000600040000080107020009000000040800000700050300010006 ED=9.4/9.4/6.7

I inadvertently deleted a 7.9/7.9/2.6, which prevented me from continuing the game :-(

by **champagne** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:21 pm

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Code: Select all: .12.....34.5..2...673.........7...5.....8.9.6.2...4.......9.4.....5...9.3...1...8 ED=7.3/7.3/6.7 .12.....34.5..1...673.........8...7.....9.8.4.6...3.......1.5.....7...8.3...8...1 ED=7.3/7.3/7.2 .12.....34.3..5...675.........8...1.....5.8.4.5...7.......8.7.....1...8.2...3...6 ED=7.4/7.4/7.1 .12.....34.3..5...675.........4...7.....1.8.6.5...9.......8.9.....7...8.3...2...1 ED=7.5/7.5/3.8 .12.....34.3..1...567.........4...8.....7.9.5.5...6.......9.6.....8...1.3...2...7 ED=7.6/7.6/2.6 .12.....34.3..5...675.........1...8.....8.9.6.2...3.......4.8.....6...4.3...7...5 ED=7.6/7.6/3.4 .12.....33.4..5...675.........4...8.....3.1.6.5...9.......7.9.....8...6.1...2...7 ED=7.6/7.6/3.8 .12.....33.4..5...675.........1...8.....4.7.6.5...3.......7.9.....9...4.1...6...2 ED=7.7/7.6/3.0 .12.....34.3..5...675.........7...8.....1.2.7.5...4.......8.9.....6...7.3...2...4 ED=7.7/7.7/2.6 .12.....34.3..5...675.........4...7.....8.2.1.5...6.......7.6.....2...9.3...1...4 ED=7.7/7.7/3.4 .12.....33.4..5...675.........8...9.....1.3.6.5...4.......2.4.....9...7.1...7...9 ED=7.7/7.7/3.8

by **champagne** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:27 pm

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Code: Select all: .12.....33.4..5...675.........4...1.....3.8.6.5...7.......8.7.....1...9.2...6...4 ED=7.8/7.8/3.4 .12.....33.4..5...675.........4...1.....3.8.6.5...7.......1.7.....8...9.2...6...4 ED=7.8/7.8/3.8 .12.....33.4..5...675.........4...8.....6.2.1.5...7.......3.7.....9...4.1...2...6 ED=7.9/7.9/2.6 .12.....34.5..2...673.........8...6.....1.9.4.5...3.......6.2.....7...1.3...4...6 ED=8.2/8.2/3.4 .12.....34.3..2...567.........8...6.....4.8.5.2...9.......5.4.....6...1.3...7...9 ED=8.3/8.3/4.0 .12.....34.5..1...637.........8...2.....4.8.9.5...3.......8.1.....2...8.7...9...6 ED=8.3/8.3/7.2 .12.....33.4..5...567.........6...1.....8.6.2.4...9.......3.9.....1...8.7...2...5 ED=8.4/8.4/4.0 .12.....34.3..2...567.........3...4.....5.8.6.2...9.......4.9.....7...8.6...8...7 ED=8.4/8.4/6.7 .12.....34.5..2...673.........8...6.....1.5.8.2...3.......5.8.....7...1.3...6...9 ED=8.5/8.5/4.0 .12.....34.5..2...673.........8...6.....7.8.1.2...3.......8.5.....1...7.3...6...4 ED=8.5/8.5/6.7 .12.....34.3..5...675.........4...6.....8.2.7.5...9.......2.4.....8...7.3...1...5 ED=8.8/8.8/7.3 .12.....34.3..5...675.........8...7.....1.8.4.6...9.......8.6.....7...1.2...4...9 ED=9.0/9.0/8.5

by **champagne** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:31 pm

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Code: Select all: .12.....34.3..1...567.........6...8.....9.5.4.7...2.......5.6.....8...9.3...4...7 ED=9.5/9.5/3.4 .12.....34.3..1...567.........5...6.....3.7.8.4...2.......6.5.....7...9.2...8...4 ED=9.3/9.3/7.1 .12.....34.3..5...675.........8...7.....2.8.5.4...3.......8.4.....7...6.3...1...2 ED=9.2/9.2/8.9 .12.....34.3..5...675.........1...8.....6.9.4.5...2.......8.7.....3...6.7...4...5 ED=9.1/9.1/8.4

