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[coloin]

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+---+---+---+
|8.7|..2|...|
|.6.|4..|...|
|1..|..9|7..|
+---+---+---+
|.3.|...|.5.|
|...|...|..1|
|2.1|...|9..|
+---+---+---+
|..8|..7|1..|
|...|5..|..4|
|...|.6.|.73|
+---+---+---+ ED=11.8/1.2/1.2

:::comment:::
the above is a a morph of this puzzle

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.2....78.4.......6.9..7..1....5....3.....1.......9.12..7..1.8..5....4.....67.3...;11.80;1.20;1.20;elev;7;29;22

i found the new skfr 11.6s [which are SE 11.7s] from this one and then discovered they were symmetrical
i will let gremlin check it !
C

[g.r.emlin]

::: adjustment 2012-11-21+18:57:00-0000 coloin se-mismatch -100 :::

[coloin]

:::comment:::
me thinks 2 minutes is a bit quick to check this.......
as my SE is still running
C

[coloin]

:::comment:::
yes this is the same puzzle as champagnes 11.7
so yes we could morph the other ones in an attempt to get an 11.8
i didnt know SE could get be morph dependant at this level ....... until now
C

[champagne]

::: comment :::

here are the 2 that mike also has in cache

1.2..3....4.5.....6....21...7.....8.........93.9...2....6..19.....8....5....4..17 11.7 1.2 1.2
1.2..3....4.5.....6....12...7.....8.........93.9...1....6..29.....8....7....4..25 11.7 1.2 1.2

Yes it could be possible to find a morph rated 11.8, we have seen that several times in the pattern game,
But the chances are higher if you change the pattern

[gsf]

:::comment:::
me thinks 2 minutes is a bit quick to check this.......
as my SE is still running
C

g.r.emlin took a shortcut
your entry was a morph of champagne's 11.7/1.2/1.2 and this was detected
and the "se mismatch" message was chosen over "duplicate entry" because it conveys a little more info
if g.r.emlin had done the rating it would have take ~28min

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0193 idle 2012-11-22+14:29:35-0000 -- with no further entries the game will close at 2012-11-22+17:00:00-0000 :::

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game 0193 2012-11-14+16:40:00-0000 duration 6d23h dealer coloin pages 1494-1509 (open) 6 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 gsf            4.8/1.2/1.2 joel64         7.5/2.6/2.6 gsf            9.4/9.4/9.4 joel64
    1.5/1.5/1.5 gsf            5.0/2.6/2.6 joel64         7.6/3.4/2.6 gsf            9.5/9.5/9.3 gsf
    1.7/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    5.2/2.6/2.6 joel64         7.7/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    9.6/9.6/9.4 joel64
    2.0/2.0/2.0 joel64         5.4/1.2/1.2 joel64         7.8/3.4/2.6 gsf            9.7/9.7/9.4 joel64
    2.3/2.3/2.3 gsf            5.6/2.6/2.6 joel64         7.9/2.6/2.6 gsf            9.8/9.8/9.5 champagne
    2.5/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    5.7/2.6/2.6 joel64         8.0/1.2/1.2 joel64         9.9/9.9/9.7 champagne
    2.6/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    5.8/1.2/1.2 champagne      8.1/1.2/1.2 champagne    10.0/10.0/9.5 champagne
    2.8/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    5.9/1.2/1.2 joel64         8.2/2.6/2.6 gsf         10.1/10.1/10.0 gsf
    3.0/3.0/2.6 m_b_metcalf    6.2/2.6/2.6 joel64         8.3/8.3/8.3 joel64       10.3/10.3/3.4 gsf
    3.2/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    6.5/2.6/2.6 joel64         8.4/8.4/8.3 m_b_metcalf  10.4/10.4/9.3 champagne
    3.4/3.4/3.4 joel64         6.6/3.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    8.5/8.5/3.4 joel64       10.5/10.5/3.4 m_b_metcalf
    3.6/3.6/2.6 gsf            6.7/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    8.6/7.2/2.6 gsf          10.6/10.6/9.4 champagne
    3.8/3.4/2.6 m_b_metcalf    6.8/3.0/2.6 m_b_metcalf    8.7/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf  10.7/10.7/9.3 champagne
    4.0/3.4/2.6 joel64         6.9/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    8.8/8.8/8.8 joel64       10.8/10.8/3.4 champagne
    4.2/3.4/2.6 m_b_metcalf    7.0/2.6/2.6 joel64         8.9/8.9/8.9 champagne     11.0/1.2/1.2 gsf
    4.4/2.6/2.6 joel64         7.1/7.1/2.6 gsf            9.0/9.0/9.0 champagne     11.1/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf
    4.5/3.0/2.6 gsf            7.2/7.1/2.6 gsf            9.1/9.1/9.1 joel64        11.2/1.2/1.2 coloin
    4.6/2.6/2.6 joel64         7.3/7.3/3.4 gsf            9.2/9.2/9.2 m_b_metcalf   11.7/1.2/1.2 champagne
    4.7/1.2/1.2 joel64         7.4/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    9.3/9.3/9.3 joel64
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    rare ratings : 11.0 11.2 11.7

