The New Sudoku Players' Forum

by **TTHsieh** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:09 pm

Code: Select all: current posted ratings : 50 1.5 - 1.7 - 2.0 - 2.3 - 2.5 - 2.6 - 2.8 - 3.0 - 3.2 - 3.4 - 3.6 - 3.8 - 4.2 - 4.4 - 4.5 - 4.6 - 5.2 - 5.6 - 6.2 - 6.6 - 6.69- 6.7 - 6.8 - 6.9 - 7.0 - 7.1 - 7.2 - 7.3 - 7.4 - 7.5 - 7.6 - 7.7 - 7.8 - 7.9 - 8.0 - 8.2 - 8.3 - 8.4 - 8.5 - 8.6 - 8.7 - 8.8 - 8.9 - 9.0 - 9.1 - 9.2 - 9.3 - 9.4 - 9.5 - 9.7

TTHsieh

by **JPF** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:18 pm

Code: Select all: 1 . . | 2 . . | . . 3 . 4 5 | . . . | . 6 . . . . | . . . | . 7 . -------+-------+------- . . . | 8 . 2 | . . 1 . . . | . 6 . | . . . 3 . . | 9 . 4 | . . . -------+-------+------- . 5 . | . . . | . . . . 7 . | . . . | 5 4 . 8 . . | . . 1 | . . 9 ER=9.6

JPF

by **TTHsieh** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:19 pm

Code: Select all: 1 . . | 2 . . | . . 3 . 4 5 | . . . | . 6 . . . . | . . . | . 5 . - - - + - - - + - - - . . . | 3 . 7 | . . 1 . . . | . 8 . | . . . 2 . . | 1 . 9 | . . . - - - + - - - + - - - . 6 . | . . . | . . . . 5 . | . . . | 4 7 . 7 . . | . . 1 | . . 2 ER=9.9

TTHsieh

by **m_b_metcalf** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:08 pm

Code: Select all: 9 . . 2 . . . . 7 . 3 2 . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . 9 . 7 . . 2 . . . . 8 . . . . 2 . . 1 . 5 . . . . 6 . . . . . . . . 8 . . . . 6 3 . 7 . . . . 1 . . 9 SE 5.7

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

by **JPF** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:51 pm

Code: Select all: 1 . . | 2 . . | . . 3 . 4 2 | . . . | . 5 . . . . | . . . | . 6 . -------+-------+------- . . . | 5 . 4 | . . 7 . . . | . 8 . | . . . 2 . . | 9 . 1 | . . . -------+-------+------- . 5 . | . . . | . . . . 8 . | . . . | 9 4 . 3 . . | . . 7 | . . 1 ER=5.0

JPF

by **TTHsieh** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:14 am

Code: Select all: 1 . . | 2 . . | . . 3 . 4 3 | . . . | . 5 . . . . | . . . | . 6 . - - - + - - - + - - - . . . | 7 . 6 | . . 8 . . . | . 5 . | . . . 3 . . | 9 . 4 | . . . - - - + - - - + - - - . 6 . | . . . | . . . . 5 . | . . . | 4 1 . 8 . . | . . 5 | . . 2 ER=6.5

TTHsieh

by **JPF** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:22 am

Code: Select all: 1 . . | 2 . . | . . 3 . 4 2 | . . . | . 5 . . . . | . . . | . 6 . -------+-------+------- . . . | 3 . 6 | . . 7 . . . | . 8 . | . . . 2 . . | 9 . 1 | . . . -------+-------+------- . 6 . | . . . | . . . . 5 . | . . . | 9 8 . 3 . . | . . 7 | . . 1 ER=4.7

JPF

by **TTHsieh** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:24 am

Code: Select all: 1 . . | 2 . . | . . 3 . 3 4 | . . . | . 5 . . . . | . . . | . 6 . - - - + - - - + - - - . . . | 3 . 7 | . . 2 . . . | . 5 . | . . . 8 . . | 1 . 6 | . . . - - - + - - - + - - - . 5 . | . . . | . . . . 8 . | . . . | 4 3 . 2 . . | . . 5 | . . 6 ER=1.2

