The New Sudoku Players' Forum

[m_b_metcalf]

Code: Select all

 1 2 . 3 . . . . .
 4 . 5 . . . 6 . .
 . 6 7 . . . . 2 .
 2 . . 1 . . . 5 .
 . . . . 8 . 4 . .
 . . . . . 7 . . 9
 . 1 . . 5 . 8 . .
 . . 6 4 . . . 3 .
 . . . . . 9 . . 7   ED=10.1/10.1/9.4

A cat amongst the pigeons, blue!

[champagne]

A cat amongst the pigeons, blue!

not so sure. You can find (existing in the data base of potential hardest)

diamonds 10.4 10.5
a 11.3 11.3 10.4

but your 10.7 10.7 9.9 was not (not yet?) in the data base when I prepared patterns for the game

[blue]

You can find (existing in the data base of potential hardest)
diamonds 10.4 10.5
a 11.3 11.3 10.4

That matches my high end cache, except for this one.

Code: Select all

4 1 . 8 . . . . .
8 . 7 . . . 6 . .
. 6 9 . . . . 8 .
1 . . 9 . . . 4 .
. . . . 3 . 2 . .
. . . . . 5 . . 7
. 4 . . 2 . 3 . .
. . 1 6 . . . 9 .
. . . . . 7 . . 5   ED=10.8/10.8/10.5


[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0215 status 2013-10-24+09:27:45-0000 :::

Code: Select all

game 0215 2013-10-21+09:18:00-0000 duration 3d00h dealer champagne pages 1674-1679 (open) 6 players
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    1.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    4.7/1.2/1.2 Pat            8.3/8.3/8.3 WosRet         9.6/9.6/9.5 m_b_metcalf
    1.5/1.2/1.2 champagne      5.8/1.2/1.2 Pat            8.4/8.4/8.4 WosRet         9.7/9.7/9.7 m_b_metcalf
    1.7/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    6.6/6.6/3.4 m_b_metcalf    8.5/8.5/8.5 m_b_metcalf    9.8/9.8/9.4 WosRet
    2.0/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    6.7/6.7/6.7 WosRet         8.6/8.6/8.5 WosRet         9.9/9.9/9.9 m_b_metcalf
    2.3/2.0/2.0 m_b_metcalf    7.1/7.1/7.1 m_b_metcalf    8.7/8.4/7.1 m_b_metcalf  10.0/10.0/9.5 m_b_metcalf
    2.5/2.5/2.5 Pat            7.2/7.2/7.2 WosRet         8.8/8.8/8.4 WosRet       10.1/10.1/9.4 m_b_metcalf
    2.8/2.8/2.8 m_b_metcalf    7.3/7.3/7.3 m_b_metcalf    8.9/8.9/8.9 WosRet       10.2/10.2/9.3 m_b_metcalf
    3.0/3.0/3.0 Pat            7.5/7.5/7.2 m_b_metcalf    9.0/9.0/9.0 m_b_metcalf  10.4/10.4/9.5 m_b_metcalf
    3.4/3.4/3.4 Pat            7.6/7.6/7.6 WosRet         9.1/9.1/9.1 m_b_metcalf  10.5/10.5/9.5 WosRet
    3.6/3.6/3.6 Pat            7.7/7.7/6.6 m_b_metcalf    9.2/9.2/9.2 WosRet      10.6/10.6/10.6 blue
    4.0/4.0/3.6 m_b_metcalf    7.8/7.8/7.8 WosRet         9.3/9.3/9.3 WosRet       10.7/10.7/9.9 m_b_metcalf
    4.5/4.0/3.6 m_b_metcalf    7.9/7.9/6.7 m_b_metcalf    9.4/9.4/9.4 WosRet      10.8/10.8/10.5 blue
    4.6/1.2/1.2 Pat            8.2/8.2/7.1 m_b_metcalf    9.5/9.5/9.5 m_b_metcalf
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 2.6 3.2 3.8 4.2 4.4 4.8-5.2 5.4 5.6 5.7 5.9-6.2 6.5 6.8-7.0 7.4 8.0 8.1 10.3 10.9-11.4 11.6-11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
         GouinJP        0   -150     1h05m  bad-pattern,bad-submission,lower-pearl
       champagne        1    -19         0  dealer
             Pat        7    265     2h01m  diamond*4
            blue        2   1298     3h48m  rare-1,diamond,pearl,highest-rating=506,last-entry=253
          WosRet       14   1651    48m11s  diamond*10,pearl*4
     m_b_metcalf       27   2786     1h20m  rare-0,rare-1,diamond*9,pearl*12
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               6       51   5831            rare-0,rare-1*2,diamond*24,pearl*17


[g.r.emlin]

::: rarity :::

Code: Select all

2013-10-24+09:21:00-0000 10.8/10.8/10.5 blue rare ED seen once before


[champagne]

That matches my high end cache, except for this one.

