The New Sudoku Players' Forum

by **Patrice** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:07 pm

::: comment :::
There is also a 8.7/8.7/8.5

by **champagne** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:20 am

Code: Select all: 12.3..... 3...2.4.. ..5..6... 2..4..7.. .8..3..1. ..9.....5 .7.8..9.. ....5..2. .....1..6 ED=8.7/8.7/8.7

by **g.r.emlin** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:24 am

::: game 0239 idle 2014-09-17+05:24:27-0000 -- with no further entries the game will close at 2014-09-17+08:00:00-0000 :::

Code: Select all: game 0239 2014-09-10+03:00:00-0000 duration 6d04h dealer champagne pages 1913-1923 (open) 5 players _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 1.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf 4.9/1.2/1.2 Pat 7.5/7.5/7.1 Patrice 9.5/9.5/9.5 Patrice 1.5/1.5/1.5 champagne 5.0/5.0/2.6 champagne 7.6/7.6/7.6 Patrice 9.6/9.6/9.6 Patrice 1.7/1.5/1.5 m_b_metcalf 5.2/3.8/3.4 champagne 7.7/7.7/7.2 Patrice 9.7/9.7/9.7 m_b_metcalf 2.0/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf 5.6/4.5/3.4 Pat 7.8/7.8/7.8 Patrice 9.8/9.8/9.8 m_b_metcalf 2.3/2.3/2.3 m_b_metcalf 5.7/3.8/3.8 Patrice 7.9/7.9/7.2 Patrice 9.9/9.9/9.9 m_b_metcalf 2.5/2.5/2.5 Patrice 5.8/2.0/2.0 Pat 8.0/8.0/7.1 Patrice 10.0/10.0/10.0 m_b_metcalf 2.6/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf 5.9/2.3/2.3 Patrice 8.1/8.1/3.4 Patrice 10.1/10.1/10.1 Patrice 2.8/2.8/2.8 Pat 6.0/1.2/1.2 champagne 8.2/8.2/8.2 Patrice 10.2/10.2/10.0 Patrice 3.0/3.0/3.0 Pat 6.1/1.2/1.2 champagne 8.3/8.3/8.3 m_b_metcalf 10.3/10.3/10.3 Patrice 3.2/3.0/3.0 champagne 6.2/3.8/3.8 Patrice 8.4/8.4/8.4 Pat 10.4/10.4/10.4 Patrice 3.4/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf 6.5/3.8/3.8 Patrice 8.5/8.5/8.5 Patrice 10.5/10.5/10.5 Patrice 3.6/3.6/3.6 Pat 6.6/6.6/6.6 Pat 8.6/8.6/8.5 Patrice 10.6/10.6/10.6 blue 3.8/3.8/3.8 Pat 6.7/6.7/6.7 champagne 8.7/8.7/8.7 champagne 10.7/10.7/10.7 Patrice 4.0/4.0/3.8 Pat 6.8/6.8/3.6 Pat 8.8/8.8/8.8 Patrice 10.8/10.8/10.6 champagne 4.2/4.2/3.8 champagne 6.9/6.7/3.4 Pat 8.9/8.9/8.9 Patrice 10.9/1.2/1.2 champagne 4.4/4.4/4.4 Pat 7.0/7.0/7.0 Patrice 9.0/9.0/9.0 m_b_metcalf 11.1/11.1/9.9 Patrice 4.5/4.5/3.4 Patrice 7.1/7.1/7.1 m_b_metcalf 9.1/9.1/9.1 Patrice 11.2/11.2/10.8 m_b_metcalf 4.6/4.5/3.4 Pat 7.2/7.2/7.2 Pat 9.2/9.2/9.2 Patrice 11.3/11.3/9.4 champagne 4.7/3.8/3.4 champagne 7.3/7.3/7.3 Pat 9.3/9.3/9.3 m_b_metcalf 11.4/11.4/10.7 blue 4.8/3.8/3.8 Patrice 7.4/7.4/7.4 Patrice 9.4/9.4/9.4 Patrice _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ rare ratings : 11.4 open ratings : 5.1 5.4 11.0 11.6-11.8 submitter entries score response notes ----------- ------- ----- -------- ----- blue 2 879 2h53m rare-0,diamond,pearl,highest-rating=458 m_b_metcalf 15 1413 37m29s rare-0*2,diamond*10,pearl Pat 16 1554 1h22m rare-0,rare-2,diamond*9,pearl*2 champagne 13 2240 3h42m rare-0,diamond*2,pearl*4,last-entry=474,dealer Patrice 33 4344 57m20s rare-1,rare-2*2,diamond*19,pearl*9 ----------- ------- ----- ----- 5 79 10430 rare-0*5,rare-1,rare-2*3,diamond*41,pearl*17