TTHsieh

by **JPF** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:00 pm

Code: Select all: 1 . . | 2 . . | . . 3 . 4 5 | . . . | . 6 . . . . | . . . | . 4 . -------+-------+------- . . . | 3 . 7 | . . 1 . . . | . 2 . | . . . 2 . . | 1 . 8 | . . . -------+-------+------- . 6 . | . . . | . . . . 7 . | . . . | 4 5 . 9 . . | . . 1 | . . 2 ER=9.8

JPF

by **TTHsieh** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:49 pm

Code: Select all: 1 . . | 2 . . | . . 3 . 4 5 | . . . | . 6 . . . . | . . . | . 4 . - - - + - - - + - - - . . . | 7 . 4 | . . 1 . . . | . 6 . | . . . 2 . . | 5 . 3 | . . . - - - + - - - + - - - . 7 . | . . . | . . . . 6 . | . . . | 5 8 . 3 . . | . . 1 | . . 2 ER=8.1

TTHsieh

by **TTHsieh** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:59 pm

Code: Select all: current posted ratings : 59 1.2 - 1.5 - 1.7 - 2.0 - 2.3 - 2.5 - 2.6 - 2.8 - 3.0 - 3.2 - 3.4 - 3.6 - 3.8 - 4.2 - 4.4 - 4.5 - 4.6 - 4.7 - 5.0 - 5.2 - 5.6 - 5.7 - 6.2 - 6.5 - 6.6 - 6.69- 6.7 - 6.8 - 6.9 - 7.0 - 7.1 - 7.2 - 7.3 - 7.4 - 7.5 - 7.6 - 7.7 - 7.8 - 7.9 - 8.0 - 8.1 - 8.2 - 8.3 - 8.4 - 8.5 - 8.6 - 8.7 - 8.8 - 8.9 - 9.0 - 9.1 - 9.2 - 9.3 - 9.4 - 9.5 - 9.6 - 9.7 - 9.8 - 9.9 current scores: Submitter Puzzles Points Penalty Bonus Total ----------- ------- ------ ------- ----- ----- gsf 2 62 -50 x 3 -88 JPF 11 420 420 m_b_metcalf 17 416 416 TTHsieh 29 872 -20 52+59 963 ----------- ------- ------ ------- ----- ----- 59 1770

