Greetings!
I have recently joined this wonderful forum.
I am writing to ask if there exists a computer program that allows the user to save all the moves made when completing a sudoku grid. That output would have at the top the sudoku initial configuration, followed by information like “starting with all candidates provided” ou “starting without candidates provided”, and then all the moves. I know that Hodoku does something like this (without the second part) when the “solution path” is sent to print, but I dont know how to get this when the solution is not the one found by the code (it is the user own solution). Ideally, I would prefer something as standard as it is the input of various well-kwown formats for puzzles to be developed also for the writing of the output (the “game” moves). In summary, the output would be a text file with the input position at the top, the above mentioned information (on/off candidates) followed by the moves.
This text file would allow the user (later) to insert comments to justify certain eliminations made and also add overall comments at the end of the file.
Regards,
jco
Output file in standard format for all moves made
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Re: Output file in standard format for all moves made
by tarek » Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:44 pm
Hi jco,
Sukaku explainer should be able to do that for you using the command line input.
Download the latest release
Check the wiki pages on the github repository as they have enough information to fulfil your task
I’m on my mobile phone on the move so didn’t have time to post the links
Tarek
Sukaku explainer should be able to do that for you using the command line input.
Download the latest release
Check the wiki pages on the github repository as they have enough information to fulfil your task
I’m on my mobile phone on the move so didn’t have time to post the links
Tarek
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Re: Output file in standard format for all moves made
by 1to9only » Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:18 pm
jco wrote:(it is the user own solution)
I think this is meant for the user (in play mode) solution path to be saved to file (for review and print).
I don't know if there is a great demand for this feature. Anyone else apart from OP wanting this feature?
New code to SukakuExplainer will be required!
SukakuExplainer project link: here.
SukakuExplainer download: here.
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Re: Output file in standard format for all moves made
by tarek » Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:57 am
Thanks 1to9only,
I can see the original question better now. Essentially what is desired is an Log of the custom game progress!
tarek
I can see the original question better now. Essentially what is desired is an Log of the custom game progress!
tarek
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Re: Output file in standard format for all moves made
by jco » Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:53 pm
Hello Tarek and 1to9only,
Thank you both for the replies! I had Sukaku explainer installed, but it also seemed to me that such feature wasn't there. It seems natural to have the game (the solution path created by the user) recorded for further analysis and annotations. Otherwise, unless you have very good memory, or the puzzle is very simple, that information is lost.
Regards,
jco
Thank you both for the replies! I had Sukaku explainer installed, but it also seemed to me that such feature wasn't there. It seems natural to have the game (the solution path created by the user) recorded for further analysis and annotations. Otherwise, unless you have very good memory, or the puzzle is very simple, that information is lost.
Regards,
jco
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Re: Output file in standard format for all moves made
by ghfick » Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:58 pm
Philip Beeby's solver allows you to select a set of steps from a list. The solution path then appears in a window beside.
www.philsfolly.net.au
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Re: Output file in standard format for all moves made
by 1to9only » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:35 pm
jco wrote:there exists a computer program that allows the user to save all the moves made when completing a sudoku grid
I've implemented this feature in my version of SukakuExplainer, a later version of the one based on SudokuExplainer here.
You can select 'Save Solution Path...' to save the partial solution path (current state) or complete solution path (solved state) to a file.
Download the jar file (zipped) from [deleted link]- an updated version is available.
It supports:
- the grid (pencilmarks) is shown before each step
- selecting a cell, and typing the number (keyboard entry)
- selecting a cell, and clicking on a candidate (mouse select)
- clicking 'Get all hints', selecting all/some hints, and clicking 'Solve step' (multiple steps)
- clicking 'Get next hint', clicking 'Solve step' (single step)
- undo is also supported
Example saved file:
Hidden Text: Show
[Edit- 7 Sep- deleted old link]
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Re: Output file in standard format for all moves made
by 1to9only » Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:10 pm
I've made an improvement to the 'Save Solution Path...' feature - the (indirect) SE hints now show candidate elimination(s) and any cell placement that are applied.
Some examples:
Download the updated jar file (zipped) from [deleted link]- an updated version is available.