by **Patrice** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:29 am

Code: Select all: 1 2 . 3 . . . . . 3 . . . 4 . 5 . . . . 6 . . 7 . . . 4 . . 5 . . 3 . . . 6 . . 2 . . 8 . . . 9 . . . . . 1 . 5 . 4 . . 6 . . . . . . 7 . . 2 . . . . . . 8 . . 7 ED=5.2/3.8/3.8

by **g.r.emlin** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:29 am

::: game 0239 resume :::

Code: Select all: game 0239 2014-09-10+03:00:00-0000 duration 1w00d dealer champagne pages 1913-1923 (open) 5 players _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 1.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf 4.9/1.2/1.2 Pat 7.5/7.5/7.1 Patrice 9.5/9.5/9.5 Patrice 1.5/1.5/1.5 champagne 5.0/5.0/2.6 champagne 7.6/7.6/7.6 Patrice 9.6/9.6/9.6 Patrice 1.7/1.5/1.5 m_b_metcalf 5.2/3.8/3.8 Patrice 7.7/7.7/7.2 Patrice 9.7/9.7/9.7 m_b_metcalf 2.0/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf 5.6/4.5/3.4 Pat 7.8/7.8/7.8 Patrice 9.8/9.8/9.8 m_b_metcalf 2.3/2.3/2.3 m_b_metcalf 5.7/3.8/3.8 Patrice 7.9/7.9/7.2 Patrice 9.9/9.9/9.9 m_b_metcalf 2.5/2.5/2.5 Patrice 5.8/2.0/2.0 Pat 8.0/8.0/7.1 Patrice 10.0/10.0/10.0 m_b_metcalf 2.6/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf 5.9/2.3/2.3 Patrice 8.1/8.1/3.4 Patrice 10.1/10.1/10.1 Patrice 2.8/2.8/2.8 Pat 6.0/1.2/1.2 champagne 8.2/8.2/8.2 Patrice 10.2/10.2/10.0 Patrice 3.0/3.0/3.0 Pat 6.1/1.2/1.2 champagne 8.3/8.3/8.3 m_b_metcalf 10.3/10.3/10.3 Patrice 3.2/3.0/3.0 champagne 6.2/3.8/3.8 Patrice 8.4/8.4/8.4 Pat 10.4/10.4/10.4 Patrice 3.4/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf 6.5/3.8/3.8 Patrice 8.5/8.5/8.5 Patrice 10.5/10.5/10.5 Patrice 3.6/3.6/3.6 Pat 6.6/6.6/6.6 Pat 8.6/8.6/8.5 Patrice 10.6/10.6/10.6 blue 3.8/3.8/3.8 Pat 6.7/6.7/6.7 champagne 8.7/8.7/8.7 champagne 10.7/10.7/10.7 Patrice 4.0/4.0/3.8 Pat 6.8/6.8/3.6 Pat 8.8/8.8/8.8 Patrice 10.8/10.8/10.6 champagne 4.2/4.2/3.8 champagne 6.9/6.7/3.4 Pat 8.9/8.9/8.9 Patrice 10.9/1.2/1.2 champagne 4.4/4.4/4.4 Pat 7.0/7.0/7.0 Patrice 9.0/9.0/9.0 m_b_metcalf 11.1/11.1/9.9 Patrice 4.5/4.5/3.4 Patrice 7.1/7.1/7.1 m_b_metcalf 9.1/9.1/9.1 Patrice 11.2/11.2/10.8 m_b_metcalf 4.6/4.5/3.4 Pat 7.2/7.2/7.2 Pat 9.2/9.2/9.2 Patrice 11.3/11.3/9.4 champagne 4.7/3.8/3.4 champagne 7.3/7.3/7.3 Pat 9.3/9.3/9.3 m_b_metcalf 11.4/11.4/10.7 blue 4.8/3.8/3.8 Patrice 7.4/7.4/7.4 Patrice 9.4/9.4/9.4 Patrice _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ rare ratings : 11.4 open ratings : 5.1 5.4 11.0 11.6-11.8 submitter entries score response notes ----------- ------- ----- -------- ----- blue 2 879 2h53m rare-0,diamond,pearl,highest-rating=458 m_b_metcalf 15 1413 37m29s rare-0*2,diamond*10,pearl champagne 12 1539 3h42m rare-0,diamond*2,pearl*4,dealer Pat 16 1554 1h22m rare-0,rare-2,diamond*9,pearl*2 Patrice 34 5062 57m20s rare-1,rare-2*2,diamond*19,pearl*9,last-entry=475 ----------- ------- ----- ----- 5 79 10447 rare-0*5,rare-1,rare-2*3,diamond*41,pearl*17

