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[ronk]

::: comment :::

surely not the best way to win, but I could not resist to post it

Since two submissions earlier you "could not resist to post" a mundane [edit: 5.9/1.2/1.2], this claim rings rather hollow.

The 10.8 pearl is a nice discovery nonetheless.

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0146 idle LIGHTNING 2011-07-18+19:24:23-0000 -- with no further entries the game will close at 2011-07-18+22:00:00-0000 :::

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game 0146 2011-07-11+19:00:00-0000 LIGHTNING duration 6d02h dealer ronk pages 993-1002 (open) 4 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 ronk           4.7/4.7/3.4 ronk           7.5/7.5/7.5 joel64         9.4/9.4/9.4 joel64
    1.5/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    5.0/1.2/1.2 champagne      7.6/7.6/7.6 ronk           9.5/9.5/9.5 m_b_metcalf
    1.7/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    5.2/2.8/2.8 m_b_metcalf    7.7/7.7/7.5 joel64         9.6/9.6/9.6 champagne
    2.0/2.0/2.0 joel64         5.6/4.5/2.8 champagne      7.8/7.8/7.8 joel64         9.7/9.7/9.7 joel64
    2.3/2.0/2.0 champagne      5.7/3.6/3.6 champagne      7.9/7.9/7.8 joel64         9.8/9.8/9.8 champagne
    2.5/2.5/2.5 ronk           5.8/3.4/3.4 champagne      8.0/8.0/3.6 ronk           9.9/9.9/9.9 ronk
    2.6/2.5/2.5 champagne      5.9/1.2/1.2 champagne      8.2/8.2/8.2 ronk        10.0/10.0/10.0 joel64
    2.8/2.8/2.8 joel64         6.2/3.4/3.4 ronk           8.3/8.3/8.3 ronk        10.1/10.1/10.1 champagne
    3.0/3.0/3.0 ronk           6.5/3.6/3.6 ronk           8.4/8.4/8.4 m_b_metcalf 10.2/10.2/10.1 champagne
    3.2/3.2/3.2 ronk           6.6/6.6/6.6 joel64         8.5/8.5/8.5 ronk        10.3/10.3/10.3 champagne
    3.4/3.4/3.4 joel64         6.7/6.7/6.7 joel64         8.6/8.6/8.6 ronk        10.4/10.4/10.4 champagne
    3.6/3.6/3.6 joel64         6.8/6.8/3.4 ronk           8.7/8.7/8.7 ronk        10.5/10.5/10.5 champagne
    3.8/3.8/3.4 champagne      6.9/6.7/6.7 joel64         8.8/8.8/8.8 ronk        10.6/10.6/10.6 champagne
    4.0/4.0/4.0 ronk           7.0/7.0/7.0 ronk           8.9/8.9/8.9 ronk        10.7/10.7/10.4 champagne
    4.2/4.2/4.2 ronk           7.1/7.1/7.1 m_b_metcalf    9.0/9.0/9.0 ronk        10.8/10.8/10.1 champagne
    4.4/4.4/4.4 ronk           7.2/7.2/7.2 ronk           9.1/9.1/9.1 m_b_metcalf
    4.5/4.5/3.4 joel64         7.3/7.3/7.3 ronk           9.2/9.2/9.2 m_b_metcalf
    4.6/4.6/3.4 ronk           7.4/7.4/7.4 ronk           9.3/9.3/9.3 ronk
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 4.8 4.9 5.1 5.4 6.0 6.1 8.1 10.9-11.4

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
     m_b_metcalf        8    825    49m36s  rare-0*3,rare-1*2,diamond*5
          joel64       15   1657    39m18s  rare-0*3,rare-2,diamond*10,pearl*3
            ronk       28   2801     2h53m  rare-0,rare-2,diamond*21,pearl*4,dealer
       champagne       18   4204     1h24m  rare-0,rare-2*2,diamond*7,pearl*4,highest-rating=816,last-entry=412
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               4       69   9487            rare-0*8,rare-1*2,rare-2*4,diamond*43,pearl*11


[ronk]