[Edit- 7 Sep- deleted old link]
Some examples:
- Code: Select all
Pointing: Cells R1C4,R3C4: 1 in block and column: -1r5c4
Claiming: Cells R4C7,R4C8,R4C9: 9 in row and block: -9r6c9, -9r6c8
Naked Pair: Cells R7C7,R9C8: 1,2 in block: -12r7c9, -12r7c8
XY-Wing: Cells R5C4,R5C1,R3C4 on value 1: -1r3c1
Turbot Fish: R2C3.1 off: -1r2c3
Forcing Chain: R1C4.5 on: -1r1c4: r1c4=5
XY-Wing: Cells R6C9,R4C7,R1C9 on value 9: -9r3c7
Download the updated jar file (zipped) from [deleted link]- an updated version is available.
[Edit- 7 Sep- deleted old link]
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Re: Output file in standard format for all moves made
by Pupp » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:26 am
I didn't want to start a new thread, but I downloaded a .txt file, and was wondering what format the puzzles were in, and what extension I could rename the file extension to.
#Tarek's Pearly6000
2.......1.4.7...3...9...5...6.58.......364.......72.8.5.....2...7...3.4...1.....9
5.......1.9.4...8...7...2...8.9.........26...3..8.4.6.2.....5...6...3.9...1.....7
7.......5.8.6...2...9...4...3.1........835......2.4.1.4.....7...6...2.8...5.....9
4.......7.6.3...2...8...5...2..38......641......92..1.5.....4...1...9.6...7.....8
9.......3.8...2.5...1...4...7.264.......9.........8.7...4...1...2.5...8.3.8.....9
7.......2.3.1...4...5...9..48.6.........73......8.1.6.9.....7...1...6.3...2.....5
6.......9.5.7...1...4...8...3.1.7......2........3.8.2.8.....6...7...1.5...9.....4
#Tarek's Pearly6000
2.......1.4.7...3...9...5...6.58.......364.......72.8.5.....2...7...3.4...1.....9
5.......1.9.4...8...7...2...8.9.........26...3..8.4.6.2.....5...6...3.9...1.....7
7.......5.8.6...2...9...4...3.1........835......2.4.1.4.....7...6...2.8...5.....9
4.......7.6.3...2...8...5...2..38......641......92..1.5.....4...1...9.6...7.....8
9.......3.8...2.5...1...4...7.264.......9.........8.7...4...1...2.5...8.3.8.....9
7.......2.3.1...4...5...9..48.6.........73......8.1.6.9.....7...1...6.3...2.....5
6.......9.5.7...1...4...8...3.1.7......2........3.8.2.8.....6...7...1.5...9.....4
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Re: Output file in standard format for all moves made
by denis_berthier » Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:48 am
CSP-Rules (https://github.com/denis-berthier/CSP-Rules-V2.1)allows you to choose which rules you activate and then it outputs exactly what you're asking for.
Example:
Example:
Hidden Text: Show
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Re: Output file in standard format for all moves made
by denis_berthier » Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:50 am
Pupp wrote:I didn't want to start a new thread, but I downloaded a .txt file, and was wondering what format the puzzles were in, and what extension I could rename the file extension to.
#Tarek's Pearly6000
2.......1.4.7...3...9...5...6.58.......364.......72.8.5.....2...7...3.4...1.....9
5.......1.9.4...8...7...2...8.9.........26...3..8.4.6.2.....5...6...3.9...1.....7
7.......5.8.6...2...9...4...3.1........835......2.4.1.4.....7...6...2.8...5.....9
4.......7.6.3...2...8...5...2..38......641......92..1.5.....4...1...9.6...7.....8
9.......3.8...2.5...1...4...7.264.......9.........8.7...4...1...2.5...8.3.8.....9
7.......2.3.1...4...5...9..48.6.........73......8.1.6.9.....7...1...6.3...2.....5
6.......9.5.7...1...4...8...3.1.7......2........3.8.2.8.....6...7...1.5...9.....4
This is the standard line format (one puzzle per line). It can be put in a .txt file
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Re: Output file in standard format for all moves made
by 1to9only » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:53 am
Pupp wrote:I didn't want to start a new thread
Thread hijacking! When you had already asked a question in http://forum.enjoysudoku.com/tarek-s-pearly6000-t5615.html:
Pupp wrote:What format is the file? What should I rename the extension?
I didnot answer this question because you didnot say what you yourself had done, and you wanted someone else to download the file, unzip it, look at it, and tell you the format of the puzzles in the file.
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Re: Output file in standard format for all moves made
by jco » Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:39 am
Hello, 1to9only
I've just read your post. For me that is an excellent news!