by **champagne** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:23 pm

Code: Select all: 12.3..... 4...5.6.. ..7..4... 6..5..3.. .5..7..2. ..8.....9 .3.1..4.. ....9..7. .....6..1 ED=8.6/8.6/8.6

by **g.r.emlin** » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:25 pm

::: game 0239 idle 2014-09-18+15:25:55-0000 -- with no further entries the game will close at 2014-09-18+18:00:00-0000 :::

Code: Select all: game 0239 2014-09-10+03:00:00-0000 duration 1w00d dealer champagne pages 1913-1923 (open) 5 players _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 1.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf 4.9/1.2/1.2 Pat 7.5/7.5/7.1 Patrice 9.5/9.5/9.5 Patrice 1.5/1.5/1.5 champagne 5.0/5.0/2.6 champagne 7.6/7.6/7.6 Patrice 9.6/9.6/9.6 Patrice 1.7/1.5/1.5 m_b_metcalf 5.2/3.8/3.8 Patrice 7.7/7.7/7.2 Patrice 9.7/9.7/9.7 m_b_metcalf 2.0/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf 5.6/4.5/3.4 Pat 7.8/7.8/7.8 Patrice 9.8/9.8/9.8 m_b_metcalf 2.3/2.3/2.3 m_b_metcalf 5.7/3.8/3.8 Patrice 7.9/7.9/7.2 Patrice 9.9/9.9/9.9 m_b_metcalf 2.5/2.5/2.5 Patrice 5.8/2.0/2.0 Pat 8.0/8.0/7.1 Patrice 10.0/10.0/10.0 m_b_metcalf 2.6/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf 5.9/2.3/2.3 Patrice 8.1/8.1/3.4 Patrice 10.1/10.1/10.1 Patrice 2.8/2.8/2.8 Pat 6.0/1.2/1.2 champagne 8.2/8.2/8.2 Patrice 10.2/10.2/10.0 Patrice 3.0/3.0/3.0 Pat 6.1/1.2/1.2 champagne 8.3/8.3/8.3 m_b_metcalf 10.3/10.3/10.3 Patrice 3.2/3.0/3.0 champagne 6.2/3.8/3.8 Patrice 8.4/8.4/8.4 Pat 10.4/10.4/10.4 Patrice 3.4/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf 6.5/3.8/3.8 Patrice 8.5/8.5/8.5 Patrice 10.5/10.5/10.5 Patrice 3.6/3.6/3.6 Pat 6.6/6.6/6.6 Pat 8.6/8.6/8.6 champagne 10.6/10.6/10.6 blue 3.8/3.8/3.8 Pat 6.7/6.7/6.7 champagne 8.7/8.7/8.7 champagne 10.7/10.7/10.7 Patrice 4.0/4.0/3.8 Pat 6.8/6.8/3.6 Pat 8.8/8.8/8.8 Patrice 10.8/10.8/10.6 champagne 4.2/4.2/3.8 champagne 6.9/6.7/3.4 Pat 8.9/8.9/8.9 Patrice 10.9/1.2/1.2 champagne 4.4/4.4/4.4 Pat 7.0/7.0/7.0 Patrice 9.0/9.0/9.0 m_b_metcalf 11.1/11.1/9.9 Patrice 4.5/4.5/3.4 Patrice 7.1/7.1/7.1 m_b_metcalf 9.1/9.1/9.1 Patrice 11.2/11.2/10.8 m_b_metcalf 4.6/4.5/3.4 Pat 7.2/7.2/7.2 Pat 9.2/9.2/9.2 Patrice 11.3/11.3/9.4 champagne 4.7/3.8/3.4 champagne 7.3/7.3/7.3 Pat 9.3/9.3/9.3 m_b_metcalf 11.4/11.4/10.7 blue 4.8/3.8/3.8 Patrice 7.4/7.4/7.4 Patrice 9.4/9.4/9.4 Patrice _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ rare ratings : 11.4 open ratings : 5.1 5.4 11.0 11.6-11.8 submitter entries score response notes ----------- ------- ----- -------- ----- blue 2 879 2h53m rare-0,diamond,pearl,highest-rating=458 m_b_metcalf 15 1413 37m29s rare-0*2,diamond*10,pearl Pat 16 1554 1h22m rare-0,rare-2,diamond*9,pearl*2 champagne 13 2334 4h05m rare-0,diamond*3,pearl*4,last-entry=478,dealer Patrice 33 4321 57m20s rare-1,rare-2*2,diamond*19,pearl*8 ----------- ------- ----- ----- 5 79 10501 rare-0*5,rare-1,rare-2*3,diamond*42,pearl*16