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 . . . . . 8 . . 7
 . . 3 . 7 . . 5 .
 . 9 . 4 . . 6 . .
 . . 2 . . . . 4 .
 . 7 . . 5 . . . 8
 8 . . . . 3 7 . .
 . . 1 . . 6 5 . .
 . 4 . 2 . . . 3 .
 2 . . . 1 . . . .    ED=8.1/8.1/3.4

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0146 resume LIGHTNING :::

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game 0146 2011-07-11+19:00:00-0000 LIGHTNING duration 1w00d dealer ronk pages 993-1002 (open) 4 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 ronk           4.7/4.7/3.4 ronk           7.5/7.5/7.5 joel64         9.3/9.3/9.3 ronk
    1.5/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    5.0/1.2/1.2 champagne      7.6/7.6/7.6 ronk           9.4/9.4/9.4 joel64
    1.7/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    5.2/2.8/2.8 m_b_metcalf    7.7/7.7/7.5 joel64         9.5/9.5/9.5 m_b_metcalf
    2.0/2.0/2.0 joel64         5.6/4.5/2.8 champagne      7.8/7.8/7.8 joel64         9.6/9.6/9.6 champagne
    2.3/2.0/2.0 champagne      5.7/3.6/3.6 champagne      7.9/7.9/7.8 joel64         9.7/9.7/9.7 joel64
    2.5/2.5/2.5 ronk           5.8/3.4/3.4 champagne      8.0/8.0/3.6 ronk           9.8/9.8/9.8 champagne
    2.6/2.5/2.5 champagne      5.9/1.2/1.2 champagne      8.1/8.1/3.4 ronk           9.9/9.9/9.9 ronk
    2.8/2.8/2.8 joel64         6.2/3.4/3.4 ronk           8.2/8.2/8.2 ronk        10.0/10.0/10.0 joel64
    3.0/3.0/3.0 ronk           6.5/3.6/3.6 ronk           8.3/8.3/8.3 ronk        10.1/10.1/10.1 champagne
    3.2/3.2/3.2 ronk           6.6/6.6/6.6 joel64         8.4/8.4/8.4 m_b_metcalf 10.2/10.2/10.1 champagne
    3.4/3.4/3.4 joel64         6.7/6.7/6.7 joel64         8.5/8.5/8.5 ronk        10.3/10.3/10.3 champagne
    3.6/3.6/3.6 joel64         6.8/6.8/3.4 ronk           8.6/8.6/8.6 ronk        10.4/10.4/10.4 champagne
    3.8/3.8/3.4 champagne      6.9/6.7/6.7 joel64         8.7/8.7/8.7 ronk        10.5/10.5/10.5 champagne
    4.0/4.0/4.0 ronk           7.0/7.0/7.0 ronk           8.8/8.8/8.8 ronk        10.6/10.6/10.6 champagne
    4.2/4.2/4.2 ronk           7.1/7.1/7.1 m_b_metcalf    8.9/8.9/8.9 ronk        10.7/10.7/10.4 champagne
    4.4/4.4/4.4 ronk           7.2/7.2/7.2 ronk           9.0/9.0/9.0 ronk        10.8/10.8/10.1 champagne
    4.5/4.5/3.4 joel64         7.3/7.3/7.3 ronk           9.1/9.1/9.1 m_b_metcalf
    4.6/4.6/3.4 ronk           7.4/7.4/7.4 ronk           9.2/9.2/9.2 m_b_metcalf
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 4.8 4.9 5.1 5.4 6.0 6.1 10.9-11.4

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
     m_b_metcalf        8    825    49m36s  rare-0*3,rare-1*2,diamond*5
          joel64       15   1657    39m18s  rare-0*3,rare-2,diamond*10,pearl*3
            ronk       29   3539     3h32m  rare-0,rare-1,rare-2,diamond*21,pearl*5,last-entry=423,dealer
       champagne       18   3693     1h24m  rare-0,rare-2*2,diamond*7,pearl*4,highest-rating=816
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               4       70   9714            rare-0*8,rare-1*3,rare-2*4,diamond*43,pearl*12


[g.r.emlin]

::: rarity :::

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2011-07-18+19:27:00-0000 8.1/8.1/3.4 ronk rare ED seen once before


[champagne]

::: comment :::

::: comment :::

surely not the best way to win, but I could not resist to post it

Since two submissions earlier you "could not resist to post" a mundane 6.5/1.2/1.2, this claim rings rather hollow.

