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[TTHsieh]

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TTHsieh

[TTHsieh]

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current posted ratings : 58

    1.5 - 1.7 - 2.0 - 2.5 - 2.6 - 2.8 - 3.0 - 3.2 - 3.4 - 3.6 -
    3.8 - 4.2 - 4.4 - 4.5 - 4.6 - 5.2 - 5.6 - 6.5 - 6.6 - 6.69-
    6.7 - 6.8 - 6.9 - 7.0 - 7.1 - 7.2 - 7.3 - 7.4 - 7.6 - 7.7 -
    7.8 - 7.9 - 8.0 - 8.2 - 8.3 - 8.4 - 8.5 - 8.6 - 8.8 - 8.9 -
    9.0 - 9.1 - 9.2 - 9.3 - 9.4 - 9.5 - 9.6 - 9.7 - 9.8 - 9.9 -
   10.0 -10.1 -10.2 -10.3 -10.4 -10.5 -10.6 -11.0



• Is this pattern interesting ?
• Is there any more new rating ?

TTHsieh

[m_b_metcalf]

• Is this pattern interesting ?
• Is there more new ratings ?

Well, there was a certain sense of déjà vu.

No more from me

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

[TTHsieh]

I had found other 10 new ratings : 2.3 - 4.0 - 4.7 - 5.0 - 5.7 - 5.8 - 6.2 - 7.5 - 8.1 - 8.7

TTHsieh

[JPF]

• Is this pattern interesting ?
• Is there more new ratings ?

Well, there was a certain sense of déjà vu.

Rignt, after Mike's first 11.4 puzzle, a lot of efforts have been made to study these patterns :

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DUD
UGU
DUD

D Diagonal Box
U One cell Box
G General Box


and we came up with a lot of high 11.0 + puzzles : Easter Monster and many others.

The proposed pattern here has a symmetry type IV (Diagonal and anti-diagonal reflection ) ; it's a nice one,
but as I said before, using SE for the rating of such patterns is awfully long and boring.

I had found other 10 new ratings.

Is the game over ?

JPF

[TTHsieh]

Is the game over ?

JPF, If you agree, I will post all the rest 10 ratings.

TTHsieh

[JPF]

JPF, If you agree, I will post all the rest 10 ratings.

As far as I'm concern, yes.

68 ratings is the record for this game.
Congratulations.

We could probably have found more ratings above 10.0 with much (+) more time.

JPF

[TTHsieh]

100000002030100040005000600070010000000326000000080010008000500090004030200000008 # 2.3
100000002030400050004000300050060000000372000000010080005000700080005040200000001 # 4.0
100000002030400010002000500060010000000352000000070030007000400040008090500000007 # 4.7
100000002030400050006000400070020000000168000000040090008000100040007030200000007 # 5.0
100000002020300040005000100040060000000751000000080030008000700030004090500000008 # 5.7
100000002030400050006000700050030000000827000000010090007000800040005030200000007 # 5.8
100000002020300040005000600070080000000519000000060050006000800090004070800000001 # 6.2
100000002020300040005000600040070000000156000000040080009000100080004030500000006 # 7.5
100000002030400010005000600040030000000726000000050030002000500080001040700000006 # 8.1
100000002030200040005000600040070000000851000000060090009000500020004030600000001 # 8.7

TTHsieh

[TTHsieh]

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final posted ratings : 68

    1.5 - 1.7 - 2.0 - 2.3 - 2.5 - 2.6 - 2.8 - 3.0 - 3.2 - 3.4 -
    3.6 - 3.8 - 4.0 - 4.2 - 4.4 - 4.5 - 4.6 - 4.7 - 5.0 - 5.2 -
    5.6 - 5.7 - 5.8 - 6.2 - 6.5 - 6.6 - 6.69- 6.7 - 6.8 - 6.9 -
    7.0 - 7.1 - 7.2 - 7.3 - 7.4 - 7.5 - 7.6 - 7.7 - 7.8 - 7.9 -
    8.0 - 8.1 - 8.2 - 8.3 - 8.4 - 8.5 - 8.6 - 8.7 - 8.8 - 8.9 -
    9.0 - 9.1 - 9.2 - 9.3 - 9.4 - 9.5 - 9.6 - 9.7 - 9.8 - 9.9 -
   10.0 -10.1 -10.2 -10.3 -10.4 -10.5 -10.6 -11.0



