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[g.r.emlin]

::: game 0139 status 2011-04-21+13:05:33-0000 :::

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game 0139 2011-04-20+00:00:00-0000 LIGHTNING duration 1d13h dealer Pat pages 916-922 (open) 5 players
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 gsf            5.9/3.8/3.8 joel64         8.0/8.0/3.8 ronk           9.3/9.3/9.3 joel64
    1.7/1.2/1.2 Pat            6.6/3.8/3.4 gsf            8.2/7.4/3.4 ronk           9.4/9.4/9.4 gsf
    2.0/2.0/2.0 joel64         6.7/3.8/3.4 gsf            8.3/8.3/8.3 joel64         9.5/9.5/9.5 ronk
    2.5/2.5/2.5 joel64         7.1/7.1/7.1 ronk           8.4/8.4/8.4 joel64         9.6/9.6/9.6 ronk
    2.8/2.8/2.8 gsf            7.2/7.2/7.2 ronk           8.5/8.5/8.5 ronk           9.7/9.7/9.7 joel64
    3.0/3.0/3.0 joel64         7.3/7.3/7.3 ronk           8.6/8.5/3.0 ronk           9.8/9.8/9.8 Mauricio
    3.4/3.4/3.4 gsf            7.4/7.3/3.0 ronk           8.7/8.3/3.4 gsf            9.9/9.9/9.9 joel64
    3.6/3.6/3.6 joel64         7.5/7.3/3.8 gsf            8.8/8.8/8.8 joel64      10.0/10.0/10.0 ronk
    3.8/3.8/3.8 gsf            7.6/7.3/3.0 gsf            8.9/8.9/8.9 ronk        10.1/10.1/10.1 Mauricio
    4.2/3.6/3.4 gsf            7.7/7.2/3.4 gsf            9.0/9.0/9.0 ronk         10.2/10.2/9.6 Mauricio
    5.6/4.6/3.4 joel64         7.8/7.6/3.4 ronk           9.1/9.1/9.1 ronk         10.5/10.5/9.8 joel64
    5.7/4.4/3.4 joel64         7.9/7.9/3.8 ronk           9.2/9.2/9.2 ronk        10.6/10.6/10.6 Mauricio
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    open ratings : 1.5 2.3 2.6 3.2 4.0 4.4-5.2 5.4 5.8 6.0-6.2 6.5 6.8-7.0 8.1 10.3 10.4 10.7-11.4

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
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             Pat        1     14    30m59s  dealer
        Mauricio        4   1314     1h10m  rare-1,diamond*3,pearl,highest-rating=511
          joel64       14   1477    38m55s  rare-0*2,rare-1*2,diamond*9,pearl
             gsf       12   1760    22m51s  rare-0*4,rare-1*5,rare-2*5,diamond*4,last-entry=297
            ronk       17   2191    45m27s  rare-0*5,rare-1,diamond*11,pearl*2
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               5       48   6756            rare-0*11,rare-1*9,rare-2*5,diamond*27,pearl*4


[g.r.emlin]

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2011-04-21+13:00:00-0000 4.2/3.6/3.4 gsf rare ED seen once before


[joel64]

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[g.r.emlin]

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2011-04-21+13:17:00-0000 6.2/6.2/3.8 joel64 rare ED seen 2 times before


[ronk]

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gsf, is an edited ::: more ::: submission ignored? The reason I ask is my two puzzles for game 0138 were not accepted. However, as you expected, a ::: more ::: with a single puzzle was accepted, as evidenced by joel64's post which follows.

[gsf]

::: comment :::

gsf, is an edited ::: more ::: submission ignored? The reason I ask is my two puzzles for game 0138 were not accepted.

the answer is wishy-washy
the referee polls the last page in the thread every 5 min
when the page fills and the thread spills over to a new page the previous last page is cached and not re-polled
in addition, once the next game starts, any changes made to posts for the previous game, even if in the current last page, are ignored
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edits in the last page for the current game will be seen

if you and/or other players collate the missing ::: more ::: entries from previous games into one post
then I can manually add them to the corresponding results pages

[ronk]

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the referee polls the last page in the thread every 5 min
when the page fills and the thread spills over to a new page the previous last page is cached and not re-polled

For the particular case cited, I don't believe that explains what happened. Well before game 0139 started, I changed from 3 puzzles to 2 puzzles within the code tag. The 1st and 2nd puzzles had been identical so, cached or not, the referee should have seen two different puzzles. However, there were other edits outside the code tag as well.

if you and/or other players collate the missing ::: more ::: entries from previous games into one post
then I can manually add them to the corresponding results pages

How do you wish us to designate the applicable game numbers?

I think it's a good idea to have the Results as complete as possible. Along this line, I'd like to see ::: more ::: puzzles accepted from "non-players", as long as they're submitted within the time window. Because of a very late start, I posted ::: more ::: only for a relatively recent game, which was not accepted. However, not being a current player as the reason is only a guess.

[ronk]

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[gsf]

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[g.r.emlin]

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2011-04-21+15:51:00-0000 8.7/8.4/3.8 ronk rare ED not seen before
2011-04-21+15:51:00-0000 8.7/8.6/3.8 gsf rare ED seen once before


[Mauricio]

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[joel64]

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[gsf]

::: comment :::

the referee polls the last page in the thread every 5 min
when the page fills and the thread spills over to a new page the previous last page is cached and not re-polled

For the particular case cited, I don't believe that explains what happened. Well before game 0139 started, I changed from 3 puzzles to 2 puzzles within the code tag. The 1st and 2nd puzzles had been identical so, cached or not, the referee should have seen two different puzzles. However, there were other edits outside the code tag as well.

if you and/or other players collate the missing ::: more ::: entries from previous games into one post
then I can manually add them to the corresponding results pages

How do you wish us to designate the applicable game numbers?

I think it's a good idea to have the Results as complete as possible. Along this line, I'd like to see ::: more ::: puzzles accepted from "non-players", as long as they're submitted within the time window. Because of a very late start, I posted ::: more ::: only for a relatively recent game, which was not accepted. However, not being a current player as the reason is only a guess.

good comments
everyone keep track of the missing entries but don't post
I'll ruminate about how to automate updates to all previous games
it will probably be a pm to the referee, I just have to think about the mechanism under the hood for a bit ...