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[champagne]

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5..7.4.6.
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.3.1.5..7
..8....9.
7...1...4
.2...91..  ED=10.0/10.0/10.0

[m_b_metcalf]

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 . 3 . 5 . 4 . . 7
 . . 3 . . . . 8 .
 4 . . . 5 . . . 9
 . 2 . . . 9 6 . .   ED=9.3/9.3/9.3

[g.r.emlin]

::: adjustment 2015-02-20+15:33:00-0000 m_b_metcalf dup-puzzle -50 :::

[champagne]

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..12...3.
4...1...5
.5....2..
6..4.7.8.
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.7.8.1..6
..9....5.
8...4...7
.3...98..  ED=9.9/9.9/9.9

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0247 idle 2015-02-24+16:06:26-0000 -- with no further entries the game will close at 2015-02-24+19:00:00-0000 :::

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game 0247 2015-02-17+04:00:00-0000 duration 3d12h dealer champagne pages 1965-1967 (open) 2 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    9.5/9.5/9.5 m_b_metcalf 10.1/10.1/10.1 champagne   10.6/10.6/10.6 champagne
    1.5/1.2/1.2 champagne      9.6/9.6/9.6 m_b_metcalf 10.2/10.2/10.2 champagne   10.7/10.7/10.7 champagne
    7.9/7.1/4.0 m_b_metcalf    9.8/9.8/9.8 m_b_metcalf 10.3/10.3/10.3 champagne   10.8/10.8/10.8 champagne
    9.3/9.3/9.3 m_b_metcalf    9.9/9.9/9.9 champagne   10.4/10.4/10.4 champagne
    9.4/9.4/9.4 m_b_metcalf 10.0/10.0/10.0 champagne   10.5/10.5/10.5 m_b_metcalf
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    open ratings : 1.7 2.0 2.3 2.5 2.6 2.8 3.0 3.2 3.4 3.6 3.8 4.0 4.2 4.4-5.2 5.4 5.6-6.2 6.5-7.8 8.0-9.2 9.7 10.9-11.4 11.6-11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
     m_b_metcalf        8    803     1h04m  rare-0,diamond*6,dup-puzzle
       champagne       10   1383     4h06m  rare-2,diamond*9,highest-rating=19,last-entry=103,dealer
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               2       18   2186            rare-0,rare-2,diamond*15


[coloin]

:::comment:::
This game was an example where many [high rating] non-minimal puzzles could be generated.
Potentially minimization of these could produce new puzzles with even higher ratings.
Just a thought.

:::comment:::
perhaps we could produce a guide for non-computor literate people to play.

Dobrichevs program gridchecker can make the puzzles
Champagnes program skfr can rate them quickly, as can gsfs
gsf s software can also canonicalize and then identify published puzzle morphs....
Boxertext editor can manage large text files ....
Spreadsheet gear can manage spreadsheet functions
I found it impossible to get SErate to print the rating then the puzzle on the same line - i am sure there is a way

C

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0247 closed (idle for 4d02h) -- preliminary results :::

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game 0247 2015-02-17+04:00:00-0000 duration 3d12h dealer champagne pages 1965-1967 (final) 2 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    9.5/9.5/9.5 m_b_metcalf 10.1/10.1/10.1 champagne   10.6/10.6/10.6 champagne
    1.5/1.2/1.2 champagne      9.6/9.6/9.6 m_b_metcalf 10.2/10.2/10.2 champagne   10.7/10.7/10.7 champagne
    7.9/7.1/4.0 m_b_metcalf    9.8/9.8/9.8 m_b_metcalf 10.3/10.3/10.3 champagne   10.8/10.8/10.8 champagne
    9.3/9.3/9.3 m_b_metcalf    9.9/9.9/9.9 champagne   10.4/10.4/10.4 champagne
    9.4/9.4/9.4 m_b_metcalf 10.0/10.0/10.0 champagne   10.5/10.5/10.5 m_b_metcalf
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 1.7 2.0 2.3 2.5 2.6 2.8 3.0 3.2 3.4 3.6 3.8 4.0 4.2 4.4-5.2 5.4 5.6-6.2 6.5-7.8 8.0-9.2 9.7 10.9-11.4 11.6-11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
     m_b_metcalf        8    803     1h04m  rare-0,diamond*6,dup-puzzle
       champagne       10   1383     4h06m  rare-2,diamond*9,highest-rating=19,last-entry=103,dealer
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               2       18   2186            rare-0,rare-2,diamond*15


[m_b_metcalf]