100000002020100030004000500030060000000725000000040010006000400080003090200000006 #01= 1.5 , TThsieh
800000006030500020005000900040020000000369000000040070009000600020004030600000005 #41= 1.7 , m_b_metcalf
100000002020300040003000500060070000000512000000080030005000200030004060900000001 #33= 2.0 , TThsieh
100000002030100040005000600070010000000326000000080010008000500090004030200000008 #59= 2.3 , TThsieh
100000002020300040006000700040060000000172000000090030001000600030004020700000005 #57= 2.5 , gsf
100000002070100030004000500030060000000725000000040010006000400010003090200000006 #08= 2.6 , m_b_metcalf
100000002060100030004000500030060000000925000000040010006000400080003090200000006 #10= 2.8 , m_b_metcalf
700000008030800020009000600090040000000785000000010060008000200060003090500000007 #30= 3.0 , m_b_metcalf
100000002020300040005000600030070000000156000000080090001000500090007020600000008 #31= 3.2 , TThsieh
800000007050400030001000600030020000000518000000090040008000100040005090700000008 #39= 3.4 , m_b_metcalf
100000002030100040005000600040060000000325000000070010006000700080004090200000006 #46= 3.6 , JPF
100000002090500080006000400080040000000926000000010030007000200050008090200000006 #37= 3.8 , m_b_metcalf
100000002030400050004000300050060000000372000000010080005000700080005040200000001 #60= 4.0 , TThsieh
100000002030100040002000500060070000000452000000080090008000600090004010500000008 #50= 4.2 , TThsieh
100000002050100030004000500030060000000725000000040010006000400080003090200000005 #14= 4.4 , m_b_metcalf
100000002020100030004000500030060000000725000000040010006000400070003080200000006 #19= 4.5 , TThsieh
100000002020300040005000600040030000000751000000060080007000500030002090500000001 #58= 4.6 , TThsieh
100000002030400010002000500060010000000352000000070030007000400040008090500000007 #61= 4.7 , TThsieh
100000002030400050006000400070020000000168000000040090008000100040007030200000007 #62= 5.0 , TThsieh
400000003060500010008000400070030000000746000000080050009000800050009060200000004 #43= 5.2 , m_b_metcalf
700000004050100030004000900080040000000792000000060010009000700030008050500000006 #26= 5.6 , m_b_metcalf
100000002020300040005000100040060000000751000000080030008000700030004090500000008 #63= 5.7 , TThsieh
100000002030400050006000700050030000000827000000010090007000800040005030200000007 #64= 5.8 , TThsieh
100000002020300040005000600070080000000519000000060050006000800090004070800000001 #65= 6.2 , TThsieh
100000002030400050004000100050060000000721000000030040006000300040005080200000006 #48= 6.5 , JPF
100000002020100030004000500030040000000651000000070080006000100040002090500000006 #13= 6.6 , TThsieh
100000002020300040005000600040060000000713000000080090008000100030009050600000008 #21= 6.69, TThsieh
100000002020300040005000100030020000000651000000070080007000600080004090500000007 #47= 6.7 , TThsieh
100000002030400050006000700080020000000691000000050040009000200050003080600000009 #38= 6.8 , JPF
100000002020300040005000100060070000000489000000010050001000700040006020700000008 #52= 6.9 , TThsieh
100000002030100040005000600040070000000326000000050010007000200010004080600000007 #51= 7.0 , JPF
100000002020100030004000500060070000000652000000040080005000200080003010900000004 #07= 7.1 , TThsieh
100000002020100030004000500010020000000465000000030070005000600030008020600000004 #03= 7.2 , TThsieh
100000002090100030004000500030060000000725000000040010006000400080003090500000006 #04= 7.3 , m_b_metcalf
100000002020300040005000100040060000000751000000080070001000500070004030800000006 #49= 7.4 , TThsieh
100000002020300040005000600040070000000156000000040080009000100080004030500000006 #66= 7.5 , TThsieh
100000002020300040003000500040060000000172000000080030005000200030004060700000001 #17= 7.6 , TThsieh
100000002020300040005000100040010000000567000000080050001000600090002030600000008 #25= 7.7 , TThsieh
100000002020100030004000500030020000000465000000070080005000600090003010600000004 #23= 7.8 , TThsieh
100000002070400090003000800040030000000517000000020060002000100060009040500000003 #20= 7.9 , m_b_metcalf
500000004010900030002000700080040000000237000000080090007000500030001080200000007 #32= 8.0 , m_b_metcalf
100000002030400010005000600040030000000726000000050030002000500080001040700000006 #67= 8.1 , TThsieh
100000002020300010004000500060070000000485000000060090005000800090002060800000004 #29= 8.2 , TThsieh
100000002020900030004000500090060000000725000000040010006000400080003090200000006 #02= 8.3 , m_b_metcalf
100000002020100030004000500030020000000465000000070010005000600010003070400000008 #15= 8.4 , TThsieh
100000002060500070003000400020060000000138000000040050007000100050002060400000003 #16= 8.5 , m_b_metcalf
100000008030600020005000700090080000000547000000020060007000300060003090800000005 #28= 8.6 , m_b_metcalf
100000002030200040005000600040070000000851000000060090009000500020004030600000001 #68= 8.7 , TThsieh
100000002020300040005000100040010000000567000000040080007000600010004020600000005 #27= 8.8 , TThsieh
100000002020300040005000100040010000000653000000070080007000500080004030900000001 #09= 8.9 , TThsieh
100000002020300010004000500060070000000845000000010090005000400090002030400000008 #05= 9.0 , TThsieh
100000002020300010004000500060070000000285000000040090008000200090001060500000004 #11= 9.1 , TThsieh
100000002080700040005000600040080000000531000000020070003000500070006080200000001 #12= 9.2 , m_b_metcalf
100000002050600080003000700040020000000391000000050060009000100060008050700000003 #18= 9.3 , m_b_metcalf
100000002070800040009000300080050000000731000000020060005000100040006070300000009 #06= 9.4 , m_b_metcalf
700000004050100030004000900080060000000739000000040010006000700030008050200000006 #22= 9.5 , m_b_metcalf
100000008030600020005000700090080000000541000000020060007000400060003090800000005 #24= 9.6 , m_b_metcalf
100000002030400050006000700050030000000812000000040080007000200080009030200000006 #55= 9.7 , JPF
100000002030400050006000700040070000000892000000050080002000900050003040700000006 #36= 9.8 , JPF
100000002030400050006000700080010000000639000000050030007000100050003080200000006 #35= 9.9 , m_b_metcalf
100000002030400050006000700080010000000259000000030040007000100040008030200000006 #44=10.0 , JPF
100000002030400050006000700080010000000639000000050040007000100040003080200000006 #34=10.1 , JPF
100000002030400050006000700080030000000125000000080040007000100090008030200000006 #54=10.2 , TThsieh
100000002030400050006000700080050000000719000000030040002000100090003080700000006 #40=10.3 , JPF
100000002030400050006000700080010000000695000000030040007000100040009030200000006 #42=10.4 , JPF
100000002030400050006000700080030000000198000000070040002000600040005030700000009 #56=10.5 , TThsieh
100000002030400050006000700080030000000957000000020040007000100090008030200000006 #53=10.6 , JPF
100000002030400050006000700080030000000965000000040090007000100050008030200000006 #45=11.0 , TThsieh

