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by **udosuk** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:28 pm

uuklzzluptqlfusuthxz rqqgm

The information above is dangerous, controversial and (arguably) illegal. Why?

by **udosuk** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:32 pm

Additional hint 1: It is (remotely) related to Barbra Streisand.

Additional hint 2: 'a' is the 1st letter of the alphabet, 'b' is the 2nd, ...

by **MCC** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:47 am

I had thought it was a substitution code but need time to think about it.

MCC

by **udosuk** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:41 am

MCC wrote:I had thought it was a substitution code but need time to think about it.

You're on the right track.

Additional hint 3: Had David no vowels, Ray

Additional hint 4: sudoku=283879479

by **underquark** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:55 am

udosuk wrote:Additional hint 3: Had David no vowels, Ray

HD DVD = BluRay. A de-encryption algorithm key?

by **udosuk** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:28 pm

Once again I'm giving out too much with my hints.

Actually, HD DVD & BluRay are 2 different things.

Additional hint 5:

Additional hint(s) 6:

udosuk = 303762485

underquark = 164135606940110

Sudoku X = 206948140215

DG Killer = 1203103484388

HD DVD = 116920534

BluRay = 35501623

G W Bush = 73552552478

Australia = 509754515788

by **MCC** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:50 am

Are hints 4 & 6 related to bar code numbers :?:

Hint 5 I believe is related to DNA - the gene code.

MCC

by **udosuk** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:34 pm

MCC wrote:Are hints 4 & 6 related to bar code numbers

As far as I'm aware, no.

MCC wrote:Hint 5 I believe is related to DNA - the gene code.

Definitely not.

Additional hint 7: If I express the piece of information in another format, there's a chance we may not see this whole thread again. (I hope it never comes to that.)

Additional hint 8: The format of this piece of information is somehow related to a perfect game in baseball.

I wrote:Once again I'm giving out too much with my hints.

That was a way for me to say that underquark has (almost) got it, though not in the manner I intended. (Which was my own fault though.)

To fully solve the riddle, the solver needs to:

correctly name the piece of information, and include the wikipedia article if possible
explain the format of this information
explain how each hint is relevant (e.g. Streisand, the pic)

by **Bigtone53** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:41 pm

The format of this piece of information is somehow related to a perfect game in baseball.

There appears to be a hierarchy of perfect games but I guess the realistic one is no hitter getting to first base.

http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/question199.htm

Base, numbers - hmmm

27 hitters out = 26 letters and a space.

by **udosuk** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:18 pm

The site Bigtone53 quoted wrote:Sixteen major league perfect games have been pitched in the entire history of baseball:
Lee Richmond, Worchester vs. Cleveland, 1880
Monte Ward, Providence vs. Boston, 1880
Cy Young, Boston vs. Philadelphia, 1904
Addie Joss, Cleveland vs. Chicago, 1908
Charlie Robertson, Chicago vs. Detroit, 1922
Don Larsen, New York vs. Brooklyn, 1956
Jim Bunning, Philadelphia vs. New York, 1964
Sandy Koufax, Los Angeles vs. Chicago, 1965
Catfish Hunter, Oakland vs. Minnesota, 1968
Len Barker, Cleveland vs. Toronto, 1981
Mike Witt, California vs. Texas, 1984
Tom Browning, Cinncinati. vs Los Angeles,1988
Dennis Martinez, Montreal vs. Los Angeles, 1991
Kenny Rogers, Texas vs. California, 1994
David Wells, New York vs. Minnesota, 1998
David Cone, New York vs. Montreal, 1999
Randy Johnson, Arizona Diamondbacks vs. Braves, 2004

It's hard to earn a reputation as a useful information website when one can't even count black dots accurately.

by **udosuk** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:53 pm

Final additional hint:

Here is the same information in another format, related to the baseball players Rod Carew and Kei Igawa:

cryznxbewlrocdocfnmagqcvhs

I particularly like this one, because it can be broken into bits and pieces all with some meanings. This is extremely rare among other formats, such as:

MKUISteZFNkNbVhsBAVYsQ

which is related to poker, and:

9*H42dNJZMzX1LiLZLeZ0

which is related to the I Ching (aka the Book of Changes).

:idea:

by **Bigtone53** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:27 am

Additional hint 4: sudoku=283879479

and bigtone is 908106206

by **udosuk** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:54 pm

underquark wrote:HD DVD = BluRay. A de-encryption algorithm key?

Bigtone53 wrote:Base, numbers - hmmm
27 hitters out = 26 letters and a space.
...and bigtone is 908106206

Actually, these guys together almost got it. But nobody has done these 2 things I listed:

I wrote:
correctly name the piece of information, and include the wikipedia article if possible
explain how each hint is relevant (e.g. Streisand, the pic)

I suppose doing base conversions on a 38-digit decimal-base integer can pose as a difficulty for some... :?:

by **udosuk** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:44 am

Time for closure.

I wrote:To fully solve the riddle, the solver needs to:
correctly name the piece of information, and include the wikipedia article if possible
explain the format of this information
explain how each hint is relevant (e.g. Streisand, the pic)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AACS_encryption_key_controversy

I wrote:uuklzzluptqlfusuthxz rqqgm

It is a base-27 representation of that particular key, with space=0, a=1, b=2, ..., z=26 as the "digits".

I wrote:Additional hint 1: It is (remotely) related to Barbra Streisand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

I wrote:Additional hint 2: 'a' is the 1st letter of the alphabet, 'b' is the 2nd, ...

See above.

I wrote:Additional hint 3: Had David no vowels, Ray

HD DVDs & Blu-Ray Discs are the main topic here.

I wrote:Additional hint 4: sudoku=283879479

An example of a base-27 to decimal base conversion.

I wrote:Additional hint 5:
http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/1938/fsfvv8.png

It's a version of the Free Speech Flag.

I wrote:Additional hint(s) 6: ...

More examples of base-27 to decimal base conversions. Note that all letters are case-insensitive.

I wrote:Additional hint 7: If I express the piece of information in another format, there's a chance we may not see this whole thread again. (I hope it never comes to that.)

Check the AACS wikipedia link above. On hindsight I don't think it's that likely a scenario.

I wrote:Additional hint 8: The format of this piece of information is somehow related to a perfect game in baseball.

As Bigtone pointed out, a perfect game involves the number 27. Also, baseball is a hint to the word "base".

I wrote:Final additional hint:

Here is the same information in another format, related to the baseball players Rod Carew and Kei Igawa:
cryznxbewlrocdocfnmagqcvhs

I particularly like this one, because it can be broken into bits and pieces all with some meanings. This is extremely rare among other formats, such as:
MKUISteZFNkNbVhsBAVYsQ

which is related to poker, and:
9*H42dNJZMzX1LiLZLeZ0

which is related to the I Ching (aka the Book of Changes).

They're base-29, base-52 & base-64 representations respectively.
(#29 is the jersey number of Carew & Igawa, in poker a deck has 52 cards, and I Ching is the study of the 64 hexagrams.)

In the base-29 representation again a=1, b=2, ..., z=26. Amazingly the "digits" 0, 27 & 28 don't appear here, and all the letters form groups of meaningful jargons.

In the base-52 representation A=0, B=1, ..., Z=25, a=26, b=27, ..., z=51.

In the base-64 representation 0=0, 1=1, ..., 9=9, A=10, B=11, ..., Z=35, a=36, b=37, ..., z=61, *=62, #=63 (all the symbols from your mobile phone keypad).

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