I didn't expect this and for this reason didn't come back to look at this thread.
Many thanks for adding this feature! I wish I had looked here much sooner!
IMHO is a very important feature (an extreme instance here). I will certainly make very good use of it!
Again, many thanks!
Regards,
jco
PS: I probably need to configure to receive notifications. (added: done)
[Edited to add example with link, and later again for more precise wording]
1to9only wrote:jco wrote:there exists a computer program that allows the user to save all the moves made when completing a sudoku grid
I've implemented this feature in my version of SukakuExplainer, a later version of the one based on SudokuExplainer (...)
I've just read your post. For me that is an excellent news!
I didn't expect this and for this reason didn't come back to look at this thread.
Many thanks for adding this feature! I wish I had looked here much sooner!
IMHO is a very important feature (an extreme instance here). I will certainly make very good use of it!
Again, many thanks!
Regards,
jco
PS: I probably need to configure to receive notifications. (added: done)
[Edited to add example with link, and later again for more precise wording]
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Re: Output file in standard format for all moves made
by jco » Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:03 am
Hello, 1to9only
Very nice! : )
Amazing that I wasn't aware of any of this. I can't thank you enough!
Regards,
jco.
[Added: PS: ok, subscribed to this topic]
1to9only wrote:I've made an improvement to the 'Save Solution Path...' feature - the (indirect) SE hints now show candidate elimination(s) and any cell placement that are applied (...)
Very nice! : )
Amazing that I wasn't aware of any of this. I can't thank you enough!
Regards,
jco.
[Added: PS: ok, subscribed to this topic]
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Re: Output file in standard format for all moves made
by jco » Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:23 pm
Hello 1to9only,
I have tried for the first time the new features. Again, I am very sorry to doing this only now (for the reasons explained in my last post on this topic).
First I solved today's #4953 hard puzzle from The Guardian, without using pencil marks, and wrote (by hand in a .txt file) every move while it was made, adding some pertinent comment for each move. The final listing is hidden in the following.:
I must add that I made three typos when recording the moves. But even if no mistake was made, it is no fun to write each move while solving a puzzle.
Then, I solved the same puzzle again using SE to make the moves (i.e., using the code but not the solver, of course). The output in hidden mode follows (I erased the boards with remaining candidates written for each move because you have already shown that feature in your last post here).
This is exactly what I needed! I can get all moves without mistakes and quickly
add comments for every move to get the same result shown before. The idea is that
for simple puzzles one may not even bother to comment the recorded resolution, while for an very interesting puzzle where many subtle ideas came along, one may want to revisit the moves, and add comments to save it for further studies. Also, sometimes, it can happen that a manual solver solves the puzzle but, after looking again at the recorded resolution, realizes that *incorrectly* placed a digit that happened the be the correct one. So, it was an unintentional guess, and the player may want to come back to that position and see how to proceed. The player might have missed the difficult/interesting part of the puzzle with that unintentional lucky guess.
Again, many thanks!
jco
[Edit: small correction]
I have tried for the first time the new features. Again, I am very sorry to doing this only now (for the reasons explained in my last post on this topic).
First I solved today's #4953 hard puzzle from The Guardian, without using pencil marks, and wrote (by hand in a .txt file) every move while it was made, adding some pertinent comment for each move. The final listing is hidden in the following.:
Hidden Text: Show
I must add that I made three typos when recording the moves. But even if no mistake was made, it is no fun to write each move while solving a puzzle.
Then, I solved the same puzzle again using SE to make the moves (i.e., using the code but not the solver, of course). The output in hidden mode follows (I erased the boards with remaining candidates written for each move because you have already shown that feature in your last post here).
Hidden Text: Show
This is exactly what I needed! I can get all moves without mistakes and quickly
add comments for every move to get the same result shown before. The idea is that
for simple puzzles one may not even bother to comment the recorded resolution, while for an very interesting puzzle where many subtle ideas came along, one may want to revisit the moves, and add comments to save it for further studies. Also, sometimes, it can happen that a manual solver solves the puzzle but, after looking again at the recorded resolution, realizes that *incorrectly* placed a digit that happened the be the correct one. So, it was an unintentional guess, and the player may want to come back to that position and see how to proceed. The player might have missed the difficult/interesting part of the puzzle with that unintentional lucky guess.
Again, many thanks!
jco
[Edit: small correction]
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