TTHsieh

[m_b_metcalf]

I had found other 10 new ratings : 2.3 - 4.0 - 4.7 - 5.0 - 5.7 - 5.8 - 6.2 - 7.5 - 8.1 - 8.7

TTHsieh

Out of curiosity, is your computer a modest PC like mine, or perhaps one of these?

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

[TTHsieh]

...is your computer a modest PC...

Yes.

TTHsieh

[m_b_metcalf]

...is your computer a modest PC...

Yes.

Then well done on your exhaustive searching

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

[TTHsieh]

Then well done on your exhaustive searching

Thanks, Maybe I was just lucky enough.


• Do we take a rest for serval days to think about new rules ?
• Or start a new game under current rules ?

TTHsieh

[m_b_metcalf]

[*]Do we take a rest for serval days to think about new rules ?
[*]Or start a new game under current rules ?

Let's wait until at least Thursday before stating again.

If JPF has new rules planned, maybe they should be introduced as a new thread (this one's getting very long).

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

[gsf]

• Do we take a rest for serval days to think about new rules ?
  

a few comments after gleaning all the posts in this thread

use a unique phrase to start a new game, and don't use it in any other posts
"N-e-w p-a-t-t-e-r-n (#nn)" is a nice recent convetion (-'s inserted to not use the phrase!)

use a unique phrase for the last entrant to post additional puzzles after the game ends
something like "A-d-d-i-t-i-o-n-a-l r-a-t-i-n-g-s" followed by a list of "grid # rating", would be nice

the post times in the forum are rounded/truncated to minutes
how about just ignoring (no penalty) subsequent dup entries with a date within 1 minute of the first entry that is duplicated

this would help game accounting