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001200030400050006070000800300702050000080000060901002008000090500060003040009500   ED=1.5/1.5/1.5   
001200030400050006070000800300504060000020000020601007009000080700080004050009100   ED=1.7/1.7/1.7   
001200030400030001050000600100403020000070000070601004005000070800040003090008500   ED=2.0/2.0/2.0   
001200030400050002050000600600708050000090000080501006003000020100080009090004100   ED=2.5/2.5/2.5   
001200030200040005060000200700408020000010000030602004005000080900080001040003600   ED=2.8/2.8/2.8   
001200030400050006070000800500309070000060000090504002003000080700090001010008400   ED=3.0/3.0/3.0   
001200030400050001060000700500307080000040000030805006009000050200030009070009800   ED=3.4/3.4/3.4 
001200030400050002050000600700805010000040000020703009003000090800070004070001800   ED=3.6/3.6/3.6   
001200030400050006070000500200406080000010000080509003008000070700040001020003900   ED=3.8/3.8/3.8 
001200030400050002060000700800705090000020000040809005007000040500090008080001900   ED=4.0/4.0/4.0   
001200030400050006030000700100502080000080000080609003004000010200090007010006300   ED=6.6/6.6/6.6   
001200030200040005060000200700401020000070000080609007008000010300090008070008600   ED=6.7/6.7/6.7   
001200030400050006070000100600305080000070000050406009008000070300040002010002800   ED=7.0/7.0/7.0   
001200030400050006070000200600305040000070000080406005009000070300040002050002900   ED=7.1/7.1/7.1   
001200030400050006060000100700603010000040000030508009002000080800030004050009600   ED=7.2/7.2/7.2   
001200030400050006060000700700603080000040000030507009008000010200030004050009600   ED=7.3/7.3/7.3   
001200030400050006050000200700608010000070000090503007004000080300080002060004900   ED=7.8/7.8/7.8 
001200030400050001050000600600708050000090000080501006003000080100080009090004700   ED=8.3/8.3/8.3   
001200030400050001060000700800905060000040000050608009003000080900060004070001200   ED=8.4/8.4/8.4   
001200030400030005030000600300708010000040000080503007009000050800070002060002900   ED=8.8/8.8/8.8   
001200030400050001060000700800905060000040000050608009007000080900060004020001300   ED=8.9/8.9/8.9   
001200030400050006070000800200603050000040000030508009006000010800030004050009700   ED=9.0/9.0/9.0   
001200030400050001030000600700501040000030000020807005006000090800070002090004800   ED=9.1/9.1/9.1   
001200030400050006070000800100905070000040000050706002003000050900070004080001200   ED=9.2/9.2/9.2   
001200030200040005060000200700503080000070000030804007009000010800050004020009600   ED=9.7/9.7/9.7   

Just my diamonds. I stopped playing after making a slip, not wanting a boring descent down to 1.5/1.5/1.5. Pity champagne didn't play his 11 earlier.

Mike

[m_b_metcalf]

::: comment :::

This game was an example where many [high rating] non-minimal puzzles could be generated.
Potentially minimization of these could produce new puzzles with even higher ratings.
Just a thought.

I've tried that approach occasionally, but it's no more productive than standard vicinity searches.

I found it impossible to get SErate to print the rating then the puzzle on the same line - i am sure there is a way

I wrote my own utility that reads both files, merging and sorting on the fly, then making a summary.

Regards,

Mike

[champagne]

I found it impossible to get SErate to print the rating then the puzzle on the same line - i am sure there is a way
C

I use that command in a .bat file giving

puzzle;er;ep;ed

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java.exe -Xrs -Xmx500m -cp SudokuExplainer.jar diuf.sudoku.test.serate -f"%%g;%%r;%%p;%%d" -i"%1.txt" -o"%1_serat.txt"


I assume that the command

-f"ER=%r/%p/%d %g" (not in a .bat file)

would do what you want

[champagne]

Pity champagne didn't play his 11 earlier.

Mike

I got it to early. I hoped to find others, but it did not happen. It will come in the :: more ::

[champagne]