by **g.r.emlin** » Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:01 pm

::: game 0239 closed (idle for 1d00h) -- preliminary results :::

Code: Select all: game 0239 2014-09-10+03:00:00-0000 duration 1w00d dealer champagne pages 1913-1923 (final) 5 players _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 1.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf 4.9/1.2/1.2 Pat 7.5/7.5/7.1 Patrice 9.5/9.5/9.5 Patrice 1.5/1.5/1.5 champagne 5.0/5.0/2.6 champagne 7.6/7.6/7.6 Patrice 9.6/9.6/9.6 Patrice 1.7/1.5/1.5 m_b_metcalf 5.2/3.8/3.8 Patrice 7.7/7.7/7.2 Patrice 9.7/9.7/9.7 m_b_metcalf 2.0/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf 5.6/4.5/3.4 Pat 7.8/7.8/7.8 Patrice 9.8/9.8/9.8 m_b_metcalf 2.3/2.3/2.3 m_b_metcalf 5.7/3.8/3.8 Patrice 7.9/7.9/7.2 Patrice 9.9/9.9/9.9 m_b_metcalf 2.5/2.5/2.5 Patrice 5.8/2.0/2.0 Pat 8.0/8.0/7.1 Patrice 10.0/10.0/10.0 m_b_metcalf 2.6/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf 5.9/2.3/2.3 Patrice 8.1/8.1/3.4 Patrice 10.1/10.1/10.1 Patrice 2.8/2.8/2.8 Pat 6.0/1.2/1.2 champagne 8.2/8.2/8.2 Patrice 10.2/10.2/10.0 Patrice 3.0/3.0/3.0 Pat 6.1/1.2/1.2 champagne 8.3/8.3/8.3 m_b_metcalf 10.3/10.3/10.3 Patrice 3.2/3.0/3.0 champagne 6.2/3.8/3.8 Patrice 8.4/8.4/8.4 Pat 10.4/10.4/10.4 Patrice 3.4/3.4/3.4 m_b_metcalf 6.5/3.8/3.8 Patrice 8.5/8.5/8.5 Patrice 10.5/10.5/10.5 Patrice 3.6/3.6/3.6 Pat 6.6/6.6/6.6 Pat 8.6/8.6/8.6 champagne 10.6/10.6/10.6 blue 3.8/3.8/3.8 Pat 6.7/6.7/6.7 champagne 8.7/8.7/8.7 champagne 10.7/10.7/10.7 Patrice 4.0/4.0/3.8 Pat 6.8/6.8/3.6 Pat 8.8/8.8/8.8 Patrice 10.8/10.8/10.6 champagne 4.2/4.2/3.8 champagne 6.9/6.7/3.4 Pat 8.9/8.9/8.9 Patrice 10.9/1.2/1.2 champagne 4.4/4.4/4.4 Pat 7.0/7.0/7.0 Patrice 9.0/9.0/9.0 m_b_metcalf 11.1/11.1/9.9 Patrice 4.5/4.5/3.4 Patrice 7.1/7.1/7.1 m_b_metcalf 9.1/9.1/9.1 Patrice 11.2/11.2/10.8 m_b_metcalf 4.6/4.5/3.4 Pat 7.2/7.2/7.2 Pat 9.2/9.2/9.2 Patrice 11.3/11.3/9.4 champagne 4.7/3.8/3.4 champagne 7.3/7.3/7.3 Pat 9.3/9.3/9.3 m_b_metcalf 11.4/11.4/10.7 blue 4.8/3.8/3.8 Patrice 7.4/7.4/7.4 Patrice 9.4/9.4/9.4 Patrice _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ rare ratings : 11.4 open ratings : 5.1 5.4 11.0 11.6-11.8 submitter entries score response notes ----------- ------- ----- -------- ----- blue 2 879 2h53m rare-0,diamond,pearl,highest-rating=458 m_b_metcalf 15 1413 37m29s rare-0*2,diamond*10,pearl Pat 16 1554 1h22m rare-0,rare-2,diamond*9,pearl*2 champagne 13 2334 4h05m rare-0,diamond*3,pearl*4,last-entry=478,dealer Patrice 33 4321 57m20s rare-1,rare-2*2,diamond*19,pearl*8 ----------- ------- ----- ----- 5 79 10501 rare-0*5,rare-1,rare-2*3,diamond*42,pearl*16