The 10.8 pearl is a nice discovery nonetheless.

I don't catch your point.

I guess you have in mind the 5.0/1.2/1.2, but at that time, i could not win doing nothing.


champagne

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0146 idle LIGHTNING 2011-07-19+17:31:09-0000 -- with no further entries the game will close at 2011-07-19+20:00:00-0000 :::

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game 0146 2011-07-11+19:00:00-0000 LIGHTNING duration 1w00d dealer ronk pages 993-1002 (open) 4 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 ronk           4.7/4.7/3.4 ronk           7.5/7.5/7.5 joel64         9.3/9.3/9.3 ronk
    1.5/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    5.0/1.2/1.2 champagne      7.6/7.6/7.6 ronk           9.4/9.4/9.4 joel64
    1.7/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    5.2/2.8/2.8 m_b_metcalf    7.7/7.7/7.5 joel64         9.5/9.5/9.5 m_b_metcalf
    2.0/2.0/2.0 joel64         5.6/4.5/2.8 champagne      7.8/7.8/7.8 joel64         9.6/9.6/9.6 champagne
    2.3/2.0/2.0 champagne      5.7/3.6/3.6 champagne      7.9/7.9/7.8 joel64         9.7/9.7/9.7 joel64
    2.5/2.5/2.5 ronk           5.8/3.4/3.4 champagne      8.0/8.0/3.6 ronk           9.8/9.8/9.8 champagne
    2.6/2.5/2.5 champagne      5.9/1.2/1.2 champagne      8.1/8.1/3.4 ronk           9.9/9.9/9.9 ronk
    2.8/2.8/2.8 joel64         6.2/3.4/3.4 ronk           8.2/8.2/8.2 ronk        10.0/10.0/10.0 joel64
    3.0/3.0/3.0 ronk           6.5/3.6/3.6 ronk           8.3/8.3/8.3 ronk        10.1/10.1/10.1 champagne
    3.2/3.2/3.2 ronk           6.6/6.6/6.6 joel64         8.4/8.4/8.4 m_b_metcalf 10.2/10.2/10.1 champagne
    3.4/3.4/3.4 joel64         6.7/6.7/6.7 joel64         8.5/8.5/8.5 ronk        10.3/10.3/10.3 champagne
    3.6/3.6/3.6 joel64         6.8/6.8/3.4 ronk           8.6/8.6/8.6 ronk        10.4/10.4/10.4 champagne
    3.8/3.8/3.4 champagne      6.9/6.7/6.7 joel64         8.7/8.7/8.7 ronk        10.5/10.5/10.5 champagne
    4.0/4.0/4.0 ronk           7.0/7.0/7.0 ronk           8.8/8.8/8.8 ronk        10.6/10.6/10.6 champagne
    4.2/4.2/4.2 ronk           7.1/7.1/7.1 m_b_metcalf    8.9/8.9/8.9 ronk        10.7/10.7/10.4 champagne
    4.4/4.4/4.4 ronk           7.2/7.2/7.2 ronk           9.0/9.0/9.0 ronk        10.8/10.8/10.1 champagne
    4.5/4.5/3.4 joel64         7.3/7.3/7.3 ronk           9.1/9.1/9.1 m_b_metcalf
    4.6/4.6/3.4 ronk           7.4/7.4/7.4 ronk           9.2/9.2/9.2 m_b_metcalf
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 4.8 4.9 5.1 5.4 6.0 6.1 10.9-11.4

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
     m_b_metcalf        8    825    49m36s  rare-0*3,rare-1*2,diamond*5
          joel64       15   1657    39m18s  rare-0*3,rare-2,diamond*10,pearl*3
            ronk       29   3539     3h32m  rare-0,rare-1,rare-2,diamond*21,pearl*5,last-entry=423,dealer
       champagne       18   3693     1h24m  rare-0,rare-2*2,diamond*7,pearl*4,highest-rating=816
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               4       70   9714            rare-0*8,rare-1*3,rare-2*4,diamond*43,pearl*12


[ronk]

::: comment :::

Since two submissions earlier you "could not resist to post" a mundane 6.5/1.2/1.2, this claim rings rather hollow.