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..12...3.4...3...5.6....7..8..9.3.4.....8.....3.4.5..8..7....6.3...4...9.4...12..  ED=11.0/1.2/1.2
..12...3.4...5...6.5....1..2..7.8.4.....6.....1.5.4..9..9....8.6...8...7.2...34..  ED=8.7/8.7/8.7
..12...3.4...5...6.7....8..3..5.9.1.....6.....2.7.8..5..4....9.6...7...3.5...12..  ED=8.6/8.6/8.6
..12...3.4...5...6.7....2..3..5.2.8.....1.....9.6.3..5..6....7.2...3...9.5...81..  ED=8.5/8.5/8.5
..12...3.4...5...6.7....8..5..3.9.6.....8.....2.5.7..9..8....4.3...9...7.1...62..  ED=8.2/8.2/8.2
..12...3.4...5...6.7....1..8..3.5.2.....7.....5.8.6..1..8....4.3...8...5.6...97..  ED=8.1/8.1/6.7
..12...3.4...5...1.5....2..6..1.7.4.....4.....4.5.3..6..8....7.3...7...2.1...89..  ED=8.0/8.0/7.8
..12...3.4...5...1.6....2..5..1.7.2.....3.....8.5.6..7..9....1.6...7...8.4...96..  ED=7.9/7.9/7.8
..12...3.4...5...6.7....4..5..7.8.9.....1.....4.3.5..7..6....5.3...7...1.8...29..  ED=7.7/7.7/7.7
..12...3.4...1...5.2....1..2..1.6.4.....5.....6.4.7..8..3....8.5...7...6.7...84..  ED=7.6/7.6/7.6
..12...3.4...5...6.7....1..8..9.5.7.....6.....9.3.7..1..4....9.6...3...2.5...48..  ED=7.5/7.5/7.5
..12...3.4...5...6.6....5..1..3.7.5.....8.....7.5.9..1..7....2.6...7...8.9...41..  ED=7.4/7.4/7.4
..12...3.4...5...6.5....7..7..3.4.8.....8.....1.6.5..4..3....5.9...6...1.8...72..  ED=6.9/6.7/6.7
..12...3.4...5...1.6....4..2..7.8.1.....3.....7.9.5..8..6....4.3...9...6.5...78..  ED=6.8/6.8/6.6
..12...3.3...4...1.5....6..1..3.7.2.....8.....3.1.4..7..2....7.7...9...4.1...65..  ED=6.5/4.6/2.6
..12...3.4...5...1.5....6..7..8.4.9.....2.....6.7.5..4..3....8.9...8...3.1...92..  ED=6.2/6.2/6.2
..12...3.4...5...6.7....4..8..3.5.1.....8.....6.4.9..8..7....8.6...4...9.5...12..  ED=6.0/1.2/1.2
..12...3.4...5...6.2....7..1..6.4.5.....8.....7.3.9..4..2....1.3...6...8.1...29..  ED=5.9/4.0/2.6
..12...3.3...4...5.2....6..7..3.8.1.....7.....1.5.4..7..2....8.8...6...4.3...59..  ED=5.8/3.0/2.6
..12...3.4...5...6.2....1..7..4.6.5.....3.....6.8.5..7..2....1.5...9...4.8...27..  ED=5.7/4.6/2.6
..12...3.3...4...5.2....1..6..4.3.7.....6.....8.7.5..4..9....5.8...7...3.1...27..  ED=5.6/5.0/5.0
..12...3.3...4...5.6....1..7..5.8.4.....7.....9.4.3..7..2....6.9...5...3.1...29..  ED=5.2/3.4/3.4
..12...3.4...5...6.5....2..6..4.7.2.....8.....7.6.5..8..9....1.5...7...2.4...93..  ED=5.0/5.0/5.0
..12...3.2...3...4.5....1..6..7.2.8.....9.....7.6.4..3..9....7.3...6...9.4...92..  ED=4.9/1.2/1.2
..12...3.4...3...2.5....6..6..4.3.2.....7.....8.6.2..3..9....7.5...6...8.4...15..  ED=4.8/3.0/3.0
..12...3.3...4...5.2....6..7..3.8.5.....5.....9.4.2..8..9....1.4...8...7.1...49..  ED=4.7/4.7/3.4
..12...3.4...5...6.3....1..7..8.2.5.....7.....2.4.5..7..9....8.6...8...4.1...93..  ED=4.6/4.6/3.4
..12...3.4...5...6.2....1..7..3.8.6.....6.....6.7.5..8..4....9.5...7...1.9...24..  ED=4.5/4.5/3.4
..12...3.2...4...5.4....2..5..3.6.1.....7.....8.4.9..6..8....6.3...9...8.9...15..  ED=4.4/4.4/4.4
..12...3.4...5...6.7....8..3..9.5.1.....8.....2.7.6..5..8....4.9...7...3.6...12..  ED=4.2/4.2/4.2
..12...3.4...3...5.6....7..2..4.8.5.....2.....9.5.3..2..9....7.8...4...3.5...96..  ED=3.2/3.2/3.2
..12...3.2...4...1.5....6..7..1.4.8.....2.....2.5.9..4..3....9.5...7...6.7...81..  ED=2.6/2.6/2.6
..12...3.4...3...5.5....6..5..4.7.2.....6.....3.1.8..9..8....9.7...4...8.2...97..  ED=2.3/2.3/2.3


my best rating in other entries

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0248 start LIGHTNING at 2015-02-28+04:00:00-0000 :::

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dealer status

candidate patterns (via private message to g.r.emlin)

   2 tarek             4 Pat              20 champagne        87 g.r.emlin

past patterns

   1 claudiarabia      1 ravel             9 gsf              29 m_b_metcalf      56 tarek
   1 draco             1 wintder          19 TTHsieh          30 Mauricio
   1 Eioru             3 g.r.emlin        21 coloin           33 JPF
   1 pseudocoup        6 ronk             23 champagne        43 Pat


[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0248 open LIGHTNING 2015-02-28+04:00:10-0000 dealer Pat 24 clues pi rotational (180 degrees) symmetry :::

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. . 4 7 . . . . 2
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. 7 . . . . . 5 .  ED=2.0/1.2/1.2

[m_b_metcalf]

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 1 . . . . 3 . . 9
 . 2 . . . . . 1 .   ED=2.0/2.0/2.0