## 2 puzzles i need help with please...

Post the puzzle or solving technique that's causing you trouble and someone will help

### 2 puzzles i need help with please...

Hello there!

This one should be hard:

4xx|xx9|6xx
xx8|5xx|xxx
xxx|xx3|xx8
---+---+---
76x|xxx|x4x
x35|x2x|xx7
x.9x|7xx|xxx
---+---+---
x7x|x3x|58x
3xx|x6x|2xx
xx1|xxx|6xx

this very hard:

x81|x67|x24
2xx|94x|xxx
xxx|xxx|17x
---+---+---
x7x|429|xxx
6xx|1xx|xxx
xxx|xxx|71x
---+---+---
5xx|xxx|xxx
xxx|xx6|xx2
x23|xxx|x8x

Hope you can help me

Sincerly
Yours Nokel
Nokel

Posts: 7
Joined: 27 September 2006

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` *-----------* |4..|..9|6..| |..8|5..|...| |...|..3|..8| |---+---+---| |76.|...|.4.| |.35|.2.|..7| |.9.|7..|...| |---+---+---| |.7.|.3.|58.| |3..|.6.|2..| |..1|...|...| *-----------*`

The first puzzle, above, has multiple solutions, so it is invalid.

The second puzzle, below, can be solved with nothing more than singles and a few exclusions based on line-box interactions.
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` *-----------* |.81|.67|.24| |2..|94.|...| |...|...|17.| |---+---+---| |.7.|429|...| |6..|1..|...| |...|...|71.| |---+---+---| |5..|...|...| |...|..6|..2| |.23|...|.8.| *-----------*`

For example.. there is only one place in box 2 (the center top box) for a 1. Likewise only one place in box 4 for a 1. There is only one place a 2 can go in box 6. The 4 in box 6 must be in row 5, so all other 4s can be excluded from row 5. Etc. Etc.
Sped

Posts: 126
Joined: 26 March 2006

Ahh, oh, ok

Sorry, i thought someone can give me the right numbers for the puzzles.
Nokel

Posts: 7
Joined: 27 September 2006

Here is a solution to your first puzzle:

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`453  879  612618  542  739927  613  458762  398  145135  426  897894  751  326276  934  581389  165  274541  287  963`

Here is a different one

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`453  879  612618  542  739927  613  458762  391  845835  426  197194  758  326276  934  581389  165  274541  287  963`

If you explain why you (or anybody) wants to see these solutions, I will provide the others.

Mac
QBasicMac

Posts: 441
Joined: 13 July 2005

Here is the solution for the 2nd puzzle:

381|567|924
267|941|538
954|832|176
---+---+---
175|429|863
639|178|245
842|653|719
---+---+---
516|284|397
798|316|452
423|795|681

Copy and paste the tiny text to Notepad to view...
udosuk

Posts: 2698
Joined: 17 July 2005

Thanks for the help, and sorry to say, but i made mistakes in the first puzzle:

It should look like this...

4xx|x96|xxx
xx8|5xx|xxx
xxx|xx3|xx8
---+---+---
76x|xxx|x4x
x35|x2x|xx7
x9x|7xx|xxx
---+---+---
x7x|x3x|58x
3xx|x6x|2xx
xx1|xxx|6xx

Perhaps, if you are not too mad at me, you can give me the correct solution again

Nokel

Posts: 7
Joined: 27 September 2006

Hey Mac, i need the solutions for a small competition (hope thats the correct word).
Nokel

Posts: 7
Joined: 27 September 2006

Your puzzle is now a valid single solution 25 clue minimal non symmetric vanilla sudoku

You can solve it in 11 steps using singles only.

good luck with the competition.

tarek

tarek

Posts: 2917
Joined: 05 January 2006

ok, i am working on it right now, hard to understand, what you have written...

The finish time for the solution is in 1 h, then its too late, i hope i can make it...
Nokel

Posts: 7
Joined: 27 September 2006

what do you mean with using singles only please?
Nokel

Posts: 7
Joined: 27 September 2006

Unique solution for the 1st:

453|896|712
918|572|463
627|143|958
---+---+---
762|319|845
835|624|197
194|758|326
---+---+---
276|931|584
389|465|271
541|287|639

You should visit more the other subforums on this site if you want to learn the techniques... Such as the "General/puzzle" & "Advanced solving techniques"...
udosuk

Posts: 2698
Joined: 17 July 2005

thanks very much

i will visit the other forums, as you suggested.

Yours
Nokel
Nokel

Posts: 7
Joined: 27 September 2006

udosuk wrote:Unique solution for the 1st:

Hey, I'm in a contest. I have to list the planets in order from the sun. Please help me cheat by providing the answer so I can beat out the stupid nerds that do there own work. TIA

Mac
QBasicMac

Posts: 441
Joined: 13 July 2005

QBasicMac wrote:Hey, I'm in a contest. I have to list the planets in order from the sun. Please help me cheat by providing the answer so I can beat out the stupid nerds that do there own work. TIA

Mac, sorry can't help you there... Your question doesn't have a unique answer (the double dwarf planets Pluto & Charon keep changing their distances from the Sun so the order is not fixed)... I only help people cheat on questions/puzzles/tests/exams with unique answers/solutions... You're on your own against those stupid nerds there...
udosuk

Posts: 2698
Joined: 17 July 2005

udosuk wrote:Pluto & Charon keep changing their distances from the Sun

LOL - and it's even worse. The Ph.D.'s have decided Pluto isn't a planet any more.

Mac
QBasicMac

Posts: 441
Joined: 13 July 2005

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