I don't catch your point.

I guess you have in mind the 5.0/1.2/1.2, but at that time, i could not win doing nothing.

Oops, I had in mind the 5.9/1.2/1.2 , "two submissions earlier" as I wrote. Just as for the 10.8/10.8/10.1, you would have won doing nothing.

[champagne]

::: comment :::

Since two submissions earlier you "could not resist to post" a mundane 6.5/1.2/1.2, this claim rings rather hollow.

I don't catch your point.

I guess you have in mind the 5.0/1.2/1.2, but at that time, i could not win doing nothing.

Oops, I had in mind the 5.9/1.2/1.2 , "two submissions earlier" as I wrote. Just as for the 10.8/10.8/10.1, you would have won doing nothing.

I missed it, but I am surprised. unhappily, I have no record of the score at that time.

As I have in mind a very small differential after the 10.3 diamond, which is scored very high, I would be interested to see the position before the 5.9.

But as you'll see if nobody else comes, there was still some room in the 10.7 area for others.

champagne

[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0146 closed LIGHTNING (idle for 1d00h) -- preliminary results :::

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game 0146 2011-07-11+19:00:00-0000 LIGHTNING duration 1w00d dealer ronk pages 993-1002 (final) 4 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 ronk           4.7/4.7/3.4 ronk           7.5/7.5/7.5 joel64         9.3/9.3/9.3 ronk
    1.5/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    5.0/1.2/1.2 champagne      7.6/7.6/7.6 ronk           9.4/9.4/9.4 joel64
    1.7/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf    5.2/2.8/2.8 m_b_metcalf    7.7/7.7/7.5 joel64         9.5/9.5/9.5 m_b_metcalf
    2.0/2.0/2.0 joel64         5.6/4.5/2.8 champagne      7.8/7.8/7.8 joel64         9.6/9.6/9.6 champagne
    2.3/2.0/2.0 champagne      5.7/3.6/3.6 champagne      7.9/7.9/7.8 joel64         9.7/9.7/9.7 joel64
    2.5/2.5/2.5 ronk           5.8/3.4/3.4 champagne      8.0/8.0/3.6 ronk           9.8/9.8/9.8 champagne
    2.6/2.5/2.5 champagne      5.9/1.2/1.2 champagne      8.1/8.1/3.4 ronk           9.9/9.9/9.9 ronk
    2.8/2.8/2.8 joel64         6.2/3.4/3.4 ronk           8.2/8.2/8.2 ronk        10.0/10.0/10.0 joel64
    3.0/3.0/3.0 ronk           6.5/3.6/3.6 ronk           8.3/8.3/8.3 ronk        10.1/10.1/10.1 champagne
    3.2/3.2/3.2 ronk           6.6/6.6/6.6 joel64         8.4/8.4/8.4 m_b_metcalf 10.2/10.2/10.1 champagne
    3.4/3.4/3.4 joel64         6.7/6.7/6.7 joel64         8.5/8.5/8.5 ronk        10.3/10.3/10.3 champagne
    3.6/3.6/3.6 joel64         6.8/6.8/3.4 ronk           8.6/8.6/8.6 ronk        10.4/10.4/10.4 champagne
    3.8/3.8/3.4 champagne      6.9/6.7/6.7 joel64         8.7/8.7/8.7 ronk        10.5/10.5/10.5 champagne
    4.0/4.0/4.0 ronk           7.0/7.0/7.0 ronk           8.8/8.8/8.8 ronk        10.6/10.6/10.6 champagne
    4.2/4.2/4.2 ronk           7.1/7.1/7.1 m_b_metcalf    8.9/8.9/8.9 ronk        10.7/10.7/10.4 champagne
    4.4/4.4/4.4 ronk           7.2/7.2/7.2 ronk           9.0/9.0/9.0 ronk        10.8/10.8/10.1 champagne
    4.5/4.5/3.4 joel64         7.3/7.3/7.3 ronk           9.1/9.1/9.1 m_b_metcalf
    4.6/4.6/3.4 ronk           7.4/7.4/7.4 ronk           9.2/9.2/9.2 m_b_metcalf
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 4.8 4.9 5.1 5.4 6.0 6.1 10.9-11.4