One point of interest submitting a pattern existing in the data base of potential hardest is to see how many new puzzles come in a deeper search.

I am interested anyway in collecting at the end all puzzles not published but eligible to the data base of potential hardest.

[m_b_metcalf]

Code: Select all

 1 2 . 3 . . . . .
 3 . 4 . . . 1 . .
 . 5 6 . . . . 3 .
 2 . . 5 . . . 7 .
 . . . . 8 . 9 . .
 . . . . . 6 . . 4
 . 7 . . 9 . 8 . .
 . . 2 1 . . . 5 .
 . . . . . 4 . . 6   ED=9.8/9.8/9.8

I'm sitting on some diamond self-trumps, so must be more cautious.

[blue]

Code: Select all

7 6 . 2 . . . . .
8 . 2 . . . 6 . .
. 1 9 . . . . 2 .
9 . . 8 . . . 1 .
. . . . 5 . 4 . .
. . . . . 3 . . 7
. 9 . . 7 . 5 . .
. . 8 1 . . . 6 .
. . . . . 4 . . 3   ED=10.2/10.2/9.9


10.2 ?

[blue]

I am interested anyway in collecting at the end all puzzles not published but eligible to the data base of potential hardest.

What was the low end for inclusion ?
I'll put what I've got in a ::more::

[m_b_metcalf]

Code: Select all

 1 2 . 3 . . . . .
 4 . 3 . . . 2 . .
 . 5 6 . . . . 7 .
 5 . . 7 . . . 1 .
 . . . . 6 . 4 . .
 . . . . . 8 . . 9
 . 1 . . 4 . 8 . .
 . . 5 2 . . . 3 .
 . . . . . 9 . . 6   ED=10.3/10.3/10.0

10.2 ?

No

[blue]

Hi Mike,

I only have what I mentioned above, and a few trumps -- no diamonds over 10.1
I'll wait 'til "more" time, unless you'ld like me to try to keep it going a bit longer.

I don't have anything set up to look for things like 11.x/11.x/1.2
I wonder of those are out there too.

Regards,
Blue.

[m_b_metcalf]

... unless you'ld like me to try to keep it going a bit longer.

I don't have anything set up to look for things like 11.x/11.x/1.2
I wonder of those are out there too.

Blue,
Why don't you rapidly empty your cache? I can't play over the weekend much (attending a seminar).

There have never been submissions of the form 11.x/11.x/1.2. If you meant 11.x/1.2/1.2, there have been eight (none from me, they're too expensive to find).

Regards,

Mike

[blue]

Code: Select all

4 6 . 8 . . . . .
2 . 8 . . . 1 . .
. 5 1 . . . . 8 .
6 . . 4 . . . 9 .
. . . . 5 . 2 . .
. . . . . 3 . . 7
. 4 . . 2 . 3 . .
. . 9 1 . . . 6 .
. . . . . 7 . . 5   ED=10.3/10.3/10.2


There have never been submissions of the form 11.x/11.x/1.2. If you meant 11.x/1.2/1.2, there have been eight (none from me, they're too expensive to find).

Interesting, I didn't know that.
I suppose I meant (high)/(high)/(low), or even (high)/(low)/(low).
I'm really in poor shape for playing this game

[champagne]

Hi Blue

conditions to enter the data base of potential hardest are currently

diamonds 10.3 10.4
pearls 10.5 to 10.8
any rating 10.9 and more

no need to have a post with "more", a simple list is ok


a rating ED=x.y/x.y/1.2 does not exist. If you look at the definition, a single as first move forces a single as hardest before the first assignment.

[g.r.emlin]

::: rarity :::

Code: Select all

2013-10-24+14:43:00-0000 10.3/10.3/10.2 blue rare ED seen 2 times before