by **Patrice** » Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:51 pm

::: comment :::
Champagne
I've found 9 11.x

Code: Select all: 12.3.....4...2.5....6..7...3..1..2...5..8..3...4.....9.4.5..3......9..8......6..7 ED=11.2/11.2/10.8 OR=9042 12.3.....3...1.4....5..6...7..2..3...3..8..7...9.....8.1.4..7......6..9......8..5 ED=11.1/11.1/9.9 OR=166149 12.3.....4...1.2....5..2...3..6..4...4..5..7...8.....9.6.4..1......9..5......7..8 ED=11.2/11.2/10.0 OR=349300 12.3.....4...2.5....6..7...5..4..2...3..8..5...1.....9.1.2..3......9..8......6..7 ED=11.4/11.4/10.7 OR=357441 12.3.....4...2.1....5..6...3..7..4...4..8..5...9.....8.7.4..2......6..9......8..3 ED=11.1/11.1/9.9 OR=523493 12.3.....4...1.2....5..6...3..7..4...4..8..9...9.....8.7.4..1......6..5......8..3 ED=11.1/11.1/9.4 OR=624539 12.3.....4...1.2....5..2...3..6..4...1..7..3...8.....9.6.4..1......8..5......9..7 ED=11.3/11.3/9.4 OR=643121 12.3.....3...2.4....5..6...7..4..2...3..8..7...9.....8.1.7..3......5..9......8..6 ED=11.1/11.1/3.4 OR=2373066 12.3.....3...4.5....6..7...4..5..2...8..3..9...1.....6.1.2..4......9..8......3..7 ED=11.2/11.2/3.4 OR=2845380

As you can see I've a big hole in the sudoku generation the first 7 are in the 550 000 first generated sudoku
and I found 2 other after 2.3 millions
I hope some are new for your DB

Best regards

by **Patrice** » Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:55 pm

::: more :::

Code: Select all: 12.3.....4...5.1....5..6...7..8..3...5..7..4...2.....9.8.7..2......4..9......9..5 ED=8.0/8.0/7.3

That's all !!! only one self trump
On 4.4 millions generated sudokus, 81300 are nested level 1 or more (9.6+) and among them I rated only 4500 with serate .... too slow

by **champagne** » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:16 am

::: more :::

Code: Select all: 12.3.....4...5.3....5..4...6..2..1...5..3..7...8.....9.7.4..6......8..5......9..7 ED=8.0/8.0/7.8 12.3.....4...5.6....7..4...6..2..8...9..8..3...5.....7.3.4..1......9..5......1..4 ED=5.8/2.3/2.3

by **champagne** » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:18 am

Patrice wrote:I hope some are new for your DB

Best regards

I'll update the DB with the usual rule, priority to the first public morph of a puzzle.

by **g.r.emlin** » Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:01 am

::: game 0240 start LIGHTNING at 2014-09-22+03:00:00-0000 :::

Code: Select all: dealer status candidate patterns (via private message to g.r.emlin) 1 Pat 4 tarek 22 champagne 87 g.r.emlin past patterns 1 claudiarabia 1 ravel 9 gsf 27 m_b_metcalf 54 tarek 1 draco 1 wintder 19 TTHsieh 30 Mauricio 1 Eioru 3 g.r.emlin 21 champagne 33 JPF 1 pseudocoup 6 ronk 21 coloin 41 Pat

by **g.r.emlin** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:00 am

::: game 0240 open LIGHTNING 2014-09-22+03:00:12-0000 dealer Pat 23 clues diagonal (main) symmetry :::

Code: Select all: . 9 . 1 . . . . . 2 . . . . 5 . . 3 . . 6 . . . 4 . . 8 . . 4 . 3 . . 1 . . . . . . . 7 . . 5 . 2 . 1 . . 8 . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . 2 . 6 . 5 . 7 . 9 . ED=2.3/1.7/1.7

by **g.r.emlin** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:15 am

::: rarity :::

Code: Select all: 2014-09-22+03:00:00-0000 2.3/1.7/1.7 Pat rare ED seen once before

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