    open ratings : 4.9 5.1 6.0 6.1 10.2 10.9 11.3 11.4 11.6 11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
             Pat        0      0     1m59s 
          coloin        1      3     4h33m  rare-0,se-mismatch*2,dealer
     m_b_metcalf       19   1938     1h07m  rare-0*4,rare-1*2,rare-2,diamond*2,pearl*3,consecutive-entry,dup-puzzle
          joel64       25   2936    57m56s  rare-0,rare-1*3,diamond*6,pearl*3
       champagne       12   3334    34m49s  rare-0,rare-1,diamond*2,pearl*7,highest-rating=675,bad-submission
             gsf       18   3561     1h43m  rare-0*8,rare-1*5,rare-2*10,pearl*6,last-entry=528
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               6       75  11772            rare-0*15,rare-1*11,rare-2*11,diamond*10,pearl*19


[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0193 closed (idle for 1d00h) -- preliminary results :::

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game 0193 2012-11-14+16:40:00-0000 duration 6d23h dealer coloin pages 1494-1509 (final) 6 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 gsf            4.8/1.2/1.2 joel64         7.5/2.6/2.6 gsf            9.4/9.4/9.4 joel64
    1.5/1.5/1.5 gsf            5.0/2.6/2.6 joel64         7.6/3.4/2.6 gsf            9.5/9.5/9.3 gsf
    1.7/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    5.2/2.6/2.6 joel64         7.7/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    9.6/9.6/9.4 joel64
    2.0/2.0/2.0 joel64         5.4/1.2/1.2 joel64         7.8/3.4/2.6 gsf            9.7/9.7/9.4 joel64
    2.3/2.3/2.3 gsf            5.6/2.6/2.6 joel64         7.9/2.6/2.6 gsf            9.8/9.8/9.5 champagne
    2.5/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    5.7/2.6/2.6 joel64         8.0/1.2/1.2 joel64         9.9/9.9/9.7 champagne
    2.6/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    5.8/1.2/1.2 champagne      8.1/1.2/1.2 champagne    10.0/10.0/9.5 champagne
    2.8/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    5.9/1.2/1.2 joel64         8.2/2.6/2.6 gsf         10.1/10.1/10.0 gsf
    3.0/3.0/2.6 m_b_metcalf    6.2/2.6/2.6 joel64         8.3/8.3/8.3 joel64       10.3/10.3/3.4 gsf
    3.2/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    6.5/2.6/2.6 joel64         8.4/8.4/8.3 m_b_metcalf  10.4/10.4/9.3 champagne
    3.4/3.4/3.4 joel64         6.6/3.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    8.5/8.5/3.4 joel64       10.5/10.5/3.4 m_b_metcalf
    3.6/3.6/2.6 gsf            6.7/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    8.6/7.2/2.6 gsf          10.6/10.6/9.4 champagne
    3.8/3.4/2.6 m_b_metcalf    6.8/3.0/2.6 m_b_metcalf    8.7/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf  10.7/10.7/9.3 champagne
    4.0/3.4/2.6 joel64         6.9/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    8.8/8.8/8.8 joel64       10.8/10.8/3.4 champagne
    4.2/3.4/2.6 m_b_metcalf    7.0/2.6/2.6 joel64         8.9/8.9/8.9 champagne     11.0/1.2/1.2 gsf
    4.4/2.6/2.6 joel64         7.1/7.1/2.6 gsf            9.0/9.0/9.0 champagne     11.1/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf
    4.5/3.0/2.6 gsf            7.2/7.1/2.6 gsf            9.1/9.1/9.1 joel64        11.2/1.2/1.2 coloin
    4.6/2.6/2.6 joel64         7.3/7.3/3.4 gsf            9.2/9.2/9.2 m_b_metcalf   11.7/1.2/1.2 champagne
    4.7/1.2/1.2 joel64         7.4/2.6/2.6 m_b_metcalf    9.3/9.3/9.3 joel64
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    rare ratings : 11.0 11.2 11.7

    open ratings : 4.9 5.1 6.0 6.1 10.2 10.9 11.3 11.4 11.6 11.8

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
             Pat        0      0     1m59s 
          coloin        1      3     4h33m  rare-0,se-mismatch*2,dealer
     m_b_metcalf       19   1938     1h07m  rare-0*4,rare-1*2,rare-2,diamond*2,pearl*3,consecutive-entry,dup-puzzle
          joel64       25   2936    57m56s  rare-0,rare-1*3,diamond*6,pearl*3
       champagne       12   3334    34m49s  rare-0,rare-1,diamond*2,pearl*7,highest-rating=675,bad-submission
             gsf       18   3561     1h43m  rare-0*8,rare-1*5,rare-2*10,pearl*6,last-entry=528
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               6       75  11772            rare-0*15,rare-1*11,rare-2*11,diamond*10,pearl*19


[gsf]