missing should come from Mladen

by **dobrichev** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:48 pm

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Code: Select all: .12.....33.4..5...675.........3...8.....4.6.7.5...1.......6.1.....9...4.2...7...8 ED=8.0/3.8/3.0 .12.....33.4..5...675.........1...6.....2.7.4.5...8.......6.8.....7...2.1...4...6 ED=8.1/3.8/3.0 .12.....34.3..5...567.........6...8.....9.2.1.7...4.......3.6.....9...1.6...1...8 ED=8.4/8.4/7.2 .12.....34.5..1...673.........8...6.....7.5.8.2...3.......8.9.....5...8.3...6...4 ED=8.5/8.5/7.1 .12.....33.4..2...567.........8...5.....6.8.7.2...3.......1.4.....7...6.4...5...9 ED=8.6/8.6/6.7 .12.....34.3..5...567.........4...6.....8.9.2.5...1.......1.8.....6...7.3...2...9 ED=9.5/9.5/3.4 .12.....34.5..1...673.........8...7.....6.9.4.5...2.......7.8.....9...6.3...4...5 ED=9.7/9.7/3.4

by **champagne** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:21 pm

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Hi Mladen,

2 questions

a) is it the result of a full scan of the pattern
b) How many puzzles did you find at the end of your scan

by **dobrichev** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:26 pm

Not a full scan, it is slow. Regular +/-.
72,228,251 puzzles in total.
all rated by skfr
all */*/3.0+ rated by serate
all 8.0+/*/2.0+ rated by serate
all enclosed to {-1,+1}
all */*/1.5+ enclosed to {-3,+3}
at 8M puzzles all 9.3/*/* enclosed to {-3,+3}
at 65M puzzles all */1.5+/* enclosed to {-3,+3}
at 67M puzzles all 8.8/*/* enclosed to {-2,+2}
at 56M puzzles all */*/7.2+ enclosed to {-4,+4}
at 56M puzzles all 9.4+/*/* enclosed to {-4,+4}

68 runs, about 300 generations, some of them contributing only few puzzles.

I didn't reach 7.9/7.9/2.6 and few of the others.
Below is the puzzles count by serate.

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by **Pat** » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:58 pm

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Code: Select all: .56.....94.7..8...398.........7...2.....1.4.3.8...5.......5.7.....2...1.9...6...8 ED=9.0/9.0/9.0

by **g.r.emlin** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 7:00 am

::: game 0263 start at 2015-11-21+00:00:00-0000 :::

Code: Select all: dealer status candidate patterns (via private message to g.r.emlin) 1 Pat 4 m_b_metcalf 16 champagne 87 g.r.emlin past patterns 1 claudiarabia 1 pseudocoup 6 ronk 27 champagne 48 Pat 1 dobrichev 1 ravel 9 gsf 30 Mauricio 58 tarek 1 draco 1 wintder 19 TTHsieh 32 m_b_metcalf 1 Eioru 3 g.r.emlin 21 coloin 33 JPF

by **g.r.emlin** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:00 am

::: game 0263 open 2015-11-21+00:00:08-0000 dealer m_b_metcalf 25 clues diagonal and antidiagonal symmetry :::

Code: Select all: . . . . . 1 . . 2 . . 3 4 . . 1 . . . 5 . . 6 . . 3 . . 4 . 7 . . . . 8 . . 7 . 2 . 5 . . 1 . . . . 5 . 2 . . 3 . . 5 . . 6 . . . 5 . . 7 2 . . 6 . . 2 . . . . . ED=1.5/1.2/1.2

by **champagne** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:15 am

Code: Select all: .....1..2 ..34..5.. .6..7..4. .8.5....9 ..5.1.8.. 2....8.5. .7..4..3. ..8..76.. 9..1..... ED=10.5/10.5/10.5

symmetry of given
seems very rich in high ratings

by **dobrichev** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:43 am

my estimation for the number of puzzles is 5x10^11

by **champagne** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:07 am

dobrichev wrote:my estimation for the number of puzzles is 5x10^11

some order of magnitude fitting with previous data from coloin
extracting the interesting puzzles is a nice strategic challenge.

In that game, my usual start, the symmetry of given, was very efficient.
I'll post later (in one or two days) the corresponding puzzles in a separate thread

by **dobrichev** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:20 am

Code: Select all: .....1..2 ..13..4.. .2..5..6. .6.5....4 ..7.3.8.. 4....7.9. .9..8..4. ..8..53.. 7..2..... ED=9.4/9.4/9.4

by **champagne** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:35 am

Code: Select all: .....1..2 ..23..4.. .5..6..3. .4.6....1 ..5.4.7.. 8....3.4. .6..3..7. ..4..69.. 9..8..... ED=10.6/10.6/10.6

another example of symmetry of given

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