59 posted puzzles wrote:
100200003034000050000000060000307002000050000800106000050000000080000430200005006 #57 = 1.2 , TTHsieh
100200003024000050000000060000107008000020000800503000040000000060000240300008001 #05 = 1.5 , m_b_metcalf
100200003024000050000000060000301007000020000700506000060000000040000280300007001 #31 = 1.7 , JPF
100200003024000050000000060000107008000020000800503000040000000060000420300008001 #01 = 2.0 , TTHsieh
100200003024000050000000060000701008000020000800406000050000000040000270600008001 #18 = 2.3 , TTHsieh
100200003042000050000000040000602001000040000200703000080000000050000780300001009 #42 = 2.5 , TTHsieh
800700001065000040000000050000105003000020000700806000090000000020000690300007008 #19 = 2.6 , m_b_metcalf
100200003024000050000000040000301006000020000600507000070000000080000290300006001 #32 = 2.8 , TTHsieh
100200003042000050000000060000502007000040000200801000090000000060000890300007001 #36 = 3.0 , TTHsieh
100200003024000050000000060000701008000020000300906000040000000050000240600008001 #44 = 3.2 , TTHsieh
700200009024000010000000060000107005000020000900503000040000000060000420500009003 #11 = 3.4 , m_b_metcalf
700900006023000010000000030000603008000050000800701000040000000030000420600008007 #47 = 3.6 , m_b_metcalf
100200003042000050000000060000704002000080000200903000060000000070000680300009001 #38 = 3.8 , TTHsieh
100200003024000050000000060000301007000020000700608000090000000040000290300007001 #46 = 4.2 , TTHsieh
100200003024000050000000060000301007000020000700608000050000000090000280300007001 #22 = 4.4 , TTHsieh
100200003024000010000000050000406007000050000500108000080000000050000820300009004 #26 = 4.5 , TTHsieh
100200003024000050000000060000103007000020000400506000080000000090000240600007009 #48 = 4.6 , TTHsieh
100200003042000050000000060000306007000080000200901000060000000050000980300007001 #56 = 4.7 , JPF
100200003042000050000000060000504007000080000200901000050000000080000940300007001 #54 = 5.0 , JPF
900100003024000050000000020000301008000040000800906000030000000050000640100008009 #41 = 5.2 , m_b_metcalf
100200003024000050000000060000107008000020000700903000040000000050000420300008007 #40 = 5.6 , TTHsieh
900200007032000080000000050000907002000080000200105000060000000080000630700001009 #53 = 5.7 , m_b_metcalf
900700001047000060000000050000302009000050000300104000070000000060000470100009003 #45 = 6.2 , m_b_metcalf
100200003043000050000000060000706008000050000300904000060000000050000410800005002 #55 = 6.5 , TTHsieh
100200003024000050000000060000105007000020000300807000040000000060000420700003001 #03 = 6.6 , JPF
100200003024000050000000040000301004000020000600507000070000000050000260800003001 #28 = 6.69, TTHsieh
100200003024000050000000060000301007000020000700604000080000000090000280300007001 #35 = 6.7 , JPF
100200003064000090000000080000306001000050000200704000070000000050000460300001002 #07 = 6.8 , m_b_metcalf
100200005024000060000000090000105008000020000900703000040000000070000240500008001 #37 = 6.9 , m_b_metcalf
100200003034000050000000060000301007000050000800906000050000000070000430600005002 #50 = 7.0 , TTHsieh
700200009024000010000000060000107005000020000800305000040000000060000420500009003 #09 = 7.1 , m_b_metcalf
100200003024000050000000040000106007000020000600803000040000000050000920300007006 #08 = 7.2 , TTHsieh
100200003024000050000000060000103007000020000600805000050000000040000290300007001 #12 = 7.3 , TTHsieh
100200003045000060000000070000508002000060000300901000080000000070000540200003001 #33 = 7.4 , JPF
100200003048000070000000060000405001000080000200603000060000000070000840300001002 #23 = 7.5 , m_b_metcalf
100200003024000050000000060000301007000020000700406000060000000080000240300007001 #30 = 7.6 , TTHsieh
100200003074000080000000050000408002000050000300601000080000000050000470200003001 #21 = 7.7 , m_b_metcalf
100200003024000010000000050000403006000050000500107000070000000050000720300008004 #20 = 7.8 , TTHsieh
100200003045000060000000070000308002000060000200104000050000000070000540300009001 #29 = 7.9 , JPF
100200005027000040000000060000501008000020000800906000090000000040000290500008001 #39 = 8.0 , m_b_metcalf
100200003045000060000000040000704001000060000200503000070000000060000580300001002 #59 = 8.1 , TTHsieh
100200003042000050000000060000102007000030000300405000050000000080000540700003001 #34 = 8.2 , TTHsieh
100900003024000050000000060000107008000020000800503000040000000060000520300008001 #02 = 8.3 , m_b_metcalf
100200003024000050000000060000103007000020000400506000080000000090000240300007009 #16 = 8.4 , TTHsieh
100700008024000050000000020000401003000060000800907000050000000060000240300002001 #17 = 8.5 , m_b_metcalf
100200003068000050000000070000708002000040000300106000070000000050000840200003001 #25 = 8.6 , m_b_metcalf
100200006032000090000000040000502007000040000200801000050000000090000830600007001 #49 = 8.7 , gsf
100200003024000050000000060000103007000020000600508000040000000080000290300007001 #24 = 8.8 , TTHsieh
100200003024000050000000060000107004000020000300809000090000000050000280700003001 #14 = 8.9 , TTHsieh
100200003024000050000000060000102007000050000300806000050000000060000540900003001 #04 = 9.0 , TTHsieh
100200003024000050000000060000103007000050000700608000090000000050000940300007001 #10 = 9.1 , TTHsieh
100200003024000050000000060000107008000020000700903000050000000060000420300008007 #06 = 9.2 , TTHsieh
100300007024000050000000020000401003000060000800903000050000000060000240300008001 #15 = 9.3 , m_b_metcalf
100900003024000050000000060000301008000050000900802000040000000060000420300007001 #13 = 9.4 , gsf
100200003045000060000000070000302008000060000900804000050000000070000540800001002 #27 = 9.5 , JPF
100200003045000060000000070000802001000060000300904000050000000070000540800001009 #51 = 9.6 , JPF
100200003045000060000000070000302001000060000800104000050000000070000450200009008 #43 = 9.7 , JPF
100200003045000060000000040000307001000020000200108000060000000070000450900001002 #58 = 9.8 , JPF
100200003045000060000000050000307001000080000200109000060000000050000470700001002 #52 = 9.9 , TTHsieh