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102003000040500000300001900020000080000000004905000100003006500000400006000050028 1.7/1.5/1.5
102006000030400000500008700080000040000000006709000800006004300000500001000070092 2.5/2.3/2.3
102003000040500000300002800020000050000000001604000700006005400000100008000080079 6.7/3.0/2.6
102003000040700000300002900020000010000000007805000200006005800000100009000090034 7.1/7.1/6.7
102003000040500000300002700020000080000000006803000200008001300000600007000050064 7.2/7.2/2.6
102003000040500000300002900020000080000000007803000200008001300000600009000040075 7.6/7.2/2.6
102003000040500000300001600070000080000000005603000200001002300000800002000060074 7.8/7.3/3.4
102003000040500000600002100070000040000000007806000900009008600000700008000040019 8.0/2.6/2.6
102003000040500000300006800090000060000000001708000300006007200000800009000010054 8.6/8.4/2.6
102003000040900000600001700050000090000000005301000200006002300000400002000070084 10.2/1.2/1.2


[m_b_metcalf]

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102003000040500000600004100070000080000000002809000700003002400000700009000080056   ED=6.7/3.4/2.6   


[champagne]

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1.2..3....4.5.....6....14...7.....8.........53.9...2....1..69.....8....7....5..64 ED=10.3/10.3/9.4
1.2..3....4.2.....5....63...7.....8.........92.5...6....1..25.....3....7....9..48 ED=8.7/8.7/2.6
1.2..3....4.5.....6....78...3.....1.........45.8...9....7..24.....9....3....1..65 ED=8.6/8.6/2.6
1.2..3....4.5.....5....63...7.....5.........78.9...6....1..92.....7....4....5..68 ED=8.5/8.5/8.4
1.2..3....4.5.....3....67...2.....5.........26.7...8....3..16.....2....4....5..98 ED=8.2/8.2/3.4
1.2..3....4.5.....6....17...8.....3.........97.5...1....3..62.....9....6....4..58 ED=7.4/7.4/2.6
1.2..3....4.2.....3....56...2.....7.........86.7...3....5..81.....7....4....2..87 ED=7.2/7.2/3.4
1.2..3....4.5.....6....41...7.....8.........28.9...7....3..24.....7....9....8..56 ED=6.7/3.4/2.6
1.2..3....4.5.....3....26...7.....8.........96.4...1....3..82.....9....5....7..98 ED=6.6/4.5/3.4
1.2..3....4.5.....3....67...2.....4.........26.5...8....9..16.....4....5....2..19 ED=5.8/2.3/2.3
1.2..3....4.5.....3....26...7.....8.........96.4...1....3..82.....9....8....7..95 ED=5.6/4.5/3.4
1.2..3....4.5.....6....12...7.....4.........78.6...1....8..67.....4....5....7..39 ED=4.7/2.6/2.6
1.2..3....3.2.....4....56...7.....8.........52.6...3....5..72.....8....9....9..14 ED=4.6/3.6/3.4
1.2..3....4.5.....3....26...2.....1.........78.5...3....8..52.....1....9....9..74 ED=4.5/4.5/2.6
1.2..3....4.5.....6....71...8.....6.........89.3...2....9..63.....4....1....8..25 ED=4.2/4.0/2.6
1.2..3....3.2.....4....56...7.....4.........52.6...3....5..72.....4....1....6..89 ED=3.6/3.6/3.4


[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0194 start LIGHTNING at 2012-11-26+02:00:00-0000 :::

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dealer status

candidate patterns (via private message to g.r.emlin)

   1 Pat              17 tarek            87 g.r.emlin

past patterns

   1 claudiarabia      1 ravel             6 ronk             25 m_b_metcalf      41 tarek
   1 draco             1 wintder           9 gsf              27 Pat
   1 Eioru             3 g.r.emlin        19 TTHsieh          28 Mauricio
   1 pseudocoup        6 champagne        21 coloin           33 JPF


[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0194 open LIGHTNING 2012-11-26+02:00:12-0000 dealer Pat 24 clues pi rotational (180 degrees) symmetry :::

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. 9 . . . 8 . . .
6 . . 1 . . . . 5
. . . . 7 . . 4 .
4 . . 5 . 2 . 7 .
. . 2 . . . 3 . .
. 5 . 6 . 9 . . 8
. 1 . . 6 . . . .
7 . . . . 4 . . 2
. . . 8 . . . 9 .  ED=2.3/1.2/1.2

[gsf]

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. 9 . . . 3 . . .
3 . . 1 . . . . 6
. . . . 7 . . 4 .
4 . . 5 . 2 . 7 .
. . 2 . . . 8 . .
. 5 . 6 . 9 . . 1
. 8 . . 3 . . . .
7 . . . . 6 . . 3
. . . 8 . . . 1 .  ED=1.2/1.2/1.2

[m_b_metcalf]

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 . 1 . . . 2 . . .
 3 . . 4 . . . . 5
 . . . . 5 . . 6 .
 2 . . 7 . 8 . 3 .
 . . 8 . . . 6 . .
 . 3 . 6 . 5 . . 1
 . 8 . . 7 . . . .
 7 . . . . 9 . . 3
 . . . 1 . . . 2 .   ED=9.1/7.8/7.8

Regards,

Mike Metcalf