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
     m_b_metcalf        8    825    49m36s  rare-0*3,rare-1*2,diamond*5
          joel64       15   1657    39m18s  rare-0*3,rare-2,diamond*10,pearl*3
            ronk       29   3539     3h32m  rare-0,rare-1,rare-2,diamond*21,pearl*5,last-entry=423,dealer
       champagne       18   3693     1h24m  rare-0,rare-2*2,diamond*7,pearl*4,highest-rating=816
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               4       70   9714            rare-0*8,rare-1*3,rare-2*4,diamond*43,pearl*12


[m_b_metcalf]

::: more :::

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000001002003040050050600100007000040060020008400006300006003800040900010900060000   ED=1.5/1.5/1.5   
000001002003020040040500600007000080050010007900005300005003700080600090600050000   ED=1.7/1.5/1.5   


[champagne]

::: more :::

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.....3..4..9.5..2..6.2..5....5....9..2..8...11....67....8..53...7.9...8.4...3.... ED=4.5/4.5/3.6
.....1..3..1.5..7..6.7..2....5....3..7..9...18....56....9..24...4.6...2.2...8.... ED=4.8/1.2/1.2
.....8..4..3.5..8..9.7..1....4....3..8..6...71....25....7..42...5.2...9.2...1.... ED=5.7/4.2/3.2 
.....7..4..3.2..7..4.5..6....5....3..7..8...21....97....6..84...2.3...8.9...1.... ED=6.2/6.2/3.4
.....1..4..3.4..8..6.5..7....1....3..7..1...58....24....9..36...5.2...9.2...6.... ED=8.0/8.0/7.1
.....7..4..3.6..8..9.5..6....5....3..7..8...91....47....7..62...5.2...4.2...1.... ED=10.7/10.7/10.5 
.....2..4..3.5..7..9.6..2....6....1..7..4...85....97....1..85...6.7...8.8...1.... ED=10.7/10.7/10.6


[ronk]

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000008007001020060040500900003000070080040006700006500005004100010200030200010000    ED=5.0/2.5/2.5
000009006009020040030500800004000070090030008700006500005004100040200030200010000    ED=8.0/8.0/7.8


[ronk]

::: comment :::

I had in mind the 5.9/1.2/1.2 , "two submissions earlier" as I wrote. Just as for the 10.8/10.8/10.1, you would have won doing nothing.

I missed it, but I am surprised. unhappily, I have no record of the score at that time.

As I have in mind a very small differential after the 10.3 diamond, which is scored very high, I would be interested to see the position before the 5.9.

I don't have the position at that time either. I began saving the scores after my plays starting with my follow-up 6.2/3.4/3.4. At that time it was ...

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       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
     -----------  -------  -----  --------  -----
     m_b_metcalf        8    825    49m36s  rare-0*3,rare-1*2,diamond*5
          joel64       16   1855    39m18s  rare-0*3,rare-2,diamond*10,pearl*4
            ronk       27   3171     2h09m  rare-0,rare-2,diamond*21,pearl*3,last-entry=395,dealer
       champagne       17   3203    32m25s  rare-2*2,diamond*6,pearl*3,highest-rating=751
     -----------  -------  -----            -----
               4       68   9054            rare-0*7,rare-1*2,rare-2*4,diamond*42,pearl*10

Since you seem to believe no one else besides yourself, you can work backwards from there.

But as you'll see if nobody else comes, there was still some room in the 10.7 area for others.

A diversionary smokescreen that makes no difference that I can see. Anyone besides you could still have played a 10.7 after you played your 5.9. If anyone played a 10.7 first, you could then still play your 5.9. Only a handful of points difference either way.

[champagne]

Hi ronk,

I don't understand what you intend to prove.

I noticed that you are acting as moderator in that forum.

Unhappily, as far as I am concerned, most of your replies to my posts push to fight, what I don't like at all.

I think it's time to give up

champagne