TTHsieh

by **m_b_metcalf** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:02 pm

Well done, again, TTHsieh. For those who like that sort of thing, here are three pearls that I fished on the way:

Code: Select all: 1 . . 2 . . . . 3 . 8 5 . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . 3 . 7 . . 2 . . . . 4 . . . . 6 . . 1 . 9 . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . 5 8 . 3 . . . . 6 . . 1 SE 9.0 Pearl 1 . . 2 . . . . 3 . 9 8 . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . 7 . 4 . . 6 . . . . 5 . . . . 2 . . 8 . 1 . . . . 5 . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . 8 9 . 6 . . . . 3 . . 1 SE 9.1 Pearl 1 . . 2 . . . . 3 . 8 5 . . . . 6 . . . . . . . . 7 . . . . 4 . 3 . . 2 . . . . 6 . . . . 9 . . 1 . 8 . . . . 6 . . . . . . . . 7 . . . . 8 5 . 3 . . . . 9 . . 1 SE 9.2 Pearl

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

by **coloin** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:52 pm

A good game that time...sorry I missed the scheduled time.

Please can we have the exact start time[GMT]for the next game.

Regarding the pattern, I know some people regard symetrical puzzles aesthetically more pleasing, but with a non-symmetrical puzzle you are increasing the number of possible puzzles by at least x4. As we have seen the number of different minimal puzzles of a specific pattern is finite - it might mean we have a few 10+ puzzles.

Dealer's choice of course !

C

by **gsf** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:13 am

TTHsieh wrote:Submitter Puzzles Points Penalty Bonus Total
----------- ------- ------ ------- ----- -----
gsf 2 62 -50-50 -38

this probably goes under the category of don't ask don't tell but I think I get another -50 penalty

Code: Select all: dup-puzzle 9.4 dup-rating 9.3 dup-rating 8.5

by **JPF** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:05 am

coloin wrote:Regarding the pattern, I know some people regard symetrical puzzles aesthetically more pleasing, but with a non-symmetrical puzzle you are increasing the number of possible puzzles by at least x4. As we have seen the number of different minimal puzzles of a specific pattern is finite - it might mean we have a few 10+ puzzles.

Indeed, although we know that using S. Explainer for puzzles with rating 10+ is awfully boring.

coloin and JPF wrote:Dealer's choice of course !

gsf wrote:this probably goes under the category of don't ask don't tell but I think I get another -50 penalty
Code: Select all
dup-puzzle 9.4 dup-rating 9.3 dup-rating 8.5

right

coloin wrote:Please can we have the exact start time[GMT]for the next game.

Indeed, although the game is not over :

rule wrote:The game ends if no puzzle has been posted for 3 days.

I'm still trying to find a 60 th rating... just for the fun,
but I suggest to reduce this period of time to 2 days.

JPF

The New Sudoku Players' Forum

Patterns Game 1.0